WASHINGTON — An Alabama Supreme Court decision recognizing the unborn as persons deserving of legal protections could have significant implications in ending abortion in the U.S., say pro-life advocates.
“The Alabama Supreme Court has dealt a massive blow to the constitutional fraud of Roe v. Wade by recognizing that the preborn child is a person,” said Personhood USA legal analyst Gualberto Garcia Jones in a statement.
On Jan. 11, the Alabama high court ruled that unborn children are protected by the state’s chemical-endangerment law.
The case involved two women who placed their unborn children at risk through the use of illegal drugs during pregnancy. One of the women acknowledged that she had smoked meth three days before her son was born prematurely. The child died 19 minutes later of “acute methamphetamine intoxication.”
Under Alabama law, it is a crime to chemically endanger a child by exposing him or her to a controlled substance. The women’s attorneys argued that the chemical-endangerment law does not apply to unborn children.
However, the court disagreed, observing that “the only major area in which unborn children are denied legal protection is abortion, and that denial is only because of the dictates of Roe.”
The court noted that 40 states and the District of Columbia “permit recovery of damages for the wrongful death of an unborn child when post-viability injuries to that child cause its death before birth.”
The ruling cited a South Carolina case in which a court arrived at a similar ruling, determining that “it would be absurd to recognize the viable fetus as a person for purposes of homicide laws and wrongful death statutes but not for purposes of statutes proscribing child abuse.”
It also agreed with the appeals court that pointed out, “Not only have the courts of this state interpreted the term ‘child’ to include a viable fetus in other contexts, the dictionary definition of the term ‘child’ explicitly includes an unborn person or a fetus.”
Legal Consistency
The Supreme Court emphasized that in upholding legal protection for the unborn it was being consistent “with the widespread legal recognition that unborn children are persons with rights that should be protected by law.”
It also noted that its decision is in keeping with the state Constitution’s Declaration of Rights, which proclaims that “all men are equally free and independent; that they are endowed by their Creator with certain inalienable rights; that among these are life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.”
Alabama Attorney General Luther Strange applauded the decision.
“The court has ratified our argument that the public policy of our state is to protect life, both born and unborn,” he said in a statement. “It is a tremendous victory that the Alabama Supreme Court has affirmed the value of all life, including those of unborn children whose lives are among the most vulnerable of all.”
While the Jan. 11 ruling does not directly apply to abortion regulations, pro-life advocates are encouraged by the decision, saying that it could contribute to the growing recognition of the unborn as human persons with legal rights.
“In personal injury, criminal and wills and estate law, the trend has been to recognize the unborn child as a human with legal protections, not merely a ‘potential’ human being,” said Mathew Staver, chairman of Liberty Counsel, a nonprofit litigation and policy organization that filed a brief in the case.
He asserted: “The U.S. Supreme Court’s abortion cases are an aberration to law and stand on an island by themselves, and that island will one day disappear.”
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Hallelujah!! Makes no sense that citizen’s are liable for damage to an unborn child when they cause damage to the unborn child that leads to death, but a mother who knowingly destroys the fetus (person) is exonerated from any liability. Wasnt the arguement for Roe v wade that women were dying because of illegal abortions being perfomred poorly? that number of abortions was in the 1000’s and was to be rare. Today we have over 300,000 abortions a year - it is a right for them to kill a baby and we have created a culture that does not value life, consider its responsibilities to its self and its community and endulges in self gratification even if it means killing a life. I feel the Experiment has failed.
The ruling is most encouraging. Perhaps it will inspire others to stnd tall.
It has been said that “the South will rise again”! Bless Alabama for their courage and convictions!
This is good news! No doubt the liberals will try to take it to a higher court at some point. This has been an argument for a number of years, this duality perpetrated that somehow, it was okay to abort a child, but if the child was murdered by other means, that was against the law. The issue would always get swung back around to “women’s rights”. Maybe this time we’ll succeed. The next, giant hurdle in “prolife” will be this new trend towards assisted suicide and euthansia. Keep the faith that we can get it off the books too!
This is a banner day! Joseph said there are over 300,000 abortions [in the U.S] every year. I’d like to post a correction, the number is closer to 1.3 million abortions a year.
Even a fifth grader knows there’s a baby in there.
Oh the die-hard feminists and pro abortion forces must be having a conniption fits…...this makes me VERY HAPPY!
Wow! Truth at last! Wouldn’t it be great if women once again became thankful for the gift of life and being a Mom! Holy Mary Mother of God pray for us!
This is good news. But I think yet another year will pass with the conservative dominated Supreme Court ducking the issue of abortion.
Thanks be to God! Most Sacred Heart of Jesus, have mercy on us! Immaculate Heart of Mary, pray for us! St. Michael the Archangel, protect us in battle…Amen!
Posted by Dr. Mark on Wednesday, Jan 16, 2013 10:36 AM (EDT):It has been said that “the South will rise again”! Bless Alabama for their courage and convictions!”
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I’m glad to hear it, too. Sometimes having had recent bad history with human rights can lead us to see things more clearly.
How is it for hundreds of years abortion was considered illegal therefore a crime but in our so-called enlightened age all of a sudden it`s okay? Everyone that is pro-choice…a word I hate should view the PBS video “life`s Greatest Miracle” and many would change their minds right quick. Please pass that word and place copies of this 60 minute in the vestibule of our churches.
Praise God
The Chief Justice of the Alabama Supreme Court is Judge Roy Moore. The same judge that the Federal Government tried and convicted for saying he would ALWAYS acknowledge God in the court room. He was thrown off the high court, but won his old seat back this past November. God bless the Alabama Supreme Court, led by the the honorable Judge Roy Moore.
This is WONDERFUL NEWS. God is Great. You can bet that the anti-Christ ACLU and Obama are going to push back. BUT we Catholics need to stand tall and tough and push back even harder at anti-Christ. I hope that the US Bishops will rise up and say “Enough” and lead the Faithful to oppose this holocaust of children.
Thank God for listening to all our prayers and hurting hearts,because when one member suffers we all suffer.
When Personhood begins?
This 11 January 2013 Alabama Supreme Court decision is particularly timely given the upcoming 40th anniversary of the US Supreme Court 22 January 1973 Roe v. Wade decision, and the upcoming annual March for Life on 25 January 2013.
Of course, the Alabama Supreme Court decision does not change federal abortion law regarding the lack of personhood for the fetus. Reviewing Roe v. Wade there is this dicta comment by the author of the majority opinion, Justice Harry Blackmun:
“The appellee and certain amici argue that the fetus is a “person” within the language and meaning of the Fourteenth Amendment. In support of this, they outline at length and in detail the well-known facts of fetal development. If this suggestion of personhood is established, the appellant’s case, of course, collapses, for the fetus’ right to life would then be guaranteed specifically by the {Fourteenth} Amendment.… The Constitution does not define “person” in so many words.… the use of the word is such that it has application only postnatally. None indicates, with any assurance, that it has any possible pre-natal application.”
“Texas urges that, apart from the Fourteenth Amendment, life begins at conception and is present throughout pregnancy, and that, therefore, the State has a compelling interest in protecting that life from and after conception. We need not resolve the difficult question of when life begins.
“When those trained in the respective disciplines of medicine, philosophy, and theology are unable to arrive at any consensus, the judiciary, at this point in the development of [*75] man’s knowledge, is not in a position to speculate as to the answer.
“... wide divergence of thinking on this most sensitive and difficult question. There has always been strong support for the view that life does not begin until live birth. This was the belief of the Stoics. n56 It appears to be the predominant, though not the unanimous, attitude of the Jewish faith. n57 It may be taken to represent also the position of a large segment of the Protestant community, insofar as that can be ascertained; organized groups that have taken a formal position on the abortion issue have generally regarded abortion as a matter for the conscience of the individual and her family. n58 As we have noted, the common law found greater significance in quickening. Physicians and their scientific colleagues have regarded that event with less interest and have tended to focus either upon conception, upon live birth, or upon the interim point at which the fetus becomes “viable,” that is, potentially able to live outside the mother’s womb, albeit with artificial aid. n59 Viability is usually placed at about seven months (28 weeks) but may occur earlier, [*76] even at 24 weeks. n60 The Aristotelian theory of “mediate animation,” that held sway throughout the Middle Ages and the Renaissance in Europe, continued to be official Roman Catholic dogma until the 19th century, despite opposition to this “ensoulment” theory from those in the Church who would recognize the existence of life from the moment of conception. n61 The latter is now, of course, the official belief of the Catholic Church. ...
“As one brief amicus discloses, this is a view strongly held by many non-Catholics as well, and by many physicians. Substantial problems for precise definition of this view are posed, however, by new embryological data that purport to indicate that conception is a “process” over time, rather than an event, and by new medical techniques such as menstrual extraction, the “morning-after” pill, implantation of embryos, artificial insemination, and even artificial wombs. n62
“… In areas other than criminal abortion, the law has been reluctant to endorse any theory that life, as we recognize it, begins before live birth or to accord legal rights to the unborn except in narrowly defined situations and except when the rights are contingent upon live birth. … In short, the unborn have never been recognized in the law as persons in the whole sense.”
We can glimpse the importance of this “dangerous” personhood issue in following this link to Planned Parenthood’s analysis of this danger to their position: http://www.plannedparenthoodaction.org/elections-politics/press-releases/fact-sheet-mitt-romney-supports-dangerous-personhood-amendments-1155.htm
I recommend an excellent article by the philosopher Peter Kreeft “Human Personhood Begins at Conception.” Here is the link: http://www.peterkreeft.com/topics-more/personhood.htm
The philosopher John F. Crosby also addresses this question of the beginning of a person in The Selfhood of the Human Person in Chapter Four, Subjectivity and Substantiality, 6. Consequences for the question of the beginning and ending of personal selfhood in each human being, pages 140-144.
For 40 years after this 1973 decision in Roe v. Wade, there have been additional US Supreme Court decisions on abortion which perhaps Personalist philosophy can address. Let us pray that the US Supreme Court will accept a case on abortion in which at least five of nine Supreme Court justices will accord the unborn the right to life.
50 million abortions, and counting, show the importance of this task.
Prayers of Thanksgiving today and always for God’s Grace! JMJ+
God Bless Alabama!
Welcome and wonderful decision! Judge Moore is to be congratulated! Does this mean that if the members of the U.S. Supreme Court had just consulted the dictionary before issuing the Roe v Wade decision, the lives of millions of innocent chidren might have been saved? Hard to believe how slippery the legal line is between life and death.
God will surely bless and richly reward Judge Roy Moore. When can we expect the Supreme Court to restore the protections of the Declaration of Independence and again trust in the God our Founding Fathers trusted. If the court rules against God’s stipulation that marriage must be between one man and one woman, America will have strike two towards ultimate destruction. Having a socialist president may well prove to be strike three and deservedly out. God can’t bless America anymore. We must all devoutly pray and do penance for His mercy.
praise God. maybe people will return back to our heavenly Father. God bless Alabama for leading the way.I am 64 and I pray every day that I might see an end to abortion in my lifetime.
God bless America, Alabama in particular! Oh my God, I was so happy to read about this ruling. Finally it seems as if America’s legal system is actually making basic logical sense. It was a great sense of relief to read this news.
Great news! Pray that it makes a major change in our legal thinking.
At a time when so many of our rights are being taken away, it is wonderful to know that Alabama is protecting the most innocent. Hallelujah!
The Unborn Speaks from the moment of Conception! Contraception Abortion is Murder in the Womb!
Great News! Thank God!, let’s keep on praying!!! God bless Alabama!!!
Congratulations from Scotland. This is a great decision - the recognition of the court that the child in the womb is a human being. God bless America.
Sing my Song at Rally’s:
“ALL WE ARE ASKING…......LET THE CHILD LIVE”
Wave your hands or clap!!!
God Be praised now and forever! I hope other States will follow Alabama’s example. This could be the beggining of the end of abortion. Our Lady of Guadalupe Patroness of the Unborn as proclaimed by Bl. John Paul ll, Ora Pro Nobis!
Thank God we have Protestants in Alabama willing to stand up for what is right instead of Catholics in NY like Cuomo and Dolan.
How many Catholics voted for Obama, who said in a botched abortion where the baby is still living, he would let it die.
Touche Gene! But don’t forget about that little old nun and her little media outlet. Thank you EWTN for your work and your prayers! God bless America! . Keep praying for the rest of us especially NYC and my sweet home Chicago
Must be the faithful prayers of Mother Angelica and her nuns!!
The unborn child is nothing more than a person on life support until it is able to support itself (after birth) just the same as an older persons on life support until he or she is able to support their self.
Gene, Gene, Gene,
Why would you slander Cardinal Donan? I am extatic about Alabama’s ruling but I’m sorry you lump the cardinal in with someone like Cuomo.
Which of the 40,000 + protestant faith communities do you belong?
When you personalize life in the womb to the skeptic, the answer becomes inescapable. ... Simply ask: Were YOU once a child in the womb? ... The respondant must answer in the affirmative. ... If he or she does not, then they can be ridiculed (were you a frog or a duck?). ... Once they admit to formerly being a child in the womb THEMSELVES, then the moral question comes: Why are you so priviledged to live while you deny that same right to others? ... Simple arguments - personalized (NOT theorized) to the skeptic.
Posted by Matthew Lynch on Thursday, Jan 17, 2013 1:27 AM (EDT):Congratulations from Scotland. This is a great decision - the recognition of the court that the child in the womb is a human being. God bless America.”
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Thank you, Matthew.
God bless you & Scotland, too.
Cardinal Dolan has been supporting life at All times even in the Demacratic Convention, that democrats “catholics” do not listen its another thing.
Thank you Robert I learned something today by reading your post!
Lets keep on praying the Bishops are asking from Jan 19 - 27 for the conversions like Cuomo here is more info
http://www.usccb.org/news/2013/13-017.cfm
WASHINGTON—The U.S. bishops’ Committee on Pro-Life Activities urges Catholics nationwide to participate in Nine Days of Prayer, Penance and Pilgrimage, January 19-27, marking the 40th anniversary of Roe v. Wade. The intentions for these nine days will be for healing and conversion, for elected officials who support abortion and for all people whose lives have been forever changed by an abortion.
This decision will be overturned by the US Supreme Court, as Roe Vs. Wade is part and parcel of the US Constitution and is addended case law. A woman should and does have the right to control her reproductive system and anything that grows on or in it is part of her body until separated by birth. Men may have a say so in this process when they begin to have symptoms which may result in abortion.
I agree with Joseph. However, what he termed “experiment,” if I understood it right in terms of terminating life inside the womb through any means, didn’t just fail, but it has to fail. A developmental philosophy that is based on population control is abhorrent in any society. Still, a lot has to be done in terms of renouncing from the culture: (1)the allure of pornographic media that impels deviations from human roles to promote wholesome family life, (2) the acceptability of homosexuality or the so-called “third sex”, and (3) the social agenda to commercialize primary health care for the poor.
As said before, we have created a society that does not respect life, and then we wonder why mass shootings occur. When we treat a child like a disposable item, and allow doctors to be legal murderers.Why is so hard to comprehend the evil we see daily? God help us.
Go back to the 4th century. Understand the history of the “church”. You will then understand where the words of Ballam and the mixing of Torah and man made “law” came in. YHVH and Yehousha, Yes the Aleph Tav, not Alpha and Omega is the missing elements as is the uncircumcised heart. So simple yet so far away. “Greasy Grace” and men in the image of men. Hebrew Vs. Greek perspective. Life is a gift, it is only missed when taken away. Over 2000 abortions a day (est.) in the U.S. alone. Stop wondering why we are falling and look in the mirror. Men become men in the “image” of Elohim (God)again and our women will not have the chance to make this abomination a reality. Read the book and walk it out. Stop just thinking about it. Watch the movie the Matrix and you may get a hint of the false reality we live in. We are here to serve the most High not our own flesh. Or just keep living the dream!
The Alabama Supreme Court recognized what any practicing Christian already knew; life does begin at conception. Praise God for this Court!
Chief Justice Roy Moore, a Gadsden, Alabama, native has received “heat” for a number of years due to his having always stood for God. Remember the widely covered Ten Commandment judge? That was Justice Moore!
Thanks, Justice Moore, for standing for that which was, is, and always will be right!
Alabama and Texas sure are starting to sound like great places to live. It may be time to consider moving.
Alleluia, and I pray that this is the beginning of the way back to a culture that stands for life and a deep belief in the Providence of God.
I am truly proud of my home state. I can not WAIT to get back home where people see that a child is child and should be protected, born or unborn. Praise God!
Wonderful. Maybe this will be the beginning of the beginning of the end of the national schizophrenia that says our preborn brothers and sisters aren’t human if they’re unwanted, but are human if they are wanted. We hope and pray that such irrationality will eventually be too much for otherwise normal people and hearts will open to the truth.
I loved hearing this so much…made me really hope…so much that I have been thinking of moving to this fine state.
Do you think Alabama would welcome a hard-working Northeastener who is Catholic, and just looking to abide in a place whose govt. isn’t trying to be all-things-to-all-people (and as a result stand fpr absolutely nothing)? Also to abide in a place where upon my death I can say to my God “I fought it, and I moved to a place that defied it”?
This is a sound decision and a positive sign in the 40 year struggle against this societal wrong. I am now a candidate against fellow Democrat Lois Capps, an entrenched (8-term) incumbent, in California’s 24th Congressional district for election in 2014. Unlike a large portion of the Democratic Party and our incumbent pro-choice Congressperson, I hold a strong and consistent ethical position on life (to include pro-life, anti-death penalty, anti-euthanasia, anti-physician assisted suicide, anti-racism, anti-poverty, and anti-unjust wars). As a life-long,practicing Catholic, I believe one of the most effective ways to change societal wrongs is to elect public officials that hold these fundamental beliefs and will have the political and moral courage and leadership to both voice and vote their conscience. I will do this once elected and I believe there is a 50% plus majority in our district that will support my campaign. Sincerely, Paul Coyne
I see a lot in here about good Catholics and Protestants but little about good Americans. The recent decision by the Alabama Supreme Court awarding childhood status to fetuses was clearly a religious decision and a gross violation of the Separation of Church and State. Alabama, long a center of reduced intellect, must endeavor to come into the 21st Century.
I keep reading that fetus is a noun and meaning “young while still in the womb” so it doesn’t sound religious to state that what was conceived is the offspring of the male and female humans…that offspring is human, a preborn child. The gross violation that occurred about 40 years ago was by the U.S. Supreme Court when if took away our Right to Life, ... Dear Richard, you were once a preborn child and so were all of your relatives. Good Americans, as you are questioning don’t throw an entire state (Alabama) of born humans into a reduced intellect box. Let all living Americans applaud this wise decision to finally end killing of the preborn child. Those who finally see the ugly truth (that they have supported murdering children) on the screen must face reality, remove all laws that allow abortion (murder of children) and stop the second most horrific dehumanization of persons—slavery being first.
Roe v. Wade is still the law of the land. Federal alw trumps state law every time.
Alabama recognized that the killing of our American unborn children are humans!!! It was about time!, we had to wait until the 21st. Century. God Bless Alabama!!!
Richard: What part of the Obama administration do you in? Do you know how stupid your comment sounded? Also can you please tell me why Scott Peterson was charged and found guilty of TWO COUNTS of 1st Degree murder when he murdered his pregnant wife? Seem to blow your contention right out of the water? This is only but one instance. Many states have sided with the unborn child in murder cases and ruled against the killer, and rightly so. And religious views don’t come into play in court rooms. It’s called scientific fact that the pregnant woman is carrying a breathing child under the age of 9 months just wanting to be born.
Amen!
Once got it wrong on slavery ... but they are way above everybody else on the right to LIFE of the UnBorn.
GOD Bless Alabama!
Slavery is also condemning a woman to carry to term and then support the child for how ever long, perhaps til it is an adult. There was no talk about placing any kind of responsibility on the father for financial and other support. The whole thing is placde on the mothers back by a very chauvinistic court. All right wing Christians.
No, you are quite mistaken. Our actions have consequences. The most natural consequence to occur when a male (that is why it should be a husband) and a female (that is why it should be a wife) are intimate. Richard, you are saying that murder is permitted if a natural consequence occurs between a man and a woman. No sir.
Richard, (sorry, I had to take care of a few things). Slavery is totally different from expecting a woman (and a man) to be responsible for their actions. If a man and a woman are not committed to one another, and if that man and woman do not have a covenant of love for their relationship, that man and woman do not belong in an intimate relationship. It is not a chauvinistic court…sounds as though you are a feminist. I lived that horrible dirty, angry female life many a year ago. It is disaster! One last point about not murdering the baby in the womb. I know many, many wonderful couples who have adopted and those kids are loving life—they could have been “inconvenient” and thus murdered. But they weren’t and they love their adopted parents (and some actually keep in touch with the birth mother—no father in sight). Life, Liberty and the pursuit of happiness…but no liberty and no happiness when life is taken away.
Richard,
Slavery is condemning a woman to carry to term and then support the child for however long? Are you kidding! Aren’t you the lucky one that your mother accepted slavery to give you life. This is one of the most aggregious posts I’ve read.
First of all it takes two to tango…...so women are just as responsible as men when a baby is conceived (and don’t toss the rape deal at me because it is a miniscule problem and the baby didn’t have anything to do with it). Second, your emotional argument doesn’t hold water in this day and age. In fact I believe that you are using the alies ‘Richard’ on this thread because this post has appeared before on the same subject only it was put up by a female. I remember well because I responded to it.
So this just another feminist attack on men and life…..
My name is Richard and I am a male….always have been. My mother was not a slave because she wanted me. If she did not want me but was forced by chauvinistic laws to carry me to term and beyond, then that would be enslavement.
We cannot enslave women or sacrifice their health or mental well being in defense of a fetus. Unless born and viable, a fetus must be not be considered a person. A woman must have complete control of her reproductive system including safe and legal abortion. If men do not like this then they must enter a state of matrimony and they and their wives create and bear children or remain sexually inactive.
Sorry “Richard” ...your comment is based on flawed thinking and severe lack of understanding…..the fetus is a life. A human being. It has a heartbeat, it has brainwaves, it is a perfectly formed human being. In fact this life is an American citizen—It has rights. This young embryonic citizen needs to be protected for it is the most underrepresented minority group.
So there is no enslavement here—- a mother who has conceived life must bring that life forward—she does not have to go forward with her child in life, she can put it up for adoption—- but that life needs to come forward. That’s an American citizen—that fetus has rights.
Richard, Your view on abortion is nauseating to say the least. I can’t believe you really believe what you are saying. Your opinion reminds me of a bumper sticker that read, “It is easy to be pro-abortion when your not the one being killed”. Your view of the 55 million people murdered in the womb is the coldest act of cruelty one can ever imagine.
Roe v. Wade - This might be the law but this does not mean that is the right thing to do. Whoever agrees with abortion is either non-catholic, bad Catholic or ignorant. Just with the agreement on abortion by catholics these so called catholics are out of the Catholic Church since they are NOT in communion with The Catholic Faith.
“The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing” - Edmund Burke
Mary, you absolutely ROCK!
Richard, I’m sorry but I don’t believe that you are male. I think your name might be Ronda, Rita or Ricki but I sense you are masquerading as a male. Your views on abortion are right out of the feminist handbook. This isn’t about a woman’s reproductive system, not about ‘a woman’s right to choose’; it is all about murder in the womb. You are behind the times….with 4D Sonograms we can see the baby develop in the womb; science has concluded that human life begins at conception.
And what is with the comment “unless born and viable, a fetus must not be considered a person”? Are you suggesting babies born alive with some physical and/or mental defect should be killed? Are you suggesting that ‘late term abortion’ is OK? Are your a Peter Singer fan and believe that it should be a parents choice to kill the baby within the first 30 days following birth? Do you subscribe to euthanasia? Mercy killings?
This kind of thinking was behind the Holocaust. To think people today subscribe to what history has already condemned is pitiful.
Mike Malone, like most conservatives you can’t understand why a man is standing up for a woman. To you, I imagine, a woman is created to serve man and have his babies. The Bible makes a mockery of women and for centuries women have been treated like chattel. Barefoot and pregnant and with no standing entirely dependent on men. I on the other hand see women as equal to and often, superior to men.
It is therefore interesting that a man is not criticized for having a vasectomy which prevents his sperm from fertilizing an egg. But a woman is criticized for using other methods of birth control.
You must come into the 21st Century and begin to see women and men as equal partners and relinquish male control of female reproductive systems.
And it is, by and large , a matter of religious and not scientific belief about when life begins, that has been the problem. A zygote is not a human being.
Richard,
With all due respect why don’t you buy a science book. It is settled science that when a male sperm unites with a female Oocyte producing a Zygote that human life has begun. Did you know that the fetus has a unique and separate DNA from that of the parents? It is a person, very much alive…..and barring some catastrophic event of nature, an accident or being murdered in the womb by an abortionist the end result will be a child. Next buy a biology book. Only women can have babies so doing so is totally natural and right.
With resect contraception you are the one that needs to come into the 21st century. It is (unfortunately) a fact that contraception is available on almost every street corner. It is cheap. Women can buy the pill for 9 bucks a month at Walmart.
You betray your female gender with your arguments. Men trying to control a woman’s reproduction systems…ha! Your not a male and your not standing up for women, you are defending murder in the womb and you do it badly.
As far as I’m concerned whether male or female those who support abortion are no better than the Taliban.
Lisa Kaiser: Federal law does not trump God’s law.
Riohard: Having a vasectomy as a contraceptive is a serious sin.
Robert,
I agree that federal law does not trump “God’s law”. I am only saying that the reality currently in the US is that Roe v. Wade is the law of the land—it is the law that both the federal government and state legislators must consider when looking to enact any statute or regulation relating to abortion.
Pursuant to the US Constitution, Roe v. Wade can only be changed by the US Supreme Court reversing the decision or by an amendment to the US Constitution (which the Framers made very difficult).
Reality is reality—it is something we cannot imagine away. We have to deal with it.
Lisa,
Slavery was the law of the land but was unjust. Roe v. Wade was unjust and we don’t have to accept it…we need to get rid of it just like we did with slavery.
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