catholics who cast their vote for the party that murders the child in the womb and spreads the filth of same-sex depravity ..the party of obama, the demon-crat party…are not catholic but heretics

Catholic Vote Checklist

Romney/Ryan
Defenders of life: check
Defenders of Marriage: check
Defenders of Freedom: check
Defenders of the poor (by helping them get and education and a job, and out of poverty): check

Obama/Biden
Defenders of life: fail
Defenders of Marriage: fail
Defenders of Freedom: fail
Defenders of the poor (by keeping in poverty and dependant on government): check

The choice is clear. And the Bishops are making the case too. If 50% of Catholis do not listen to their Bishops they are a sad group.

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How can any catholic vote for a president who has a proven track record of aggresively pursuing pro abortion actions?  Any catholic who votes for this president is on the same level as the doctor who performs the abortion. You are enabling this by your vote and will have to answer to God when you leave this earth.

81% of those who claim to be Catholic are not. The 19% should be the only persons polled. Only after the 81% return to the Church each and every week, not just on Christmas eve, will become eligible to again be polled.

Enough of the pro abortion, partial birth abortion, so called Catholics. Be gone with them.

Fastfoward to your judgement day: So sonny, what part of “Do not kill”, “Between one man and one woman”, and “Whatever you did to the least of my people, that you did unto me” did I not make clear?  It would not be an understatement to say that with their election choices, some Catholics will be making some more serious eternal choices as well.

So, if we can trust stats from Georgetown’s CARA, only 19 million Catholics (or 24%) attend Mass once a week. Wonder why the others even bother to self-identify as “Catholic” at all?? Because so-called “Catholics” as a block vote with “those without a religious affiliation,” what does that tells us about our Church?

This is beyond bizarre.  How can anyone who considers himself/herself Catholic vote for Obama: the most pro-abortion and pro-same sex union President ever?  Most people cannot possibly claim ignorance on this.  THERE’S NO EXCUSE FOR NOT KNOWING THIS.  IT WAS EVEN SPELLED OUT AS PART OF THE DEMOCRATIC NATIONAL CONVENTION PLATFORM.

In other words, there is no “Catholic” vote any more. Catholics no longer vote as a bloc. It is meaningless for politicians to worry about winning the “Catholic” vote. Self-identified Catholics are deciding whom to vote for based on the same criteria as other Americans.

Dear God - save us from ourselves. If 47% of Catholics vote for Obama - there is nothing left to say .....the United States, as we have known it, is dead as is religious freedom. Lord have mercy on us.

I guess by reading the article, one is able to tell why the Catholic vote is split pretty evenly.

However, a guide put out by Catholic Answers, informs us there are 5 non-negotiable issues to be considered when voting for a candidate. These issues are intrinsically evil, and fundamentally conflict with moral law. “It is a serious sin to deliberately endorse or promote any of these actions, and no candidate who really wants to advance the common good will support any action contrary to the non-negotiable principles involved in these issues.”

They are Abortion, Euthanasia, Embryonic Stem Cell Research, Human Cloning and Homosexual “Marriage.’ Following these guidelines, I think the candidate that should not get one Catholic vote is clear.

That guide is available at http://www.Catholic.com

This is quite understandable.  Why shouldn’t people who vote for BHO consider themselves Catholics, even good Catholics?  After all, our bishops say nothing when prominent so-called Catholics stand up and speak in support of BHO at the Dem convention - Biden, Kennedy, Sibelius, etc.  If the bishops would publicly denounce them, maybe this sort of thing might change but they choose not to do so.  Whenever asked, they usually come up with some lawyerly or “pastoral” reason:  it would do more harm than good, etc.  Even Cardinal Dolan gave them tacit approval with his closing prayer.  I guess they have made their peace with God and think they are doing the right thing.  Personally, I can’t figure it out - and neither will I give any support to the American bishops.

How do these numbers differ from the general population?  Not at all.  You might as well take a poll of bald people and see how they split.

Unfortunatly it’s not only so called “Catholics”, it’s priests and nuns and bishops.  How many bishops spoke out on the Ryan bill?  He didn’t want to deprive the governments aid to the poor but restrict some of the wasteful spending we give to people who don’t qualify.  Why do you think Catholics are so confused?  Will it be the Catholic vote that finally takes all of our religious freedoms away?  Who will we blame then?

Only 24% of Catholics attend Sunday Mass! Those are the only votes that
Romney/Ryan can count on from the Church and likely not all of those
will be in their corner. The remaining 76% are more than likely to either vote for Obama/Biden or not bother to vote at all. Therefore the majority of the Catholic voters are not really “Catholic voters” as they are not voting with a Catholic conscience. Our USCCB’s neglect for decades of
proper catechesis is showing itself at the ballot box! I am appreciatve of their novenas and prayers, but as the fool on the corner knows this is
” a day late and a dollar short”!! Obama is aware of the huge divisions within the Church and this is how he will manage, once more, to steal the so-called Catholic vote.  But know that his “Catholics” have names like
Biden, Pelosi, Sibilious, Keehan, etc. All the dissident gang that are
like wolves in sheep’s clothing. These along with more than a handful of
Bishops are leading the lambs to the slaughter in November! God have mercy on us all.

What Catholic vote?

I shudder to think that the vote among Catholic clergy could be almost as evenly split.  No wonder the Church is rudderless. Until we have clear and unified direction forget all this nonsense about “new evangelization”.

I blame our Bishops for Catholics voting for a President who supports, funds, and promotes abortion.  They have not taught and preach enough about the intrintic evil of abortion.  They let their priests do what they want, and the nuns who are getting media attention are an embarrassment.  How many complain that they never hear their Pastors give a homily on abortion.  The Catholic Church is afraid to hurt anyone feelings, or appear to be political.  The Bishops should join the 1000 or more Protestant Churches who are going to tell the truth about the President.  It’s time to express our religious beliefs and support politicans who support Life.

The Catholic vote should be Romney 100%, Obama 0%, that is if people truly understand the ways in which Obama has attacked out faith and will continue to attack it if given a second term.

Rita says, “I blame our Bishops for Catholics voting for a President who supports, funds, and promotes abortion.”

Of course. Of course it is the fault of the weaklings we have as bishops.

And not only is there rarely a homily given against abortion as Rita notes, but today’s priests have refused for the longest time to even preach against immoral sexual behavior.

As a result, there’s more sex outside of marriage by Catholics than there otherwise would be and hence more pressure for abortions. Here, the institutional Catholic Church is definitely complicit in many abortions.

oh yes they are—and it’s due to the sins of omission by priests & bishops.

As a group American Catholic clergy and its leadership are abject disgraces with a rare exception here and there. No wonder St. John Chrysostom said the floor of hell is littered with the bones of priests and bishops.

I see as many “Catholics for Obama” bumper stickers at church as anti abortion ones. Face it, the average person who considers themselves Catholic, even the ones who attend weekly Mass is pro choice and pro homosexual. I’d say the Church in this country does a terrible job of teaching what it truly believes but that would imply that it actually teaches anything. Sadly most priests these days look as bored at Mass as the people in the pews.

We have the Bishops and clergy to thank for the 47% voting for Obama.  Inspite of the HHS Mandate, the Bishops and clergy have been as stone silent on HHS as they have been on abortion and same sex marriage.  As far as the 47% are concerned, it is just fine to support abortion and homosexual marriage as OK because they hear nothing to the contrary coming from the pulpit.

Dan, you hit the nail right on the head when you wrote, “Sadly most priests these days look as bored at Mass as the people in the pews.”

I’ve been saying that for years.

It must appear to any objective observer that most priests are just going though the motions at Mass. Their body language, their voice, the whole tone of their appearance give little to no indication that anything sacred is going on up at the alter. You have to wonder what they actually believe.

@Vance…while I agree that the Bishops have been mostly silent on the
life issues, etc the fact that they ARE speaking out against the HHS
mandate is encouraging. Cardinal Dolan as well as Cardinals Wuerl and
several others have spoken out strongly again and again. Numerous
law suits are under way as well against this proposal. We should pray
that they remain strong until this issue is resolved. The Catholic in
the pew needs to become informed about all the issues in the coming election and vote a conscience correctly formed. If in doubt there are
plenty of sources online as well as the booklet the Bishops have published and should be in every parish by now on Voting the Catholic conscience. I have been a big critic of the USCCB but when they do stand
up we should support them where we can. Starting Sept 29th ( Feast of the Archangels) there will be a National Novena to the Mother of God, Protector of the Americas led by the Bishops. Each morning on EWTN this
will be prayed at the Daily Mass celebrated by a different Bishop each
morning. You can google this and get the special prayers. Pray and support this holy endeavor to save our Country.

Dan…you should look for a new parish…they are NOT all the way you
describe yours…fervant and pious priests abound and can be found.
If you have a pastor that looks as if he is just going through the
motions and bored get out of there!
Kenny…same advice to you! In both cases I would inform your Bishop
of your distress and your plans to seek another parish. Perhaps he
might be responsive and look into what is happening with your priest(s).

ThristForTruth,

You’re joking, right?

ThirstforTruth, we are a military family and have literally been to dozens of Catholic churches. I have only found three Priests who looked like they enjoyed saying Mass. Sadly all the other ones looked and acted like they didn’t care.

Bold liberal Catholics are putting the Obam bumperstickers on and driving to church. They are going door to door and sending tons of pro Obama E mail. These are Catholic who attend Mass. How do we fight back?

Fight back; Bishops please read;

Put the 5 non negotiables in the bulletin in dark bold font.
Show “For Greater Glory” in the church hall and provide free dinner.
Teach the people on the horrors of Abortion using the bulletin.
Dont be shy now- if we fail and Obama gets in with the catholic vote = the church will fall or at least divide.
Let your people speak to others outside church. All catholics should mingle and promote the pro life vote.
Get your priests on board. THey are all not on and it comes through in the homily and intentions. I almost walked out the other day.
Our pastor showed the Obam video 4 yrs ago to all the school kids and made a big problem for the parents who wanted to pull their kids out. A note would not do.
Catholic lay people can hang garage sale type signs early Sunday or late Friday. Do it around all the catholic parishes. Especially in swing states! Put empty charis with American flags around the town.
Get busy- God bless you all.

God bless you, Margaretut, but don’t you get it?

Most American Catholic bishops, their staffs and other hangers-on are FOR Obama.

@Dan and Kenny…NO! I am definitely NOT joking! What is at stake, your
eternal souls, is much too serious to joke about. Pray for quidance from
the Holy Spirit to direct you to a parish that is truly one, holy and apostolic…and a priest who also offers a Mass that is reverent, holy and inspiring. Also find good spiritual books that will inform you about
how we participate fully during the mass without the concept of being entertained.

Lucky for me both my priests and deacon have pro-life homilies at least once a month. I task each and everyone of you who do not have the same to go tell your priest your expectations. If he will not comply write a letter to your Bishop. If you still get push back contact the USCCB. We are all at fault if we do not speak up. Take it in your hands to get the job done.

Why does the Cleveland diocese have a front page story with graphical depiction of a survey that shows Obama over Romney at 54% and39% vs your survey that shows them closer 49 vs 47%. Can you influence that editor to use your stats?

God is in charge.  You can take that many different ways, but at the end of the day he is in charge.  Look, we “Catholics” have our work cut out - we need to fight back and convince the hearts and souls of people.  The best way to do this is through actions and love (love is both tough and gentle).

I’m disappointed about last night, as I feel this country continues down a course of even more immorality (ex. legalization of Gay marriage, Marijuinna).  Not to mention, all the little children that don’t have a voice, will continue to be murdered.

With that said, I believe that all of us were chosen by God to have lived specifically at this day in age - so that we can fight the good fight.  Remember “For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the powers of this dark world and against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly realms.”  - We are in a real fight, and we have to dig our heels and not give up. 

God is in control, but we are have the obligation to fight back, not give up, and use this last election as motivation to become the people we were meant and designed to be.

God Bless you all, God, please continue to Bless America, and God, please give everyone the strength to fight for you, even when it’s not popular to do so.

The truth is that the American Bishops and priests and consequently the faithful did not accept “Humane Vitae” “Fides et Ratio” and “Lumen Gentium” and rather divided themselves up between the pathetic Catholics that reminice the Tridentine Mass and the “avantguard” Catholics that are in no way further from the truth. Vatican II came and went and the people of God thought themselves in a position to discern right and wrong, sounds familiar right…..... Let’s think.. Genesis. Once more pride gets in the way and people allow themselves to think they know better than the Church. That said, here’s my question: where’s the involvement of us Catholics in terms of holding the priests accountable for stopping their worthless sermons and bingo nights and once more begin anew with the primary mission of passing on faith, a word of truth that has the power of waking people up from their delusional and sad state of deep sin??!