Great article as always :)

Shazam! You nailed it yet again. God bless you Simcha.

The things I miss when I fast from Facebook….

Ah! Thank you!! Yes! My gosh you have a way with words, and are so pithy to boot! I am bookmarking this for future reference.

I tried to articulate the same thing once, because I am so dang tired of hearing how little we pro-lifers care about anyone after they are born:

http://littlecatholicbubble.blogspot.com/2011/03/pro-lifers-love-fetus-but-they-dont.html

Hey, one bit of good news is that I finally got one accusatory liberal to concede that conservatives actually give MUCH more to charity in this nation (30% more), even though the heads of households of conservative families make less than liberals. It took an ABC News report and a NYTimes article to convince him, but finally he had to acknowledge the facts. It shook him a bit. I don’t know why it would. If he had any pro-life facebook friends, it would be quickly obvious, as you pointed out. :)

Wow, you have some amazing friends!

“If they were really pro-life, they’d work to care for the mom and her children after the delivery, too!”
The problem with that statement is that it’s a veiled attempt to imply that those who are “pro-life” DON’T do anything to help mothers, born children, or kittens. Obviously, that is a false assertion and a shady framework for discussion. Always examine the framing of a statement, first. Never allow others to set the terms of the debate.

SPOT ON! Thank you for your awesomeness.

I love it when I get this argument.  After our children were grown, my husband and I got our foster care license and adopted 3 special needs children out of foster care.  God lead us to do this, obviously, because no sane person in their 50s would adopt special needs children.  But I do love to see the look on the face of someone who insists that pro-lifers do not charge themselves with aiding the poor, neglected, dejected and/or disenfranchised. Bah Humbug! :)

Great post!
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I recently had a pro-choicer tell me that he was pro-life because he opposed the death penalty (but he clarified that he also supported, as he termed it, “abortion rights”). Not only is it a fallacy that you can’t be pro-life and not oppose capital punishment (http://blog.secularprolife.org/2012/01/abortion-and-death-penalty.html) but it’s actually logically inconsistent to support abortion but oppose the death penalty. Convicted criminals, at least, have the benefit of due process of law, whereas unborn children get no such privilege prior to their executions despite the fact that they are clearly innocent of any crime.

I agree with Simcha that most active pro-lifers to the traditional things listed above. But also I think its important not to downplay online activism. It should just be a peripheral aspect of prolife work though. Thomas Peters made that point the other day on CatholicVote. http://goo.gl/peKi5. Its amazing how much a simple “like” to an article that is worthwhile reading or sharing a story with friends who are ignorant will do.

I think you were to flippant in your translation of the pro-choice blogger and disrespectful of him or her. I find myself falling into this way of talking to my pro-choice friends and have to stop and read what I say before I post.

I want to thank you for posting off the top of your head many of the ways we promote life.  I will use them in a post to one of my pro-choice friends. 

Please pray for those who are pro-choice that they may see the Light of Christ.

Very nicely put Simcha. The term pro-life, as life affirming as it is, has unfortunately been tainted, in my opinion, by a narrow and militant focus on beginning of life matters. It can be quite ugly. Of course this doesn’t represent the vast majority of concerned and dedicated people who lend their support to people at all stages of life. Thanks for the list of all those wonderful things your friends are doing, very inspiring!

Wonderful article, thanks! I was recently approached by a man while praying at 40 Days who was angry that I’d impose my views on others, argued himself in a circle so that he wound up arguing for what he initially argued against (that we should lobby to change the law), and then fell back on the “you should care about babies after they’re born” line. When I started telling him about the local maternity home that lets women stay for two years after they give birth so they get their college degree, get on their feet, etc, he literally ran away before I could finish! I guess that’s called the ostrich defense?

While I am a pro-lifer and am vehemantly opposed to abortion and the hhs mandate and have stood up in protest against abortion myself I find that assuming that someone is well, an animal loving fanatic, to be unloving. We won’t draw others to Christ and therefore to a pro life standpoint by generalizing their views like they do ours. This person could be a nut but they could also be a person who is genuinely mis-informed. Bring peace to those around you and they may see Jesus

“I tend to focus more on the lives of nonhumans, which are no less precious or important, and I make it a point to preserve life wherever and whenever I can.”  I suspect this comment comes more out of youthful ignorance and inexperience than willful, careful deliberation.    He needs to love, lose, and grieve to appreciate just how awesome human beings are compared to the rest of Creation.  Well, that or he’s mentally ill.

This is the difference between the “Whole Life” pro-lifers and the “Anti-Abortion” pro-lifers. If we only fight against abortion, as many assume is all we’re interested in, we never actually get to serve and know those lucky enough to be born, which is really the reason we fight abortion in the first place.
Womb to Tomb is an essential way of being pro-life.

For anyone who thinks Simcha is being flippant in her assessment of this guy, or is exaggerating in any way, I can assure you she is not.  I’ve read the comment thread.  He literally said that he sees no difference between a kitten and a human and doesn’t see why a human life should be given any preferential treatment.  And therefore he is more pro-life than people who oppose abortion.  True story.

Spot on post as usual, S.

Love it!  Especially the part about the duckling.

Nice piece.  (And nice friends you have, too.)  The line that gets me is, “If you’re against abortion, how come you haven’t adopted any kids?”  As if any infant saved from abortion and put up for adoption would not be snapped up instantly by one of the thousands of couples desperate to adopt.

ARM, interesting you say “infant.” I guess infants are getting snapped up by couples, but I wish people would focus more on the thousands and millions of older children lingering around in state care who need homes as well.

UGGGGGGGG THANK YOU.

Also, Linda K, I second your SHAZAM.

I think one difficulty with the perception of the pro-life community by the pro-choice community is that “conservative” is always linked to pro-life, and “conservative” is also always linked to political activities directed toward weakening social safety nets. Pro-choice people see “conservative” politicians trying to outlaw abortion, and these same politicians are supporting laws to “privatize” social security, trying to defeat laws that will mandate affordable insurance and guarantee access to health insurance for people with pre-existing conditions, limiting unemployment benefits in a time of great economic distress and weakening laws meant to protect citizens from pollution to relieve corporations from the cost of controlling it. They are the public face of pro-life, rather than the many generous pro-life people who contribute time and money toward taking care of those who already fell through the social safety net.

When questioned on this apparent contradiction, conservative politicans assert that Jesus meant all charity to be private. I have a very hard time believing that Jesus would have opposed Social Security, or that he would have favored allowing corporations to keep more profit by letting them skimp on pollution controls.

It is hard to imagine the people who consistently vote for these politicians as performing the selfless, thoughtful acts of charity that they indeed do perform.

I think this is at the root of the accusation from pro-choicers that pro-lifers don’t care about people after they are born.

I recall hearing “pro-lifers do nothing after the baby is born” years ago during Robin William’s “comedy” fundraiser “Comic Relief” and knowing it was a crock…but I have heard it repeated many times since then by those who find their philosophical base in that Athens of the west, Hollywood.  I have even heard it repeated, to my dismay by Elizabeth Scalia (Anchoress), and one evening, I heard the same thing from a Knight of St. Gregory!  When I argued, a few liberals sitting around us said they were glad to hear that pro-lifers do much more than care for the unborn…but our PR was poor.  So, if it is a matter of PR, how do we get the word out?  When pro-life Catholics believe (yet another) Big Lie, how do we fight back?  Thanks for the good start, Simcha!!

Tina:
Nine birth children here at our house-waiting to bring our 14 year old adopted daughter home (an excruciatingly long process, by the way).  But I reject the idea that pro-lifers have to somehow prove themselves by adopting. In part because there are many obstacles to doing so and the emphasis in the social services world is to return the child to the birth parent-even if that means years in foster care, or years of a back and forth with parents who can never get it together.

But it’s obvious that what needs to be changed is the prevailing attitude that children are a burden, an obstacle, a hindrance (think of the cases in recent years of mothers who have killed their own children because a live-in boyfriend didn’t want them) rather than a precious gift to be cherished.  WE SHOULD allow a child to affect our lives-a baby should change us so that we think about more than ourselves, that we become responsible adults, pay attention to what’s in our food, stop putting unhealthy things into our own bodies, pay our bills on time etc.
If we allow the birth of a child to effects-there can only be a positive impact on society.  We’ve already seen what happens when the prevailing attitude is self first, others way down the list - to the point that (as Mother Theresa said) “it is a poverty that a child must die so may live the life that we wish”.  Deciding to be a grown-up and accept responsibility can only be a good thing for society.

Read Dr.Ray Gaurendi’s book on adoption (he and his wife have adopted ten children, and few of them were infants when adopted).  He explains how many birth mother’s take the attitude that they would rather abort than let “someone else raise my baby”, resulting in a wait time of over five years for those who wish adopt (not to mention, 4,000 abortions per day).

As Simcha suggests, there are many ways we each use our God given gifts to cherish life - there is no litmus test.  Although, I think we could all agree that taking a life would not qualify.

I hope our resident trolls, and some drive-by trolls feed on this one.

@Dwija- I am not on FB so I can’t see for myself:  Did anyone ask him if he is opposed to abortion?  I have a vegan friend who is completely hardcore, down-the-line, honey is murder type.  He says he struggles about abortion… I think it is his soft heart and women’s rights.
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Anyway, this guy is not alone in his thinking.  Wesley J Smith has been calling out the Animal Rights extremists for years now as misanthropes.

@MacBeth, I think I know the time you are talking about wrt The Anchoress.  I recall that her point was that *any* prolifer who stops thinking about justice once the fetus is born ought to re-examine that stance, because there are plenty of prolifers who do that, and they ought to be doing more (at least intellectually, to start with).  I agree with her!

Hmmm…. you don’t realize it, but you just accidentally guilt-triped me. I recetly spent some time doing charity work, and loved every second of it. When I saw the faces of the people I helped, I thought “Why on earth don’t I do this more often?” I dismissed it, but this brought it back up. Why don’t I? Because I have schoolwork. I have homework I SHOULD have done a long time ago, and I can’t do much else or even get out of the house much till I finnish it. Now excuse me, I have to go learn about the rise of Prussia and Austria as well as the Thirty Years War so that I can get it done, and get out!

Awesome.  I would add giving blood to the list of pro-life things to do…  :)

Bingo, Simcha.

You rock.

Thanks for this excellent and inspiring piece!  For all those who would like a little more ammunition for the PR war, I recommend this article:

Public Discourse: The Lazy Slander of the Pro-Life Cause

http://www.thepublicdiscourse.com/2011/01/2380

I don’t generally toot my own horn, but I never imagined that being modest would come back to bite my butt.  So, given the greater relative anonymity here, I’ll say a few things I’ve done:
- volunteer at a crisis pregnancy center (including buying clothes, unreimbursed, just because there was an obvious need for them)
- contribute generously from my small income to help with the medical bills of a friend who was in an accident
- visit someone in the hospital who wasn’t expecting it
- I almost never have change on me, but I won’t turn down a reasonable request to buy someone off the street a meal
Yeah, I could always do more, but it’s a start.

Tina: I agree in the sense that these kids need homes too.  However, in the context of this article and these comments, there are two things to remember: 1) These kids may be in danger of many things, but being aborted in utero isn’t one of them at this point; and 2) children adopted as infants don’t get a chance to grow old in the system.

I must take serious issue with the statement, “Pro-lifers only care about fetuses before they’re born.  If they were really pro-life, they’d work to care for the mom and her children after the delivery, too!”

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I hope I am not misunderstood because I think helping others is an indisputable moral obligation, but by what logic can anyone insist that you must be responsible for another’s welfare in order to believe they shouldn’t be murdered? If I was about to be killed, and the author of that ridiculous statement intervened to stop it, would he then be obligated to support me for the rest of my life? Make sure I didn’t become a burden to society? It would be nice if he did. It would make him a good person. But is that necessary for him to do in order to save me from death?

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So much of what I read from people who are “personally pro-life, but don’t want to impose their views on others” is a reluctance to commit themselves to the financial welfare other people’s innumerable unwanted offspring. They don’t want to be the pro-lifer who takes in the unwed mother or foster children, so they sweep the issue aside instead of taking the bare minimum moral stance that it is wrong to kill babies. This is unbelievable to me.

Love the duckling card!!! Hahaha!  Thanks for the awesome as always and entertaining post to give me something to read between diaper changes.  I agree with the other posters…your friends sound awesome.

“Posted by Edward Sullivan on Thursday, Mar 29, 2012 10:36 AM (EST):

I think you were to flippant in your translation of the pro-choice blogger and disrespectful of him or her. I find myself falling into this way of talking to my pro-choice friends and have to stop and read what I say before I post.

I want to thank you for posting off the top of your head many of the ways we promote life.  I will use them in a post to one of my pro-choice friends.

Please pray for those who are pro-choice that they may see the Light of Christ.”

Just wanted to let you know you’re not alone here.  I used to be a pro-choicer myself, and I remember using that exact same argument then.  And while I now recognize that it was I whose logic and morals were inconsistent and I’m ashamed of having taken such a position, my having been there will, I hope, help me to be more sensitive to others who in all likelihood THINK they’re arguing for the right position and need help to break out of that bubble—but not the forcible kind of help.  We need to always be pro-Christ before we’re anti-anything else.  Other than that, though, I appreciate this blog entry and especially that list.  There are so many ways to be pro-life, and no one deserves to be turned away for any reason.

I am a prolifer and I also stop for squirrels unless my life would be in danger by driving into another car. I loved your article. As a prolife I also support a local Pregnancy Outreach Center that support women before and after they have their baby. I run a Respect Life ministry at my church, assist the elderly, donate clothing and money to help the poor, and I am a wife and an adoptive mother. My bumper sticker reads “I am a Child not a Choice”. Our famly has 3 kitties that I love dearly, but not more than any human being.

There are many rubber hitting the road activites that pro-lifers engage in. Just one example is that both parishes in our community run annual “Dresser Projects.”  One does it by the book and the other ad hocs it, but both do a great job the mother or family of their choice.  Ours works through a PCC that does all the contact, and we keep just drop everthing off there.  This gives the mother/family a big leg up in taking care of her/their child.

My first thought when I saw the title: “Ummm… live?”

I hear “if you’re against abortion, you should adopt kids from the foster care system” a lot. People who say that haven’t looked into it. Kids in the foster care system are not up for adoption unless their parents’ rights have been severed, and this rarely happens until the children have experienced many years of abuse. The children have been sent to foster homes at a young age while their mothers are given a chance to reform (usually from drugs), sent back to their mothers, removed again and sent to a different foster home (because there’s no longer an opening in the former one), sent back to their mothers, abused and neglected, sent to another foster home…you get the idea. By this time the children are so emotionally and mentally disturbed, not just from the abuse and neglect but from not being allowed to bond permanently with one mother, that a family has to decide whether there’s an unacceptable risk to the well-being of the children they already have if they take them in. By the time most foster-care kids are up for adoption, they’re usually teenagers, and the danger is that they will express their woundedness sexually.

Tina: I said “infants” because that’s what’s actually relevant when we’re talking about moms who might otherwise choose abortion.  But beyond that, what MB and Abigail said! The idea that gadzillions of kids are waiting for homes if only somebody wanted them is largely mythical - there are all kinds of other obstacles such as Abigail details that make it very hard for them to be adopted, even with the best will in the world.

@Corita:  You believe there are plenty of pro-lifers “who stops thinking about justice once the fetus is born”?  That’s the Big Lie.  Why perpetuate it?  I have much respect for Elizabeth Scalia, but I read what she said, understood it to be an echo of the Big Lie, and I profoundly disagree.

I agree with the premise of this article that pro-lifers serve much of humanity post-natally and surely do NOT only think of the unborn. I have served alongside many pro-lifers to serve in many settings.  As a Healthcare workers, however, I am stunned at how often I (and my colleagues) are severely attacked by prolifers who accuse us of all sorts of horrible things in a terribly misinformed and fear-mongering manner. I coordinate a Perinatal Palliative Care program that gives compassionate and loving care to infants who are born with life-limiting conditions. I showed a video I made on EWTN and I got calls to my office accusing me of participating in a murderous previable 22 week delivery. A viewer saw that the baby was small and assumed incorrectly that she was severely premature…no, she had a disease that no only killed her, it also made her small. Gee, thanks for ASKING !!  I have been told that my program should not exist because we cant be trusted to not slide into error of terminally sedating and starving babies. Without a structured system of care, many of the babies I care for who live thier natural life and die in the loving arms of their parents might succumb to the culture of death that says a short life is not worth knowing. I implore prolifers to not make blanket and unsubstantiated accusations against healthcare workers…God leads many decent people to become Doctors and Nurses and you throwing us under a bus serves nothing but evil.

@Julie: I totally agree! Besides the fact that it is not financially feasible for Christians to keep up with all costs incurred by the MILLIONS of babies born out of wedlock every year, it’s not our job. Our job is to help people when they cannot help themselves; our job is to help them help themselves the best they can. We would actually be hurting our society if we really relieved parents of all their responsibility to their children. Look at how quickly we managed to raise a generation of people willing to use food stamps while they are in grad school—how quickly do you think we could raise a generation that feels put out if they don’t get reimbursed for all of their children’s expenses?

@Simcha: I also agree that the average Christian does tons for the poor and suffering, all of which is an extension of the prolife worldview. I love how you point out that lots of non-Christians do God’s work without even knowing his name. It’s a beautiful way to acknowledge the way his grace pulses throughout the world.

“I tend to focus more on the lives of nonhumans, which are no less precious or important, and I make it a point to preserve life wherever and whenever I can.”  My response: Hey Facebook man, since you value the lives of pregnant animals and their pre-born offspring precisely because they aren’t human, then why do you favor abortion of a human fetus because it isn’t human? How do you rationalize this? It’s hypocritical. Your worship of animals and disdain for human beings is revolting—keep it to yourself and don’t toot your own horn.

That Hat Lady- I suspect Simcha’s Facebook friend is anti-human. A lot, not all, but a lot of people that put their efforts into helping and advocating animal welfare are broken and hurt. Usually by other humans, so they grow this disdain for the human race, because the humans that have hurt them are usually those closest to them. Their disdain doesn’t stop at the unborn, but also extends to the elderly and the disabled. That’s my take.

Simcha, you articulated so eloquently and passionately, what I always felt, but haven’t quite put my finger on. Lovely piece of writing.

Oh and you can add- Pregnancy Support Counselling Hotline volunteer (run by the pro-life, NSW Australia Branch of Right To Life). My “prol-life” contribution.

@MacBeth
“You believe there are plenty of pro-lifers “who stops thinking about justice once the fetus is born”?  That’s the Big Lie.  Why perpetuate it?  I
have much respect for Elizabeth Scalia, but I read what she said, understood it to be an echo of the Big Lie, and I profoundly disagree.”
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Well, most lies have a grain of truth in them.  I have no problem with the prolife community asking ourselves these questions and urging those who call themselves prolife to examine their consciences and see if they are truly treating people as prolifers should. 
An unexamined view on abortion—for or against—is primarily that, unexamined, and as such can fall prey to all the ills of uninterrogated values: being watered down be creeping subjectivism,  being ignored or left unattended as they are not incorporated into a larger framework of integrity.  The damage done by those whose unexamined ideas are overridden by the siren song that is the excuse to judge others harshly…that damage is grave.  We owe it to ourselves and to the unborn to continuously strive for integrity and call each other (in the appropriate ways) to accountability.

And also, yes I DO *know* people (not counting the online weirdos I have met) whose “prolife” beliefs don’t stop them from being savages on the anonymous internet, of speaking in degrading terms of women who want abortions or people in poverty, of holding political views that want to close up society to anyone who wasn’t born here or who is is incapable of “pulling their own weight”, who use sexist, racist, or ablist terms to describe others.  Only one of them is Catholic, though.  ;)

I’m trying to think of another cause that, according to people like your Facebook friend, require you to solve all of the world’s problems before you have the right to voice an opinion.  I mean, you don’t see people telling global warming supporters that they should remain quiet until they discover cold fusion or solve the world’s energy problems. You don’t see people telling death penalty opponents that they have to volunteer to let the convicted murderer live next door before opening their mouths about his execution.  You don’t see anyone telling death penalty opponents that their view is illegitimate because they do not devote equal time to every social problem that leads to crime.

Amen! Well said.

I think that the caricatures so many pro-abortion people have of pro-lifers (and vice versa) are an indication of how little actual conversation there is about this issue.  We rarely engage in conversations with those on the “other side,” which makes it easy to make assumptions about what people think and do.  Unfortunately, venues like FB and Twitter make it easy to spout off an opinion with no actual dialogue—or, what passes for dialogue is really just posturing and point-scoring.  I used to read and comment on a blog frequented by pro-choice readers, but they quickly resorted to comments like the one Simcha posted here—and when I would talk about adopting my kids, having a single mom friend move in with me, etc. they just made comments like “then we’ll ship the 1 million unaborted babies to your house every year.”  It made me so frustrated and sad that I just stopped reading that blog altogether.

All these things you listed require time and money, neither of which I have.
I support pro-life in other ways that do not require very little time or money-bumper stickers, license plate, buy food for the hungry with what little money I DO have, sign on-line petitions.
Not everyone can adopt or offer shelter to someone. I have never been married, never had kids, never even babysat for a child and it would be very irresponsible for me to try now.
This guy makes me like my felines better than most humans.

Ok Iroy. Thanks for that. Is it necessary to come to NCR and write up a paragraph of excuses of why you care more about yourself and cats than anything, or should I say ANYONE else…? Maybe stop trolling Catholic website to ?$&@ stir and you will find you have more time on your hands to do the things Simcha listed. It’s called “being generous”- repeat it a few times and you might start doing it.

Apparently, according to Frank Bruni’s friend, they get abortions and then go on protesting.
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http://www.ncregister.com/blog/jennifer-fulwiler/love-is-never-easy/

I thought I was “doing things” for the pro-life movement, but after reading your list I realised that I’m not really doing anything (besides posting pro-life articles on facebook). That was definitely not your aim, but it does light a small fire under my butt to get going and contribute a little more AND remember those pretty important corporal works of mercy.
So, thanks and great article!
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This is a bald face lie.PROLIFERS do not care for babies after they are born!!It is about control of female bodies.The catholic church has always hated women.THe women are used to produce males that are Gods on earth!

Thank you for connecting the dots once again. To be truly unconditionally pro-life I must have an ethic of life from natural conception to natural death.  The problem has been, that many so-called pro-life advocates don’t keep busy with all of your list, and thus, cast a insincere shadow on the culture of life.  And, if there are those doing all of those other pro-life activities, yet are pro-choice when it comes to abortion and or contraception, they are labelled as pro culture of death.  We need to reconnect the dots from both sides to form a true coalition for life.

It’s also true, that many pro-lifers don’t do any of the things you listed, except focus on children within the womb. This is where the perception comes from, that pro-lifers aren’t pro-life, but merely anti-abortion. In many forums if you mention those other good works, so-called pro-ligers would shout you down.

A nice piece.  However, in today’s jargon, those who do all of those things but are pro-choice when it comes to abortion…and now contraception, are not considered pro-life. Would you be willing to call them pro-life? Would you be willing to converse rather than argue? Conversation can lead to conversion.

Ezabelle says, “I suspect Simcha’s Facebook friend is anti-human. A lot, not all, but a lot of people that put their efforts into helping and advocating animal welfare are broken and hurt. Usually by other humans, so they grow this disdain for the human race, because the humans that have hurt them are usually those closest to them. Their disdain doesn’t stop at the unborn, but also extends to the elderly and the disabled. That’s my take.”

Really?  Isn’t this assumption just as unfair as the assumption that pro-life activists do nothing to help people post-birth?  I am an animal welfare activist who is also strongly pro-life.  I oppose abortion and euthanasia of the elderly or disabled.  And while I don’t go quite so far as to claim that an animal life is equal to a human life, I oppose trophy hunting, abusive farming practices, and fur coats, and I am vegan.  I do not have this “disdain for the human race” that you speak of.  And I really wish that the pro-animal and pro-baby movements could come together and stop stereotyping one another.  Protection and love for all of God’s creations is the way to go.

Jenny, I did state “not all”- of which you obviously are an exception. I too love animals. I maybe wouldn’t agree with some of your views- I don’t oppose hunting, I eat meat, I wear leather etc… But my comment was based on my experience- my personal experience with most- NOT ALL- animal activists. For examPle I find it quite extraordinary that there was hardly any coverage from mainstream media on the The March for Life of which an estimated half a million people participated in, yet a great deal on animal conservation as it arises. Does that not bother you? Or strike you as bizaar? Especially when hundreds of thousands are aborted every year. Thats slaughter- done in silence- and society as a whole does not bat an eyelid.
And I take offense when people say pro-lifers don’t help the mother after the birth- that is total rubbish- I am a pregnancy phone counsellor and the majority of my referrals are for agencies who offer financial, emotional and other support to needing mothers. Besides, this, I believe in empowering a mother to face her responsibilities when faced with an unplanned pregnancy and encourage her she can do it. Women need that. Not society moddy-coddling them. Bring a mother of 3, with the youngest 3 weeks old, even I am finding it overwhelming and scary. But I want to hear the encouragement and support, not someone to look after my children cause its “difficult”.
Nothing wrong with the pro-life world and the pro-animal world being in agreement- as long as BOTH believ in protecting Gods creatures, including animals- with the most important being the innocent unborn HUMAN, who were made by him in His image and likeness. I just don’t think ALOT of animal activists believe what you believe.