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A Sex Abuse Expert Sees Hope in Pope Benedict

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Monica Applewhite

Monica Applewhite is one of the foremost experts on screening, monitoring and policy development for the prevention of sexual abuse and risk management for those with histories of sexual offending.

Applewhite has spent the past 16 years conducting research and root-cause analysis in the area of sexual abuse in organizations in order to assist organizations in developing best practice standards. Formerly with Praesidium Inc., she helped create an accreditation system for the Conference of Major Superiors of Men to hold them accountable to the highest standards of child protection.

She has worked with more than 300 organizations that serve children and youth, including 28 Catholic dioceses, the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops, the U.S. Jesuit Conference, and the Congregation for Institutes of Consecrated Life and Societies of the Apostolic Life in Rome.

Now director of Confianza LLC, a consulting firm specializing in standards of care and the dynamics of abuse in educational and religious environments, she resides in Austin, Texas.

Applewhite spoke with Register senior writer Tim Drake.


The sexual abuse of minors is not particular to the Catholic Church alone, is it?

Unfortunately, sexual abuse of minors and vulnerable adults happens in all organizations that serve these populations. What is distinctive for the Catholic Church is the saliency of the issue.

Both Catholics and non-Catholics are interested in reading and hearing about sexual abuse in the Catholic Church for a variety of reasons. In some ways, this is fortunate for those of us who advocate for education and prevention because it is an opportunity to address the issue within the Church while bringing to light a society-wide problem most people would prefer not to address.


Do you have any thoughts on why this has resurfaced at the time it has?

We have been through several cycles of media attention — first in 1985, then in 1992, again in 2002, and now in 2010. It’s not that we have new cases — the majority of the cases under discussion are still those from the ’60s, ’70s and early ’80s — but each time the issue arises we are able to analyze different aspects of the problem that should be addressed, from the harm that is caused, to the discipline for those who offend, to the long-term effects on victims, families and communities, and the need for accountability of leaders.

This new wave of interest and new information seems to be focused on the need for scrutiny of the universal Church, not just the Church of the United States, and that is new. One of the positive outcomes of media consideration of the problem is that with each publicized case, more adults and young people both within the Church and outside of the Church are able to talk about their own experiences.

The current media attention was sparked by cases in Germany and has led thousands of victims of abuse within the Catholic Church of Europe to come forward and report their own experiences. The German Church has set up a hotline, and thousands of people have already called in to report abuse.

I am grateful that the hotline was set up and we can begin to identify the people who have been harmed in this way.


Tell me about your work addressing this issue through Praesidium with the Conference of Major Superiors of Men.

When the bishops of the U.S. issued the Charter for the Protection of Children and Young People, the Conference of Major Superiors of Men (CMSM) developed the “Instruments of Hope and Healing.” The male religious superiors of the United States made a decision to hold themselves accountable to outside experts in the field through a system of accreditation for religious. CMSM selected Praesidium Inc. to conduct the accreditation visits and hold the religious communities accountable for 25 standards of excellence.

My role was to oversee the development of the standards, the system of measurement to ensure that standards were met, and the educational program for the major superiors. We were very strict in our interpretation and verification process. I directed the accreditation program through its first three-year cycle.


Is there much of a difference for how these cases are handled by religious institutes vs. dioceses?

Yes and no. Both the dioceses and the religious have committed themselves to reporting abuse to the civil authorities, to responding pastorally to victims and to investigating all abuse allegations.

In these cases, the dioceses are meant to follow the charter, and the religious are to follow the accreditation standards. Religious are also required to follow the charter with respect to prohibiting all public ministry, but this requirement is also in the accreditation standards.

The primary distinction is probably in terms of what happens to the individual priest or religious who is found to have sexually abused a minor. The charter clearly states that clerics who have sexually offended a minor or minors cannot be in any form of public ministry, but the document does not address standards for their supervision if they remain in the priesthood.

Religious accreditation actually has specific standards to address the requirements for supervision, support and accountability system for these men.

In the Church’s handling of this issue, can you tell me what the Church has done right?

The Church in the U.S. is the first large-scale organization to take two important steps toward healing and prevention of future incidents of abuse. We are the first to conduct a full prevalence study to determine how many incidents, how many victims and how many perpetrators of abuse there were from 1950 to 2002.

The John Jay College [of Criminal Justice] conducted this comprehensive research, and it is published on the USCCB website. Anyone who truly wants to know “the problem” we are facing should review the findings.

Secondly, the Roman Church is the first institution of its size to implement a full program of accountability to ensure the implementation of its reform efforts. Again, an outside team, the Gavin Group, has conducted the audits of the dioceses.

Large-scale organizational change, deep cultural change simply does not happen without accountability.

Is there much of a difference between what happens when a priest is accused today and what happened prior to 2002 (when the charter and norms were adopted)?

In most situations, no. The reforms of the Church began long before 2002. As laws changed, as understanding of sexual abuse and sexual offenders developed, so did the procedures of the Church in most local dioceses and communities.

It was 1992 when the bishops first began following the “Five Principles,” which included pastoral outreach to victims, investigations and open communication with communities.

Published in 1992, the bishops’ five principles were:

1) respond promptly to all allegations of abuse,

2) relieve the alleged offender promptly of his ministerial duties and refer him for appropriate medical evaluation and intervention,

3) comply with the obligations of civil law as regards reporting of the incident,

4) reach out to the victims and their families, and

5) deal as openly as possible with the members of the community.

What changed in 2002 was a dramatic improvement in uniformity, both within and across dioceses and religious communities. The toughest situations have always been when the allegation is against an extremely talented and charismatic priest, religious or lay minister. These are the situations in any organization that are the most divisive, the most difficult and the most likely to be handled improperly.

When the allegation seems impossible, in the absence of accountability, there is often a temptation to hope the situation will just “go away.”

In 2002, listening to stories of victims who were abused by just this type of offender, the bishops and religious superiors made commitments that would end “the exceptions.” These commitments and the associated accountability also addressed the fact that some leaders had simply elected not to follow the guidance of the five principles, and that also brought greater uniformity to the handling of allegations.

What criticisms remain regarding the Church’s handling of these cases?

Much of the public criticism of the Church’s early handling of cases stems from a lack of knowledge about the historical context of this phenomenon.

I have seen newspaper articles criticizing officials for not reporting acts of abuse to the civil authorities during years when there were no child protective services and the particular behaviors involved were not criminalized yet. It is fair for criticism of decisions made in the ’60s and ’70s to focus on interpretation of moral behavior, weakness in the resolve of leaders or even the disregard of procedures set out in canon law. By the same token, it is essential to separate this from expectations that are based on the laws and standards of today.

We began studying sexual abuse in the 1970s, discovered it caused real harm in 1978, and realized perpetrators were difficult to rehabilitate in the 1990s. During the ’70s when we were sending offenders to treatment, the criminal justice system was doing the very same thing with convicted offenders — sending them to treatment instead of prison.

At the time, it was believed they could be cured with relative ease. This is a very young body of knowledge, and as we sort through both valid and questionable criticisms, we must consider the historical context of any given episode.
Regarding the work that remains to be done, the most pressing concern for me is the lack of protocols to guide the supervision and accountability for priests and religious who have been accused or found to have sexually offended in the past or who have completed their obligations to the criminal justice system.

There continues to be a belief that aging and the passing of time will render these men safe. I understand we cannot supervise them if they are no longer a priest or religious, but as long as they are, we should strive to know how they spend their time and whether they are upholding the limits that have been placed on them.

Much criticism has been leveled at Pope Benedict XVI. Do you view that criticism as valid?

From my perspective, deep change in the culture of the Vatican began with Cardinal Ratzinger and has been solidified since he became Pope Benedict XVI.

When I began working with priests who had sexually offended, they would sometimes try to intimidate me with threats that if they “sent their case to Rome” to appeal how they were treated, that they would “win.” This was in response to my developing systems to hold them accountable for how they spent their time, who they visited and whether the people in their lives were aware of the sexual abuse they had committed.

Many times I heard, “You are in violation of my rights!” They clearly felt they had the upper hand.

Since that time, and particularly since 2000, the balance of power has shifted. I have since worked with many priests and religious who have sexually offended against minors, and if you ask them today, they would be very unlikely to assume that “Rome” is on their side.

Today, clerical and religious sexual offenders recognize they can be laicized for their crimes or for a failure to adhere to obedience. This gives us much more leverage in terms of ensuring adherence to safety provisions.

Several men I know have “tested” the CDF (Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith) and found no tolerance for sexual abuse in the priesthood and no sympathy for the cleric who disagrees with programs of prayer and penance.
Evidence of where Pope Benedict XVI stands can be found in the following examples:

1. He was the one who declared the use of Internet and other forms of child pornography to be a delictum gravius (a “grave delict”) — the same as a contact offense with a minor. He came to this conclusion at a time when many criminal jurisdictions were still debating the criminality of Internet pornography.

2. When he [became Pope], he appointed Cardinal [William] Levada from the U.S., clearly the country most likely to produce a stringent successor. As the prefect of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, Cardinal Levada has continued the legacy of increasingly strong response to sexual offenses by priests and religious.

3. The victims of sexual abuse who met with the Holy Father here in the U.S. were deeply touched by their meeting. They said they felt like he knew their cases personally. It is possible he did or that he has just known so many that are similar. I give great credibility to those victims who met with him personally. If they say he “gets it,” I am inclined to believe them.

It is also important to know that in Pope Benedict XVI we have the individual who has seen more cases of sexual abuse in the Catholic Church than perhaps anyone else in the world. I believe he knows how serious the problem is, and that he understands the sacrifices that have to be made to fix it.

Do you know why then-Cardinal Ratzinger suggested that the cases be handled by the CDF rather than the Congregation for Clergy?

I cannot say why Cardinal Ratzinger implemented the system of all cases being handled by the CDF in 2001, but I can speak to my own experience of this change. Prior to 2001, some cases of sexual abuse were sent to the CDF, some to the Congregation for Clergy, some to the Congregation for Religious, and some religious communities sent cases to their own general superiors.

As you can imagine, this made for considerable variation in the response and handling of the cases, because the various congregations made their own interpretations and could be more or less inclined toward stringency or leniency.

I was involved in investigations and review of cases to be sent to Rome beginning in 1996. Back then, the process was very slow, and it was difficult to predict whether the evidence would be considered “enough” for a conviction in the ecclesiastical system.

Since 2001, the system has become much more uniform. There is a “form” of how to write up the case so that all allegations and the outcomes of investigations are clearly documented. Many trials are held locally, and the process is much faster. Even more importantly, the CDF gives support and credibility to bishops and superiors who are involved in disciplinary procedures, from removal from ministry to laicization.

I still believe the rights of priests and religious are respected and upheld, but there is a greater attention to the needs of the community to be safe from harm.

In dealing with this issue, you’ve really seen the dark side of humanity and individuals within the Church. You’re still Catholic, aren’t you? How has it impacted your faith?

This is a question I actually get fairly often. Even though much of my adult life has been spent dealing with sexual abuse in the Church and other organizations, I’m still Catholic.

I will share with you that at first it wasn’t easy. I spent about three years struggling with what I learned about the Church … how people were hurt by those they trusted, how leaders would not listen and members of their communities turned away from the ones who had been hurt.

The saddest part for me was being turned away myself in the beginning when I offered to help. That was very painful. I cannot say it ever affected my feelings of closeness with God, but I felt an emotional distance from the Church as an organization.

It was my work with religious communities that started me on the road back to the Church. I began working with religious and spending whole weeks living in their communities, coming to know the work that they did, listening to the ways in which their ministries touched the lives of so many people.

Through this work with religious, the work with victims of abuse, and the development of response systems, I began to feel close to the Church again, to fall back in love. This time was different though.

I don’t think I have a trace of “infatuation” with the Church. I love it like you love your spouse after 40 years of marriage. I love it in its faults and failings. I love it all the more for the intensity of its humanness; perfection is not part of the bargain.

Once, a few years ago, a religious community set up a graveside service for a survivor of abuse who wanted closure. His perpetrator was deceased. We walked a long way to the cemetery. There, we prayed and let him read his letter. All of us cried and held hands. I think we each cried for different reasons.

Yes, my work has forced me to face the dark side of humanity and the Church, but it has also allowed me to witness grace and beauty in those moments when we need it most.


Do you think this is going to end up defining Benedict’s papacy?

Perhaps, but not in a negative way.  Now that so much information is coming forward I believe two things will happen.  First, we will all be privy to the information we need in order to understand how much Pope Benedict’s resolve and commitment have already changed the system within our Church.  We needed a pope that did not mind being considered “tough” and that is what we have.  Instead of change happening “behind the scenes,” we will know about it.  Second, all of the media attention and worldwide interest will give Pope Benedict just the political opportunity and leverage he needs to change the Church culture of silence and protection throughout the world much faster.  He won’t have to “sell” change in the way he would have if this had not happened.  Many of the barriers he has encountered for more than a decade will be broken down.  I believe this will solidify his legacy as the agent of change and restoration of the Church for which he would want to be remembered.

Tim Drake writes from St. Joseph, Minnesota.

 

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Thank you for this article. I love her analogy of being in love with the Church like you love your spouse of 40 years. Beautiful.

God bless.

In the interest of transparency and putting the protection of the children first, how about our Catholic Church reporting every credible claim of sexual abuse to the authorities?

I have so many Catholic friends who are “livid” about the abuse cases and have a tough time accepting that the Church is not guilty and is now “infested” with its corruption.  Many, I am sure, have looked for a way out to lessen the obligations the Church imposes on our life style and choices.  In short, those with an open mind will see the facts as stated in this article.  We all need to pray for understanding and remain confident that the Church will end the problem, but not the criticism for some decades, if at all in this generation. I do believe homosexual men should not be tolerated or given a “one time free ride.”  This is still at the bottom of the problem within the Church.

This article is indeed a breath of fresh air! It is honest and states clearly the truth of all that is happening. I thank God Monica, that you are able to rise above the initial rejection from the church as you are now offer to our wounded and beloved church, the guidance and wisdom it needs at this present time. The Lord has called you into this ministry.  May the Holy Spirit guide you in all your work. My love for the church remains, even in the midst of all the betrayals. Judas led the way and many have followed. Let us pray that our Holy Father will be empowered by the Lord to stem the flow.
God bless
Yours in Christ, Marianne

It is so “in” to bash Catholics, the Pope, priests, and the Catholic Church now. How sad and how dishonest! More children are abused in their homes and within their families than the church could ever do. Every organization (conside the Boy Scouts) is guilty of sexual abuse, but it is delicious for people to pickon the Catholic Church. No, abuse elsewhere does not excuse what sick priests have done. For starters, no homos should be allowed to be priests. YOu will note that as a rule, anyone abused by a priest is male; it is a matter of homosexuality and it needs to be gutted from the priesthood altogether.

Bob, IMHO, these “livid” Catholics need to get informed from Catholic sources like the Register and pewsitter.com instead of the biased mainstream media, aka. the Associated Press.

I am tired of being manipulated and being given half-truths by the mainstream media.

That’s why as a Catholic, I realize it is my duty to go to sources and inform myself.

’ The gates of Hell shall not prevail against it (The Church) ’ The system for abusive clergy failed.This open debate will bring true “reformation”. It will hurt the Church immensely only to make it ever stronger in the end.

Santan De Mello

It concerns me that if St. Peter wanted to be ordained a priest right now, no seminary would take him because he was married. 

I pray our church leadership will meditate on St. Paul’s writing in 1Corinthians 9:5, and rethink the practice of celibacy.

We need more men like St. Peter and the rest of the Apostles.

Ronna, please read Matthew 19:12 where Jesus, the unmarried, celibate High Priest tells us that some men give up   ual relations for the Kingdom of God. He says this is a difficult teaching, and not all can accept it, but let him accept it who can. 

We also have to remember that Peter and the other apostles who were married ended up leaving their wives and children BEHIND for the sake of the kingdom of God. Also, they were made widows and orphans when the Apostles gave their life for the Kingdom.

That’s what today’s bishops are called to do today as well- to literally given their lives if necessary for the sake of God.

Celibacy is was mandated as the ideal by Christ himself who     ed if for us.

Thank you, Liseaux.  Matthew 19 has been taken out of context regarding celibacy.  My father was killed in a car accident 3 months before I was born, and it’s taken me all my life to picture God as “Father” and most particularly, as a “loving” Father, as a result. 

Through reading the Bible, I know more of Who God is, of His character and His nature and He IS loving - He is caring.  God values families and He created marriage for one man and one woman, each to fulfill a role.

God would never expect a man to break his marriage promise and to abandon his wife and children, never coming back or fulfilling his responsibilities as husband and father.  1Timothy 3:1-5 and Titus Chapter One are better verses for qualifications for men in the ministry.

I am in an almost shepherdless diocese, the Diocese of San Jose, CA.  You can Google, “The Most Gay-Friendly Diocese in the Nation” - a Metro Article from Nov. 18, 2009, that was in newsracks all over the Bay Area, from San Francisco to San Jose.

We need more priests like St. Peter and the rest of the apostles and it’s time for all of us to look at what celibacy has cost us.  The price is too high (with so many priests actively homosexual, if not acting out with children) and heterosexual priests acting out with women.  We need to listen to Scripture.

Ronna, I am sorry about your father.  God still brought you into this life to glorify His Name, and you and I both have a Father in heaven- and a Mother!

I take Matthew 19:12 literally, and as for context, look at the Lord. He was not married.  As for leaving wife or children behind, I know there are several verses in the Bible that talk about not looking back to bury “the dead” and also that God came to divide mother from son, father from daughter, etc.

I have a Baptist friend who in our Bible study gave us a very perceptive insight about married ministers and missionaries.  She said that her aunts and uncles who did so much for their congregations had children who were “messed up.” Either on drugs, or “fatherless” because the parents had little time for them.

Billy Graham said that one of his regrets was that he didn’t pay as much attention to his family as he wanted.

(Trying to beat the computer.)

Remember his son Franklin’s rebellion? He’s come back to the Lord, but he had an absent father.

There ARE married priest in the Eastern rite Catholic Churches. So, this could change…. but not in our lifetime.

I truly empathize with you about being in a shepherdless diocese. I might consider moving, or doing some activism. Hang in there. I’ll pray for you and that region.

God bless you.

Thank you, Tim and Monica, for an article that brought peace to a part of my heart.  I’m a survivor of long-term abuse by a priest that began in the early ‘80’s.  I began working through it two years ago. God graced me with healing and relative peace.  Monica, viewing Praesidium’s “Called to Protect” as an educator was one thing that helped me begin the process. Thank you for that gift. I never got angry with the Church, but with this latest news, an anger has emerged that I cannot seem to shake and that logic can’t extinguish. My heart breaks when an involuntary, unjust anger towards the Church and the pope rises within me. The entire article was enlightening, but the part about the pope having seen more cases and understanding the issue better than anyone touched me deeply.  Your comment about the graveside service for the survivor was especially moving. I seriously thought about doing the same thing myself since my abuser is deceased.  After hearing your story, I may just do it.  Thank you.  What a gift you’ve given me today.

Liseaux - thanks for the tip about beating the time on the computer - it never occured to me to split the reply into 2 - good idea!

Re: Matthew 19, wouldn’t that make an equally good case for castration for priests upon ordination?  Jesus mentioned those that were rendered incapable of marriage by others, speaking about eunachs.  In fact, that is what caused so many former gnostics that converted to Christianity, to ASK to be castrated, or that made themselves enuachs, so they can devote everything to God.

But God never asked that of them.  If Jesus wanted single men to be His apostles, He would have just picked single men and not married men.  It would be cruel to rip families apart, when it was so easy to just choose single men.

- I’m sending this in a second part, to beat the clock, as you suggested and it worked!!  So much easier - thanks again for the idea!

Thank you for keeing the Diocese of San Jose, Ca in prayer - I have lived here all my life, and on my father’s side, come from a 4th generation family.  It would not make sense to leave just because we have little to no pastoral leadership here.  There are more people like me (conservative Catholic) and it’s better for us to 1) educate ourselves and 2) speak up w/ courage.

I had to write 3 letters to the bishop a few years ago, to get his attention about a New Age nun that was teaching bad information to a group of 60+ unsuspecting women (She taught the work of Neil Douglas Klotz and his “What Jesus REALLY said in Aramaic on the Beatitudes” - it was drivel.  But it was not easy to get that class stopped.  We need to be educated and have courage.  No more having our heads in the sand.  Looking at what celibacy is all about will be a good step.  Please reread Matt. 19 and pray about what it really means.  Then look at the other verses that ARE about qualifications for priests.

Hello Ronna,

Free will is one principle that really makes a difference with Matthew 19:12. 

“Some men are incapable of sexual activity from birth; some have been deliberately made so; and some there are who have freely renounced sex for the sake of God’s reign. Let him accept this teaching who can.”

If someone freely gives up sex for the kingdom of God, I know God will bless them for that.

Just an observation, Ronna. You say you are a conservative Catholic, yet you are promoting what, at least for now, the popes have said will not happen- universal married priests in the Catholic Church.

part 2

It occurs to me that while you question this topic, others are questioning too why not allow actively homosexual priests and women’s ordination.

How are you different from these people?

I don’t mean at all to offend you, but I see a contradiction in what you see others do and what you are doing.

Obedience to scripture, Sacred Tradition, and the magisterial teaching is important. 

IMHO, married priests are not the answer. We have numbers of vocations in certain dioceses that are FAITHFUL to Catholic teaching.

I don’t think we need to retreat to the norms of the culture, but we need to aim for the heavens, which I think Matthew 19:12 and Jesus’ own modeling asks us to do.

I think if Jesus wanted single men in the priesthood, he would have said so- as he did in Matthew 19:12.

Also, there will not be human marriage in heaven- we’ll all be united spiritually to the Trinity.

It’s blessed to start practicing that here on Earth, according to Paul in 1 Corinthians 7:8. Paul, who was celibate himself, goes on to recommend celibacy to full time ministers in verses 32-35.

Liseaux,

Thank you for your thoughtful reply.  I agree with you re: Matthew 19, in that there are some men that choose not to marry, and that needs to be respected.  But celibacy ought not be mandated or made a lifetime promise.

Levites were all married.  In the Old Testament, a Nazarite was ‘set apart for God’ but he only had to comply with 3 things: 1)to not cut his hair 2) to not drink alcohol and 3) to not touch a dead body.

It was the influence of the Gnostics in the early second century that brought the flesh into the equasion - making marriage and women off limits for a man that was ‘set apart for God’.

Re: homosexual priests and (God forbid) women priests, I will respond in a follow-up post to beat the clock on the computer!

Part Two:

Homosexually oriented men ought not be disqualified from the priesthood, only because of their inclination (that is just my opinion) because I know a very honorable man that left that lifestyle and he speaks out about how he has been changed by realizing what he was doing was sinful.  He has no aspirations to become ordained, but he DOES have a ministry!  He tells his former friends (those that still speak to him!) that they are living a disordered lifestyle.

I am very concerned that the statistic I’ve heard is that 50% of our existing group of priests are homosexual.  It makes conditions in seminaries very bad, because if these men are not attracted to women, but to other men, it sets them up to potentially lose.

I agree with my friend and the church leadership that it is a disorder.  Romans Chapter One tells us that to act upon the inclination is an offense to God - and a serious sin.

Will do a part 3: women priests, so this will go through…

Women priests!  Ah!  My favorite topic!

Two years ago, I had a New Age-type nun (the darling of Call to Action and Future Church) get piping mad at me and refuse to even SPEAK to me, because I asked her where it was in Scripture where women priests were allowed OR where it was in Universal Church Tradition.

She told me to go to the Episcopalean web site that had women priests!
What????????

After a series of follow-up questions, she asked me, “Do you think I’m Orthodox?” - because I had told her I’d boycotted a Voice of the Faithful symposium where she was going to be keynote speaker - and I said, “No.  I don’t.”  She had a fit.

Literally jumped up and down saying, “BUT I’M A THEOLOGIAN!  I’M A THEOLOGIAN!”  She put me on a 3 month ‘hiatus’ from speaking with her, she was so angry with me.

I made the hiatus permanent because I figured she had nothing to teach me. She did not know about any valid reason for women’s ordination because there is NONE in Scripture (actually, it is against Scripture) and there is NONE in Tradition.  - perhaps some odd Gnostic gospel may have something, but nothing that is valid.

Hope that answers your question.  Good to chat with you!

By the way, this area is ripe with “New Age Nuns” - the ‘theologian’ that put me on a 3 month hiatus from talking with her was different than the one that was teaching a group of 60+ women (including one 3rd grade catechism teacher) the class based on Neil Douglas Klotz’s work called, “A Fresh New Look at the Beatitudes” where instead of “Blessed are the poor in spirit, for theirs is the Kingdom of Heaven”, this nun said Jesus REALLY said in Aramaic, “Happy and aligned are they that are one with the Kingship and QUEENSHIP of Heaven.” - or words to that affect.

It was when I faxed the good nuns handout to Fr. Bill Fulco (Mel Gibson’s scholar of Aramaic for the Passion of the Christ) that somehow, out of the clear blue sky, my bishop sent me a letter saying that class would not be taught anymore.  I had given up after writing 3 letters to him about this, and him telling me “not to worry - people won’t accept it, if they don’t want to.”

Thanks for your prayers for this area.  We need them.  Across the board. Wolves are in charge of the chicken coop.

Ronna sayus that he know a person thought to be homosexual had changed the lifestyle realising it as sinful. His guess that 50 percent of seminarians are homosexuals is not based on any documentary proof. The other 50 percent who are considered to be heterosexual are not committing adultery simply because they are heterosexual The same way the homosexuals too should be devoted and maintaining Fidelity to Christ and his teaching Is it not Fidelity the main reason why a priest lives a holy life ?

I believe that some priests and nuns do not believe in Jesus or his teachings or the Catholic Church or its leadership. It is not clear why they want to say that they are christians or Catholics. They can found a church according to all principles they think fit and work in that gainfully Please, I request the nuns like Keehan of the U.S. to be a little kind and resign or retire. Let the Church go its way

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