Recently an article on the Internet that claims same-sex "marriage" used to be a Christian rite has been trending. It's been cited repeatedly, in many different places, and Jimmy has gotten multiple queries about how to respond to it.
According to the article:
Contrary to myth, Christianity's concept of marriage has not been set in stone since the days of Christ, but has constantly evolved as a concept and ritual.
Prof. John Boswell, the late Chairman of Yale University’s history department, discovered that in addition to heterosexual marriage ceremonies in ancient Christian church liturgical documents, there were also ceremonies called the "Office of Same-Sex Union" (10th and 11th century), and the "Order for Uniting Two Men" (11th and 12th century).
In this video episode of the Jimmy Akin Podcast, Jimmy discusses the piece, where it came from, what it is based on, and what the problems with it are.
He demonstrates that the article is derived from a deliberately falsified piece of scholarship by deceased professor John Boswell, who used outrageously false mistranslations to twist ancient documents to fit a modern agenda.
Jimmy Also reveals the true nature of the "same-sex unions" that Boswell discussed--and the fact that these very same rites are practiced in some parts of the Christian world today.
This must-see video will prove eye-opening for anyone interested in this subject.
By the way, in light of President Obama's recent endorsement of homosexual "marriage," Jimmy is preparing a special Secret Information Club "interview" with Pope Benedict on the subject of homosexual marriage.
To get your copy, you should sign up at www.SecretInfoClub.com by Thursday, and you'll get Pope Benedict's teaching on homosexual marriage by email on Friday.
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Same sex marriage is not consistent with Christ’s teachings. It’s antithetical to the concept of marriage and homosexual behavior goes against the 6th commandment. Is it possible that the issue of homosexuals trying to marry came up before the 18th century, maybe during the dark ages? Don’t know, I’m not a historian but I can tell you that it is not a tenet of the Catholic Church that goes back to the time of Christ. While Christians recognize the homosexual as a child of God and can separate the behavior from the person as well as to sympathize with their desire to partnership and legal issues, to redefine marriage is neither constructive nor useful to a Christian society.
What have you won?
Well, I suppose the usual arguments in favor in of same-sex marriage are more lucid than our potty-mouthed visitor above, but not by much.
The only thing I have a question conerning is why does Jimmy refer to himself in the 3rd person?
Very good, Jimmy, thank you! Now have a go with Wills’s piece in the same vein.
http://www.nybooks.com/blogs/nyrblog/2012/may/09/marriage-myth/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed:+nybooks+(The+New+York+Review+of+Books)&utm_content=Google+Reader
Update: Robin Young is no longer at The Catholic University of America. She left CUA several years ago and now teaches at Notre Dame.
Jimmy,
Please consider removing the potty mouth comment. Thank you for your work for the Lord.
Agreed, I don’t like censorship but, unnecessary rudeness should not be tolerated.
If the rudeness made a point it might be different. Just a misguided case of self imposed turrets syndrom.
Jimmy,
Can you remove the very vulgar post above? It’s pretty awful.
Thanks.
THIS is what I was looking for. Thanks Mr. Akin.
That offensive email for the time being, put on hiatus.
Awesome video!
May add the blood brother rituals/ceremonies the Chinese had as potrayed in their Kungfu, Wuxia or Triad-themed movies?
No same-sex union there.
The social triumph of homosexuality spells the death of male friendship. It is very sad that everything in this area is being now seen as sexually charged. Our world is becoming more and more one-dimensional.
Thanks Jimmy and God Bless. I admit that I was on of those folks that sent him on of the “multiple queries” on this article.
HIERONYMUS: Your short comment says a whole world of truth. It is so sad that men are afraid to become friends with other men and the same for the women, that used to be free to have women as close friends. Remember when the girls would have to dance with each other because the boys wouldn’t go out onto the dance floor with them? When I read about the great love of David and Jonathan had for each other as men and not sex toys and how so many of our boys are confused about their feelings. We are living in a very sick, sinful, dark world. God Bless You!! +JMJ+
As a sociey, we’re WAY BEYOND just trying to figure out how to stop this apparently growing push by a largely paganized, obviously uber-secularized and very degenerate and extermely coarse populace that’s dazed and confused by so much sand thrown in its face by a VERY WICKED segment bound & determined to make being gay the be-all and end-all in life. GOD HELP AND BLESS US ALL—MARKRITE
It continues to be an attack on morality and to diminish the authority of any church leader, Catholic or otherwise.
Obama has now said that he believes Sodomy ( of course we don’t want to call it that ) should be legally acceptable.
He and Michelle use Christ’s sacrifice to legitimize Sodomy as ” loving your neighbor ” I can’t believe the Bishop’s and all Christian leaders are letting him get away with this. They will lose all moral leadership if they do not object.
Charles:
http://usccb.org/news/2012/cardinal-dolan-president-obama-remarks-on-marriage-deeply-saddening.cfm
Thanks for posting this. I just had someone post that Boswell crap on FB, and I was able to get resources to refute it.
Wow, I was looking for the ‘gay marriage was once a christian rite’ thanks for helping me find it so I can spread it on facebook and twitter some more. Men who love other men and women who love other women have just as much right as women who love men. Love is love. ;)
Charles,
In a battle of wits I am fraud you re an unarmed man! First, the church has done quite well on its own hrough the years attacking morality. From the crusades to the child abuse candle tht they still have not fully taking responsibility for. Second, to focus on sodomy is like saying that heterosexual marriage Is just about having sex. That is childish. Love thy God with all our. Hert and all your soul and love one another like I loved you. That ws the reding lst week. Why not let those who love someone of the same sex manifest Christs love with a holy commitment?
The natural law precludes the possibility of same-sex unions for those who want to understand why the church will never give in to calls like Thomas Knestrict’s for allowing these unions. There has never been a basis for them. No matter how many folks continue to harp on this issue the Church will stand against this as it always has.
I remember in grade school, being taught by the nun, that at one time the Church blessed unions between two men! Things have changed! I never researched for myself, but I never thought she didn’t know what she was talking about, either! This was long before all the commotion about Gay Marriage that she made these comments. This seems like a Church cover-up to me!
To JMJ,
Thank you kindly for your support and wishes.
Is it just me or do I sense some people feeling that Jimmy’s pointing out the historical facts is just a “cover-up”?
Let’s see, if I can find something online that sounds good to me then that is truth.
If a nun proclaims it (if one actually did) then of course it’s true. (Why NOT research it yourself? Oh wait, research consists of finding something online that goes along with what you want to believe…)
Is this the dictatorship of moral relativism or is it plain stupidity? Oh well, at least they are spending time here where they aren’t going to make any converts!
Ahhh! Thank you! I was JUST coming on here to send you an email about this after I saw it posted on FB. Oh, thank you, Lord, for an answer to prayers! (quickly, too!)
There never was a DARK AGES. It waxed and waned in different eras and places but the LIGHT of TRUTH and the GOSPEL was never ever dimmed as Jesus promised. Read a decent Church History, not protestant or anti-Christian-Catholic “enlightenment” propaganda. GOD never sleeps and His Holy Books were never all burned.
Here in Coahuila we have a social contract where two people can unite their goods. If one of the two dies, the goods stay with the other. If the one who dies has children, the children stay with the survivor. It is not called a marriage, but homosexual people can use the “pacto social” if they want. Other people can use it, too. Two divorced women with children can combine their households and share health insurance, care of their children, and household costs. It can make a real difference in quality of life. If the children are growing up with a close bond, the mother knows that if she dies, no one will forcibly remove her children from their home. Curiously, if you didn’t already know it, many homosexual men who are in middle life choose to live together without wanting to be lovers. A man may choose to live with a lifelong friend without a sexual relationship, but enjoying the companionship of a friend. It has happened that when a homosexual man who lives with another man dies, the family of the deceased insists on taking half of the belongings, including the house. A social pact avoids this. To try to do the same thing—combine goods and custody and all—with a private lawyer is very expensive, and would not include health coverage. The state offers a reasonably priced way to help people live better without having to imply a sexual relationship. It could work in the United States as well.
To Fr. Robert Coogan,
It all sounds like a very good idea but it wouldn’t work in the States because homosexual activists are not interested in sound practical solutions. They want “equality” misinterpreted as sameness. They don’t want civil unions with all their benefits, they want marriage (even though, of course, they are completely unsuitable for it by nature.)
BTW, “same-Sex” is new-speak for “homosexuality”, part of the redefinition shell game.
Suggested related reading:
Contrary to the general perception, the early Christians “found themselves in a pagan (Roman) culture where there were few restrictions on sexuality at all, other than the imagination—a culture that… looks suspiciously like ours… (So) Gay marriage along with homosexuality (despite what homosexual activists would like us to think)... is not another sexual innovation peculiar to our ‘enlightened age’... or a seamless advance on the civil rights movement (sic) but the return to pre-Christian, pagan sexual (im)morality.”
Full story:
http://www.lifesitenews.com/news/gay-marriage-and-homosexuality-were-part-of-moral-landscape-in-ancient-rome?utm_source=LifeSiteNews.com+Daily+Newsletter&utm_campaign=44291d1522-LifeSiteNews_com_Intl_Headlines_06_26_2012&utm_medium=email
Who says we should have a Christian society, 2.5 billion say yes, 4.5 billion say no way!
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