Isn’t this the same group (Apple) that blocked Manhattan Declaration from having an app because it offended large groups of people? I would call 1 billion Catholics a large group of people. Let alone all of the angels and saints….don’t get no bigger.

The response to this is simple. Ditch your ipods, Ipads, Iphones, cancel your Itunes account. There are enough options now. If a quarter of the Catholics in America boycotted Apple, they would notice it where they feel it….their quarterly profit and loss statement.

I agree with John, I was considering getting an iPhone as Verizon has them now and I’m due for an upgrade, but after reading this no way.  I’m not supporting Apple, I don’t care how useful or fun their products might be.

Why are y’all so shocked?  Look what they did to Christ.  NCR is just promoting this ap with this blog post, and giving the ap free advertising.  You are saying, “Look at this!” I can’t believe I just wasted my time reading this.

Apple products are just a tool; what you do with that tool is up to the user. Apple does not block a user from reading the Manhattan declaration online. Why NCR has this freak out over aps is just silly.

Its like a bunch of old people shaking their fists at “that darn Rock Music!”

Well, guess this makes my decision between an Iphone and Android more clear now doesn’t it?  Android it is!

I agree with Laura. And everyone who’s saying “boycott Apple” is blatantly ignorant over what the App Store IS! The App store contains apps from THIRD PARTY DEVELOPERS. Not Apple. Apple is just a censor for the apps. So if you don’t like it, email them, flag the App, make your voice heard. I’m a devout Roman Catholic, and I think this is just a childish app with poor taste. A couple of nerds in a basement making iPhone games HARDLY constitutes an all out assault on the Church. Common NCR, (whose name I love because it makes me think of the New California Republic) don’t issue WARNING WARNING WE’RE ALL GOING TO DIE” alerts over stuff like this.

We’re the gosh darned Roman Catholic Church. The Church Militant. We don’t have to freak out over stuff like this.

I don’t think anyone is freaking, I think they are acting like the Church Militant, they are taking up arms! In the long run though you do have to choose your battles. There are many issues to face and we have to discern which ones are best spent using our precious energy and time. If boycotting works for some I say go for it! But Nick you are right in a sense we have bigger fish to fry.

Yes, buy your Androids and stick it to Apple and feel good about yourselves. Just be ready to toss your androids in a couple months because almost every app that premiers with Apple products makes their way to all the other devices, too. This is going to be an expensive protest for you, but worth it, right?

While you’re at it, cancel your cable or satelite because they sometimes broadcast anti-Catholic programs.

Why don’t we start a petition like other groups have done as it states in Apple’s policy that the application may not offend a large group of society. This is offensive an we need to tell them it is!

Exactly, Craig. What’s important to remember is that even if an App is legitimately anti Catholic, you can’t blame all of Apple. There are no “review boards” for each app. It’s just a guy, and the guy may be spiteful. There are many other fish to fry indeed.
Totally agree, Paul. Every device can have “offensive things.” But they can also be used for productive purposes. Like Catholic blogging. ;)

I disagree Laura - Apple has censored apps that are contrary to the image they wish to display or from a desire to cater to a segment of society they are unwilling to offend. Catholics obviously are not among the latter.

Nick - there must be a ‘review board’ - the Manhattan Declaration app was banned.

Boycott is a powerful tool. The prolife community is using it against corporations with growing success. Kohls and another business - can’t recall it off the top of my head - have stopped supporting Planned Parenthood….because of the pressure pro-life groups have exerted. 40 Days for Life protests have placed abortion clinics in the spotlight and have resulted in countless lives saved and clinics shut down.

Finally, there is nothing wrong with my original statement. The Pope has not made a pronouncement ex cathedra, so we as Catholics are not compelled to boycott Apple. I think that sending a message is a good idea….if Apple will ban some apps for moral reasons, the door should swing the other way as well.

Frankly I am surprised that there are Catholics who aren’t offended by this app.

this is disgusting .If such a mockery was made of islam there would be riots in the street .

With high profile things, they can be reviewed by a “board”, I’m sure. But once again, flag the app. Email them.
I’m not offended because to be offended by something, it must be legitimately worthy of emotion. This app just made me snort. It is childish, and the developers obviously think they’re being funny. I just don’t see the need to declare “we’re going down” over an app like this. It’s just a stupid game. This tiny 1 dollar app is no reason to boycott. I use my iPhone to keep up with NCR, American Papist, and New Advent. I also have an app that contains the ENTIRE Catechism, as well as the entire Missal. Just because there’s an app that CAN be downloaded, doesn’t mean you throw away the device. Hernando Cortez. He’s a hero of mine. He conquered the Aztecs. And guess what he did when he had their tallest temple that had seen the blood of thousands of humans? He celebrated Mass. On top of the Devil’s greatest temple, he celebrated the Holy Mass, bringing Jesus into the center of the darkest kingdom in the world. He used it for good. So can we. Stay up to date with the tools and toys of the world, so you can use them against the world. Engage secularism.
Please note though, I do agree that if Apple as a company denounced the Church, I’d spit on them. But not for this. God bless.

Before you throw out your iPhone and get an Android, know this. So far, Apple has banned porn-apps, while Android has absolutely no restrictions.  This shameful app will no doubt appear on Android as well. Just flood Apple with letters/email, and online comments to demand the removal of this offensive tripe.

That’s why I support Apple, Ron. Apple has publicly refused to allow such crap into the App store. They’re not a perfect company, but they do seem to try. They try to a point that’s incredible, seeing as they’re such a massive company. Most companies don’t care what goes on their devices. Apple wants the iPhone to be as pure as they can.

The reason to point out something like this is to create buzz and a voice to Apple about how we feel.  Letting them know we are offended is the entire purpose of this post.  Keep your Apple sure, but be sure to complain about how this app is not just a joke but is offensive (and sorry, it really is or should be).

@Cliff, that is what makes us different. We are inherently a suffering body, a sacramental church. Our faith is founded on the blood of the martyrs. We have learned that violence doesn’t accomplish God’s will. That doesn’t mean that we always act like doormats though. We are also the Church militant who fight for love, Christ’s love.
@Rachel, exactly.

You can also call Apple for technical support. The number is readily available. I suggest calling and complaining.

Just a thought as I am too old to know much about all the i-phones and such.(I do fairly well with the computer)
My thought: Maybe if lax Catholics or any other Christian or non Christian will see the picture shown above, then it might remind them of these seven sins. When you think about it, everyone of these sins are very, very prevalent today. “Turn something BAD into something GOOD”. Who knows where this will lead “God works in mysterious ways”. 
Just to lighten up a bit—-an old childish saying: “Sticks and stones may break my bones, but names (i-phones) will never hurt me”  (Now, why did that come to my old mind) ;o)

Maybe if y’all railed against every other type of “sin” with the same passion and vigor you use when you beat down the gays, people would be a little more receptive to your plight. But you don’t, so we’re not.

I see something more sinister in this - the satan-worship practice of turning the sacraments inside out for their own rituals.
Yes, we are free to reject it or see it as absurd, or excuse Apple for any number of reasons, but we have to recognize the deeper problem and act as a member of the Church Militant at all times.  That means speaking out.  As St. Ambrose is credited with saying: “Not only for every idle word, but for every idle silence, must man render an account.”

@Mark: I don’t know if you are gay or speaking for the Gay Community. I do know this about many Catholics—-Back in the early 80’s, I knew an ex-nun who was a Hospice nurse—on her own, without the help of hospice or anyone, she and her husband bought an old motel in the country—(this was when gays were not all the way “out” and families were rejecting some who were ill) After they bought the motel, she went into the gay community in the close-by city and invited any of them with aids to come to her and they would be taken care of at her motel which she called “Our Lady of Peace”. She brought peace and health to them. They stayed there for as long as they had to. So you see, not every one in the Catholic Church are against Gays. I have two nephews who are Gay and they feel the same as you do about their Church because the Church does not approve of the Gay life-style. That does not mean that the Church hates your group and I will tell you, the Church does everything it can to help those in need, including the gay community.  Also the Church does not approve of the lifestyle of some parishioners who use birth control or have abortions—but they too are loved & helped.  God Bless you and keep you in His care (and I mean this)

@ Everyone: I know this has nothing to do with the subject but:

Headlines on the internet:  34,000-year-old organisms found, still alive Scientists digging below Death Valley discover what may be the oldest living things on Earth. ‘Little time capsules’

Doesn’t this get to you: The sperm fertilizes the egg and a BABY begins to GROW, but “some” like to call it a FETUS, therefore it is not a BABY to them and not “LIVING”—so they feel to ABORT is not KILLING.  Well, people who are pro-choice, this FETUS IS ALIVE and IT IS LIVING, just as the organisms found above.  Why can’t they get this through their heads!

Sue, as a labor and delivery nurse, and now science teacher, I am interested in your “off the subject” comment.  However, fetus has always been the medically scientific term for the infant developing in utero.  It is a direct Latin word for “bearing”, “bringing forth”, “hatching of the young” and, therefore, appropriately transferred to mean “offspring.”  It is a fine word that does not diminish the humanity of the developing human.  As I tell my students, it is a developmental term - just like, newborn, infant, toddler, teenager, etc…..

Therese, Yes I know this and that is what I tried to get across above, BUT, pro-choice people have said that when a baby is in the “fetus stage” (or developing stage—before 3 months) it is not a living, viable human being, yet. That is the way THEY think. They don’t put the word “fetus” and the word “infant baby” in the same category. (it is not an infant, yet)—-{using the word “fetus” seems to make them feel better about it}  To me “life” begins as soon as the ovum is fertilized by the sperm.
I guess what I was trying to get across is that science will call a 34,000 yr. old oganism “still alive” and the oldest “living thing” (they even mentioned it was not growing—- yet pro-choice people will say a fetus, just starting to grow is not viable and if not viable, not living. If they really believed the fetus was a living thing, would they still kill it?  Please correct me if my thinking is wrong. You see, I just don’t understand the mind-set of pro-choice people.
I am glad you are teaching your students the opposite of what pro-choices believe about ‘fetus’ and infant baby being the same.

I don’t think we need to boycott, but we should make a big stink.  Gather up the troops, and let’s make some noise!

Sue, “gay” people and the “gay community” share every “lifestyle”, including ones which may be celibate, devout Catholic, as priests, bishops, “heroes” (like the aide to Congresswoman Giffords) etc just as “straight” people share every lifestyle.  Billions of “straight” people engage in all sorts of acts, including adultery, fornication, prostitution, murder, abortion, contraception and yes, homosexual acts.  Indeed, perhaps the majority of homosexual acts are engaged in by “straight” people.  “Gay people” and “straight people” refer to people of varying “sexual orientations” (an attraction) and not to some particular alleged “lifestyle”.

Sue, it is only SOME pro-choice people who opine that a fetus is not a PERSON.  Other pro-choice people have other views, including their personal view that the fetus is in fact a person.  However, many, perhaps the majority, reportedly do not KNOW whether a fetus is a “person” (whatever that is) or not and therefore leave the final decision to the mother (or whoever) rather than force their personal beliefs/opinions/guesses upon others.  You asked the question, “If they really believed the fetus was a living thing, would they still kill it?”  Very few, if any at all, would say a gestating fetus is “not living”.  Living plants, mosquitoes and bacteria are all “living things”, but does that mean they’re “persons”?  In the English language, “fetus” is a word which can refer to a particular stage of development, as “after the end of the second month of gestation”.  While some people might use the word fetus “to make them feel better about it”, that’s not always true. Indeed, in the earliest weeks, the unborn as an embryo isn’t a fetus at all.  Such statements often reflect the fact that “embryo”, “fetus” and “infant” or “baby” may refer to particular and different stages of development rather than an attempt to say the embryo or fetus, i.e. the unborn, is not a “person”. Indeed, there pro-choice people who may believe that all the unborn (at any stage of development) are all “persons”, but that personhood develops over time like an acorn becoming a tree.  And while some may hesitate to chop down a tree, they may think little of tossing an acorn. But if it’s your acorn, and you’re willing to care for and raise it, then that’s your choice. Rather than presume sinister motives to what someone says, we are commanded to always be charitable in our interpretations, otherwise we have not removed the log from our own eye first.  If you “just don’t understand the mind-set of pro-choice people”, why then do you purport to tell us “the way they think”?  What would you understand if you understand the way YOU think?

@Pamela:  You are mincing words with me. I understand what I have read about pro-choice and that is, that it means it is your “choice” whether you want an abortion or not. Whether an embryo, or fetus, or person or whatever, it is my belief that human beings develop as soon as the ovum is fertilized by the sperm.  An embryo develops into a fetus then the fetus starts developing into a baby who when totally formed is born into this world & is called an infant/baby. These are stages of a human being development.  [A baby boy is not called a man, because he has not matured into a man.]  I am a Catholic and I believe as the Catholic Church does, that abortion is wrong. If you are a pro-choice person, then that is your prerogative. My husband was not a religious person and I never pushed my religion on him and I don’t push my beliefs about abortion on anyone else. I was speaking to a group of Catholics,& I don’t believe they thought me uncharitable by expressing my thoughts on a statement I found in the news.  Maybe you are not Catholic, I don’t know. I believe as the Catholic Church does. You have a right to your beliefs and your opinions.

@ Mark:  Well, we are dealing with semantics again. I guess I am not a politically correct person.  Mark, I told you a story of a man and woman who did a wonderful thing for the gay community, when things were not that great for them. I know for a fact that one of the young men with aids was disowned by his family because of it.  That was not unusual in those days, now more people are educated in this area.  Also, before you say anything else, yes I know heterosexuals also get aids. Yet, you never acknowleged the help these people gave to the homosexual community. You worried more about the word “lifestyle”—you preferred I use the word “attraction” [now I know].  I was trying to point out to you that not everyone “beats down gays”. Yes, I know heterosexuals also have their lifestyles, that some people don’t agree with. I was definitely not judging, just trying to let you know that there are many “good” people within our Church.

This is outrageous and deeply offensive.

Everyone with an iTunes account or iDevice should open the App Store, search for “Penance” (app icon is a large P), click “Report a Problem” and then “this app is offensive,” and then explain in the box that this application is offensive to Catholics and perhaps also inform the reviewers that if it isn’t removed, Apple will be rightly criticized for having a double standard for rejecting the Manhattan Declaration app while letting this one stay.

Sue, it’s not a matter of “mincing” words.  You requested, “Please correct me if my thinking is wrong,” and by a plain reading of the words you wrote, your thinking was wrong.  For example, you claimed that “pro-choice people will say a fetus… if not viable [is] not living.”  What I say is that a plain reading of your claim is a miscontrual or misrepresentation of the pro-choice issue.  The majority of pro-choice people do not believe or say such a thing as you claim about them.  And if you actually “believe as the Catholic Church does” (which is a rather queer thing for anyone to claim given the depth of her mystery) then you are pro-choice as expressed in the Church’s teachings that (1) God permits people to do whatever they do because he respects their freedom, and (2) a human being MUST ALWAYS obey the certain judgment of her conscience.  There are no exceptions to “must always”, and the Church teaches that her conscience might tell her it’s ok to abort. Your own words could be the words of a pro-choice person when you say “if you are [fill in the blank], then that is your prerogative… I don’t push my beliefs about abortion on anyone else.”  Pro-choice is a rather broad umbrella and pro-choice people have a diversity of beliefs.  Like you, many believe there are stages of human development.  And there are many pro-choice people who believe abortion is always wrong.  Your claim that you were “speaking to a group of Catholics” does not excuse you to make false claims about pro-choice people.  Many Catholics are pro-choice, perhaps even you.

Sue, it is generally and rightly considered “beating down gays” to use the term “gay lifestyle” in the pejorative.  It is not merely “semantics” or dodged with a slothful “Oh well, I guess I am not a politically correct person”.  You say I “never acknowleged the help” that a lone man and woman allegedly gave to the gay community, but you offered only a vague unsubstantiated account about two isolated people.  You haven’t proven yourself to be a credible reporter, and whatever one lone ex-nun and her husband did or didn’t do (and the devil is in the details) doesn’t substantiate your claim that “the Church does everything it can to help those in need”, nor does it excuse the failings of its members which are legion.  Don’t try to hitch a ride on the story of some lone ex-nun.  Though many Catholics have done things for the gay community, at the same time, it remains that Church leaders have spoken harshly about much of it.

@TDK: I am not “hitching a ride on an ex-nun story”. I was answering Mark because he seemed so angry at the Church for its beliefs. I was trying to tell him that not all people (in the church or in the public) are negative toward gay people. I agree with you, some in the church are and some are not. If I had room on this blog I could go into many situations that occurred, where a gay person was harmed. As I said I have 2 nephews who are gay, they are treated no differently from their two other brothers. In our family it is not a problem in any form, shape or manner. In my MIND & BELIEF, it is not a problem. Again, I was just trying to appease Mark in some way because he sounded so angry and hurt. (guess I shall have to speak to my gay nephews about terminology & I am not being sarcastic when I say this—we are very “open” in my family)
I also think I shall stop “trying” from now on as all of a sudden I have a gay person and a pro-choice person on my back and neither of you will try to understand what I am saying.

@Pamela: You refuse to understand that most people get their info from what they read—-if you find my beliefs wrong in some way, then your pro-choice group (or whatever)  ought to speak to the church or public and not to one lone person. I do not understand your remark “there are many pro-choice people who believe abortion is wrong”—-if that is true, then what are they pro-choice about? Also when I say “I do not push my beliefs about abortion on anyone” I mean that I do not push my beliefs of anything on anyone, they are totally mine. (didn’t I prove that when I said I did not push my beliefs on my non-catholic husband?)

To both of you: I don’t mind anyone informing me when I am right or wrong,in their estimation;  but don’t say “I am hitching a ride on some x-nun”, which was sarcastic and don’t say “I was making false claims” which was also wrong, because pro-choice is always connected with pro-abortion. (if that is wrong, then you and your group must change public thinking) You can get so much further in your pursuits if you are kinder.

I agree with Nick. Don’t boycot, eMail them.  If we boycott every darned thing that offends us, and remain silent, nothing will change. Anyway, if you are consistent, you will have to boycott almost every company out there. Most support gay rights and everything else ou there.  Write, call, and be heard!!!

Sue, I strongly suspect that Mark already knows—without any need for your posts—that “not ALL people (in the church or in the public) are negative toward gay people”.  For example, it would be reasonable to suspect that Mark himself (and probably many other people that he knows of) are not negative toward gay people.  The issue in Mark’s post was not that “all” people are against gay people but that there’s an apparent obsessive public “beat down gays” behavior among too many Catholics, and in particular, if I might interject, among more than a few in outspoken Catholic leadership positions.  Even if the majority of the laity were in support of the gay community, it remains that the leadership is often vocally opposed and using language that is offensive and false to much of the gay community.  Your own post with your backwater pejorative “gay lifestyle” comments and your implicit denial that there is a problem (“In my MIND & BELIEF, it is not a problem”) are hardly “appeasing” but are instead evidence of what Mark posted about.  The Church does not teach that it is not a problem.  Without exception, every and any instance, no matter how large or seemingly small, whether many or few, whether you see it or not, of unjust discrimination, whether in language or whatever, IS a problem.

@ Sue, you asked, “I do not understand your remark ‘there are many pro-choice people who believe abortion is wrong’—-if that is true, then what are they pro-choice about?”  There are pro-choice people who are opposed to abortion, even under any circumstances without exception, AND believe as the Church teaches that “Man has the right to act in conscience and in freedom so as personally to make moral decisions. He must not be forced to act contrary to his conscience. Nor must he be prevented from acting according to his conscience, especially in religious matters.”  One can be opposed to abortion AND support a woman’s “right to act in conscience and in freedom so as personally to make moral decisions”.  One can be opposed to abortion AND believe that a woman should not “be prevented from acting according to her conscience”.  Put simply, with care, a person can be both pro-life and pro-choice, as explained.

@Sue,
If the GLBT community feels so disenfranchised by the Church, perhaps they ought to try living their faith more fully?
For the record, if I read your comments correctly, you believe that the Church teaches that everyone must exercise their own conscience?
Did you forget the part about how that conscience must be properly informed?

Whether it’s abortion or homosexual behavior, Christ made it pretty plain that His Church will teach what it should.

@Lizbeth: When Vatican II started, a priest told us (a woman’s group) that if a married couple wanted to use birth control, IN ALL GOOD CONSCIENCE, then it is not a sin.  From what I understand today, much of the teachings during Vatican II was wrong (even some things about the Mass) and now the church says that it is wrong to use birth control under any circumstances. Maybe I watch too much of EWTN.  Now, who am I to believe. Truthfully, I would much rather believe your way, but others in church would then call us cafeteria Catholics. Your quote—“Man has the right to act in conscience and in freedom so as personally to make moral decisions. He must not be forced to act contrary to his conscience. Nor must he be prevented from acting according to his conscience, especially in religious matters.”  I have never heard of this quote so why doesn’t Fr. Jay Finelli, who posted above step in and correct us on this.  I am really confused. {there are times when I think joining the Luteran church would be simpler and less confusing.

@John: As to the GLBT—I have no anx (sp) against them as I stated before. I do not put people, whether gay, race or ethnicity into categories.  I think all of us as human beings that God created. Also you are mistaking me for someone else—I never said “exercising your own conscience” in my post.
What did you mean by “Did you forget the part about how that conscience must be properly informed?” Informed by whom, the church telling us how it should think—that is not your concience, that is being told what to believe. I don’t believe in God because the Church tells me to—I believe in God, because I really do. Yes, my parents, my Church taught me about God when I was a child and I believe.  You cannot MAKE a person believe what they can’t. {you & Lizbeth don’t seem to think alike on this conscience thing} I do believe that too many Christians judge others, when that is up to God. You don’t know what is in another person heart. I have had a Catholic ‘friend’ accuse me of using birth control “because I had only two children”.  I have also had another Catholic say that “I was not really married according to the church because my husband was not baptized.” Well, kindly, deceased Fr. Fitz Simmons knew this at the time & we were married in the church (actually rectory). As to the die-hard Catholic posters, my husband was baptized by me, before he died. His funeral was at a Mass in my church. The Bishop knew all this. If I were your type of judgmental Catholic, our marriage would not have lasted & possibly another soul lost. Sorry, but your post upset me.

Sue,
I’m saddened by your comments, but I must remind you:  Catholic faith does teach objective Truth, not merely human opinion.  It’s not always easy to follow; often it’s not.  Even so, if we intend to refer to ourselves as “Catholic”, we need to follow the rules that She has set forth.

I don’t believe I have condemned you or anyone else; rather I’ve stated what I’ve learned of Truth.
I’m saddened that this upsets you, but I didn’t create the world or make the rules.
Our Almighty Father in Heaven did that.

How about spending all that fun, fun, fun app time in humble prayer. wow Just think how many blessings would result if more people spent more time before the Blessed Sacrament. What great selfless, selfless, selfless fruit that would bear for the soul and the whole Church. Listening to the Lord in the depths of the heart and making this a priority would probably put the sale and use of the volumes fun stuff on a back burner or in perspective…..where they belong.

Perhaps it has been said here already (I don’t have the time to read all the forty-six postings) but if you want to be a faithful Catholic it is really advisable to become a cultural Luddite. Let’s face it - the contemporary media and its associated technology are definitely not on the side of the angels. Of course, some of them (like the Internet) can be used in our good fight but all the rest - especially the newspapers and the TV, staffed mostly by rabid secularists or just religious ignoramuses - are harmful and, by and large, immune to any attempts at correction. Personally, I haven’t watched cable TV - apart from a very occasional movie (and by “occasional” I mean once a year) and the weather channel - for close to five years now. I haven’t read a real newspaper (apart from scanning the headlines in the free dailies such as the Metro or the 24hrs) for even longer, and I am still alive and doing well. We don’t really need those talking hairdos and the rest of this garbage, folks! I won’t even mention various cellphones with their fancy-shmancy attachments (obviously, I don’t own one.) My dilemma lies in the use of the Internet. On the one hand, the owners of Microsoft, Apple and Google are all on the wrong side; they actively support abortion, homosexuality, etc., hence the faithful Catholics ought to steer clear of their products. On the other hand, though, this would mean to stop using the Internet altogether (I am not aware of any browsers or search engines which would be both very efficient AND morally acceptable.) The question is, of course, can we afford to do that? Personally, I think that we can still use them in the service of good, to propagate the Christian message and fight evil, but I must say that I fully understand the faithful who completely renounce them.

Apple, if you remember, lended their support against Prop 8. http://www.osnews.com/story/20432/Google_Apple_Openly_Support_Fight_Against_Proposition_8_

Sue, if you’ve “never heard” the quote Lizbeth offered, perhaps it’s because you’ve never actually read the official Catechism of the Catholic Church, or Pope Paul VI’s “Dignitatis Humanae”.  I checked, and it’s a direct quote from these official Church sources.

God will not be mocked?

IESVS·NAZARENVS·REX·IVDÆORVM?

@ Sue Something does not add up in your piece: 

“...she and her husband bought an old motel in the country—(this was when gays were not all the way “out” and families were rejecting some who were ill) After they bought the motel, she went into the gay community in the close-by city and invited any of them with aids to come to her and they would be taken care of at her motel which she called “Our Lady of Peace”. She brought peace and health to them. They stayed there for as long as they had to. So you see, not every one in the Catholic Church are against Gays.”

The nun you mention could not be Catholic.  Catholic nuns are brides of Christ.  They cannot marry mortal men.

@mariosw63:  If you read my post again I said she was an ex-nun. I asked her once, why she left her nun’s order and her answer was that after Vatican II when nuns started to wear the shorter habit and doing other things differently, it all became too easy and she was the type who liked a challenge. Some nuns today live and work in the world, whereas she liked being the “old-fashioned nun” who stayed in the convent. (that was her excuse to me-what was in her heart, I do not know)  She met her husband AFTER she left the order. Actually she was an RN before she became a nun, working in a Catholic Hospital.  My own brother married a woman who was at one time a nun. My 8th grade nun teacher (Sister of Charity) in Catholic Grade School left the nuns and married.  When my daughter was going to Catholic High School and some of the nuns started to wear the shorter habit, one nun told her how glad she was because when they walked on the sidewalks their long dresses would pick up all kinds of stuff, like phlegm, etc. and then when they went back to the convent they’d have to spend time washing the hems of their clothes. In my mind she was another Mother Teresa in her own way. She was always helping people. I met this woman when I worked at Hospice after my husband died and we went to the same Roman Catholic Church.

We need to speak out against thing like this because we do not want the thing of God mocked. It is fairly easy to report this as offensive to Apple, and maybe they will acknowledge if enough of us do so. Just go to the app in the app store and click where it says “Report a problem.”. There is an option after that for telling them the app is offensive, and then you can comment.  I just did it right from my iPad after reading this article.  Let’s get a lot of us to do this!

There is a real need for confession of one’s sins to a Priest. One need only witness the “confession” shows on TV, and the “reality” shows that expose private lives for all to see, or the “scandal sheets’ at the check-out line that blare and blab about “grown folks” problems. This stuff has increased as Confession/Reconciliation decreased. Now, we say it’s a “psychiatric” problem that made ‘em do it. BOSH ! “The Prince of the Power of the Air” is becoming more “visible”, as he becomes less “seen”  ! Sin causes spiritual blindness! “In the land of the blind, the one-eyed man is King !” 
Oprah is a poor Confessor, or Spiritual Advisor !!

I am a convert to the Roman Catholic Church. I am the one you all have been praying for all these years. I am the “one most in need of God’s mercy”. I thank God every day for opening my eyes to the Truth (”...Not a someTHING, but a someBODY, like Fr Corapi says). I have seen the Church from the outside, and now from the inside. I describe myself as a “Born-Again Recovering Anti-Catholic Pro Life Peace Activist”. I have read posts here that make me sad, and I need to give my brothers and sisters some advice about contraception and abortion. My advice is this; “Don’t believe the hype!” Contraception and abortion kills! It “tears down what God has put together.” Before my conversion, things happened in my life that I will always regret. I realized the Catholic Church was teaching the Truth “in season and out of season.’ My “life verse’ is Heb 13:8, “Jesus Christ, the same yesterday, today and tomorrow”. Whether it’s “popular” or not, the Church teaches things about the Truth that you can’t get anywhere else. For those who think contraception and abortion are OK, let me ask one simple question, and I hope your conscience is turned on “high” now. Question: “If today, you as an adult, were to learn that for some unexplained reason,the Supreme Court of the United States of America were to declare your race as non-persons, how would you prove them to be liars?”

I’ve posted a complaint on the Apple website, and I encourage others to do the same.  Note that you can’t post a comment about this product unless you download the product, which I don’t suggest you do.  But you can go to www.apple.com then click on “Contact Us” in the lower right corner, and then click on “Product Feedback” in the lower right corner. 
I’ve emailed several dozen Cathholic friends to urge them to do the same.

This is wonderful!  What a remarkable toy!  No matter what complainers say, as St. Paul reminded, “We know that in everything God works for good for those who love him.” (Romans 8:28) This toy is no exception.  It has potential as a tool to raise the awareness of sin, to impress the need for confession and respect for heirarchy.  As St. Catherine of Siena said, “Everything comes from love, all is ordained for the salvation of man.”  People who are mentally ill might confuse a game with reality, but perhaps the game could also help direct such people to a mental health professional in their area.  As it is written, “Therefore, confess your sins to one another and pray for one another, that you may be healed.” (James 5:16)

Though it can get old, we have to voice our yeas or nays to companies to send them a clear message.  There is incredible ignorance out there about Catholic beliefs.  The sad thing is that it feeds anti-Catholic bigotry, certainly not helping the bigots to be led in the right direction.  We need to kindly correct and gently admonish.  Educate the ignorant with love, but also firmness.  Do not support any company if it has inappropriate advertising of any type.  They’ll get the message after millions of Catholics ‘just say no’ monetarily! I know for a fact this works!

I think this is definitely an app that should be complained about as offensive, but am honestly not sure about boycotting Apple products because of it.  I see potential for good in their machines.

By the way, where would one find a list of companies that support things against Church teaching?  I have read about several companies now supporting this or that, but where does the information come from?  Anyone know?

I say put down the gadgets!  Read a book, visit a friend, cook a decent meal for a change, spend an hour in prayer, volunteer.  There are plenty of alternatives to these silly little machines that everyone is adicted to.  I know of a beautiful 18 yr. old girl who got her head cracked open by a truck because she stepped right out in front of him, she didn’t hear him honking (headphones)and was looking down at her gadget while she was walking forward.  These things have people mezmerized.  She survived, thans be to God.  But the suffering this “thing” has caused.

John, every company on earth probably “supports” things against Church teaching in some form or fashion.  “Support” is a very broad word.  God “supports” every company.  Everyone does things against Church teaching.  We are called to “support” one another, even those who do things against Church teaching.

Sue, did you hear about the beautiful gadgetless woman who burned to death from a cooking fire?  She was addicted to food.  And the beautiful woman who was killed on her way to the library? She was addicted to Nora Roberts.  And the beautiful gadgetless family killed on their way to visit friends?  They were addicted to socializing.  And the beautiful gadgetless volunteers who were electrocuted because they too weren’t paying attention?  They were addicted to trying new things.  Not paying attention was the cause, not gadgets or addictions.  Meanwhile, millions of ordinary people with gadgets and headphones have crossed the road in safety but went unnoticed and so we don’t hear about them.

Hasham Abbas, creator of this application. His name sounds like he is Islamic. The sublime war between Christ,and Muhammad continues. And as for Apple, isn’t this the symbol of the apple with a bite missing? Is this a referrence, and mockery to Eve’s sin, and a mockery of Christianity. Remember, it was Satan who was in the serpent, the serpent did not talk on his own. That devil can show up anywhere. The Apple with the missing bite, no thanks. My symbol will always be the Cross of Christ.

Oh, Oh, we have two “Sue’s” on here.  Sue, who spoke of the gadgets is not me. ;o) Guess I shall quit this blog, it has gone far enough for me.

Grandpa, the name “Hesham Abbas” might sound Islamic to you, but “Abbas” is medieval Latin for “abbot”, and is an element in a number of place names in England.  Hesham Abbas is reportedly based in Birmingam, England.  “Abbas” also means lion in Arabic, and can belong to a person of any religion, including Catholic, or agnostic or whatever.  Jesus instructed not to judge by appearances, as even someone with rosy cheeks and dressed in a cassock with an old-fashioned Irish name prefixed with the title “Fr.” might be handing lollipops to naked children in the rectory.  The original Apple logo featured Isaac Newton sitting under an apple tree with a quotation of Wordsworth inscribed into the logo: “Newton… a mind forever voyaging through strange seas of thought”.  Over time, the logo was simplified.  The bite was added because it reportedly (according to the logo’s designer) gave it personality rather than being just another apple.  The man, Rob Janoff, who designed this logo said of your Adam & Eve story: “I’m afraid it didn’t have a thing to do with it. From a designer’s point of view and you probably experienced this, one of the big phenomena is having the experience of designing a logo for whatever reasons you design it, and years later you find out supposedly why you did certain things. And, they are all BS. It’s a wonderful urban legend. Somebody starts it and then people go ‘oh yeah, that must be it’.”  You speak of your symbol, but your symbols include the words you have posted, for which you will be held to account.  What’s gotten into you?  Let’s not forget that the Catholic Church teaches: “The plan of salvation also includes those who acknowledge the Creator, in the first place amongst whom are the Muslims; these profess to hold the faith of Abraham, and together with us they adore the one, merciful God, mankind’s judge on the last day.” (CCC#841, Dogmatic Constitution on the Church Lumen Gentium 16)

Apple’s logo designer also said: “I’m probably the least religious person, so Adam and Eve didn’t have anything to do with it… I designed it with a bite for scale, so people get that it was an apple not a cherry. Also it was kind of iconic about taking a bite out of an apple. Something that everyone can experience. It goes across cultures. If anybody ever had an apple he probably bitten into it and that’s what you get.”

What’s the problem here, Apple operates in the market.  Joseph Stalin is reputed to have asked ‘how many divisions does the pope have?’ There are approximately 1.2 billion catholics in the world plus millions of christians of other denominations which seems to me to be a customer base which even Apple can’t ignore. I am an Apple lover but will be very happy to boycott them unless or until they stop trying to prevent me and millions of others having access to the Apps referred to .  Anybody got any idea how to raise the temperature against Apple as a company?

Mr. Hughes:
Only way I can see is for someone to create similar products, compete with Apple and corporate America at large, and be sticky about morals.
And/or provoke clergy to speak about serious matters from the pulpit, so we practice what we preach.

Apple did not create the product.  Apple is like a bookstore which sells a wide variety of books written by other people.  The content of some books might be subjectively viewed as offensive or containing “mature” content by some people, and they may be so labeled, but the bookstore is not responsible for the content and the bookstore is not morally required to remove the book.

Loren,
Apple created a product which provides access to other products; much like a bookstore, as you suggest.  In so doing, they exercise discretion regarding the material available.  They’re not required to remove the book, but it’s fair, even crucial, to critique them when they exercise poor judgement.
Don’t forget, Disney and Barnes and Noble have exercised poor judgement before too, and in VERY public ways.  If we didn’t complain or consider taking business elsewhere, I wonder whether they’d bother at all about morals.  (No, I don’t trust their screening rules.)

Considering that Apple recently rejected the Manhattan Project’s app on grounds of it’s “offensive” nature, I think there’s ample cause for concern.
I’d love to see a consumer demand-driven repeal of this idiocy.

If I may be a bit more specific, there’s an aspect of this discussion that I think needs more highlight:  Corporations are usually known by the “company” they keep.
If any in corporate America truly wish to be known as “family friendly”, I’m curious to why they don’t promote their more virtuous lines more?

Consider this:
I’ve heard that Disney is morals “neutral”: They allow groups of all stripes to use their facilities.  I’ve heard they even host Easter Egg hunts.  Fine.  They also allow and sometimes promote gay pride days, including parades right down Main Street.
I also use Barnes & Noble quite a lot; I’m a die-hard bookworm.  I’ve found numerous great books there.  Augustine, Benedict, Robert Jordan, others.  Wonderful.  ..I’ve also found definite pornography, both in the books and in the magazines.

Now Apple is, well, tolerating, something that mocks Confession.  I assume they’re also making money.  Hmmm…  By the way, they also removed a reasonable app from the Manhattan Project…

If these companies are so virtuous, why haven’t I heard much about the good stuff they carry?
..And why are they so defensive and insistent about defending the garbage?

What values do they REALLY live by?

There’s “ample cause for concern” over many of the anti-Apple and judgmental attitudes shown on this forum.  It’s not the teaching of the Church that Apple has “exercised poor judgment” or that their actions have been immoral.  People can have different opinions but morality is not decided by popular opinion or boycotts.  Perhaps if the Manhattan Declaration people had developed and categorized their product as a “game” and “entertainment” like Penance it might be treated like a game/entertainment and given a pass (or rejected as being miscategorized).  Apple has no “Religion” category in its iTunes store.

A very good question has been asked: Why don’t we hear much about the good stuff they carry?  It’s because fallen man refuses to see the good, the healthy and the beautiful.  Instead, he goes on whining, like the hungry man who sits beside the tasty dish, and instead of stretching out his hand to satisfy his hunger, goes on lamenting.

Another good question:
Why do people see “judgementalism” in this commentaty?
Because they refuse to see contempt for the Church’s belief and practice.

Perhaps if more would be “judgemental”, Apple and others would have reason to screen more effectively for decent morals in general.
I quit looking over iTunes long ago precisely due to their pop cultural rubbish.

Apple’s published rules for apps plainly state: “If you run to the press and trash us, it never helps.”  They also state, “Apps that contain false, fraudulent or misleading representations will be rejected.”  The Manhattan app violated that rule.  As such, it was “offensive” or “likely to expose the targeted group to harm or violence”, which again, violated yet another of Apple’s rules.  For example, the app claimed that support of “same-sex relationships” is wrong, but in reality, the Church does not teach that support of same-sex relationships is wrong.  Sexual acts between persons of the same sex and same-sex relationships are not the same thing.  There are many same-sex relationships, including even between homosexual persons, which are moral and should be supported.  In short, whether it was opposition to “same-sex relationships”, “right of choice”, “separation of Church and State”, the many meanings of the word “marriage”, luring people to take a bogus test by calling it a “survey”, and other matters, there are quite a number of essential distinctions that the Manhattan Declaration app either got wrong, distorted, neglected or blurred over, which would mean it was a “false, fraudulent or misleading representation”, not to mention denigrating other people’s religions (including Catholicism, for the Manhattan Declaration app was not Catholicism any more than a false, fraudulent or misleading representation can be Catholicism). Meanwhile, the Penance game is presented as a game and entertainment, not as genuine religion, and to those who opine that it “mocks confession”, Apple’s rules state that “humorists are exempt”.  Other people opine, with good reason, that it does not mock (i.e. deride) anything, although you might choose to do so in playing the game just as you might choose how to behave in any circumstance.  The game, however, is not responsible for your behavior.  It’s been noted that the Manhattan team attempted to appeal Apple’s decision on the basis of diversity (“Given that there are 300,000+ apps available, it is surprising to us that [our app didn’t make the cut]”) and popular sentiment (“views that millions of Americans have in common”) when their own Manhattan Declaration does not follow those principles.  The Manhattan spokeswoman added, “It’s just appealing to things that people want to come together on, that millions of Americans agree on.”  But she didn’t bother to mention that millions of Americans also agree that the Manhattan Declaration is bunk.

Many humorists and millions of others also insist that morality is bunk and that entertainment can be happily crass and despicable.

The only problem Apple had with the Manhattan app was that gay activists hated it.  Otherwise, the app would’ve been left on the site.

Christian churches don’t teach happy indifference to contempt.

They tried to resubmit the Manhattan app, removing some of the content that had been exposed as dishonest, but it was like bleaching a leopard and trying to pass it off as a pussycat.  They hoped millions would fall for it but it didn’t make it past customs.

Curious to know what Apple considered “dishonest”?
I signed the original statement; the only thing “dishonest” was it’s intolerance for gay marriage.

Perhaps you’re confusing the manifesto that people signed with the app.  They’re not the same thing.  The app would claim to be doing a survey and then after you answered the survey questions you’d be told “SURVEY COMPLETE! x%, You answered x out of x questions correct.”  But answers that were in fact correct would be counted as incorrect, and answers that were incorrect would be counted as correct, all depending on whether you gave the rightwinger response it was looking for.  And it would claim there’s no such thing as separation of church and state, even though Archbishop Chaput (generally considered a rightwinger himself) says “Catholics do believe in a separation of Church and State. We don’t like the State to tell us what to do. We don’t want the State to tell us to be quiet. And we don’t think that we have a right to impose our Catholic views on our government. So we believe in a separation of Church and State. But we don’t believe in a separation of faith and politics… So we should always say ‘Yes, separation of Church and State but not separation of faith and politics’.”  Anyway, the distorting rightwing propaganda app with its test masquerading as a survey and the vague manifesto that people sign are not the same thing.

Ah.  Heaven forbid that we should be “entertained” by the actual Constitution or what His Excellency aimed at.
Can’t have that now, can we?

PS.  Can you cite the quote you provided?  What was the context?

“Fallen man”?
“Whining ...like a hungry man…”?

No.

This application is clearly mocking the sacrament of reconciliation. It’ not whining when you defend what you believe in. It’s the lukewarm, non-confrontational, laissez-faire Catholics like you that have helped create these problems.

Listen - the gay community is an infinitesimal minority - yet they wield a lot of clout.  Why? They are loud. They are strident. They don’t ignore the slightest possible challenge. Other fringe groups are using the same tactics with the same militant organization.

Catholics in America? A lot of us - maybe most of us - don’t even know how to spell the Magisterium let alone understand and follow it. No, being Catholic is just going to Mass every Sunday…if that… doing the ‘communion thing’ and the ‘confirmation thing.’ Godparent? Sure - it’s just an honor right? No responsibility.

I wonder how many of the posters who are Catholic are defending this app because it might be the closest thing to reconciliation with the Blessed Lord many will ever bother to attempt.

As to the Apple ‘rules’ - fine. I am encouraging people not to do business with them until they treat Catholics with the same respect they have for other groups. If they don’t want criticism, maybe they need to be responsive to complaints.

I cite the quote as precisely transcribed from a privately recorded (for later publication) interview he provided immediately prior to the ‘08 elections.

OK, where do we find this interview?
I have a strong suspicion that his comment didn’t mean what you think.

As Tully says (De Invent. Rhet. ii), suspicion denotes evil thinking based on slight indications, and this is due to three causes. First, from a man being evil in himself, and from this very fact, as though conscious of his own wickedness, he is prone to think evil of others, according to Ecclesiastes 10:3, “The fool when he walketh in the way, whereas he himself is a fool, esteemeth all men fools.” Secondly, this is due to a man being ill-disposed towards another: for when a man hates or despises another, or is angry with or envious of him, he is led by slight indications to think evil of him, because everyone easily believes what he desires. Thirdly, this is due to long experience: wherefore the Philosopher says (Rhet. ii, 13) that “old people are very suspicious, for they have often experienced the faults of others.” The first two causes of suspicion evidently connote perversity of the affections, while the third diminishes the nature of suspicion, in as much as experience leads to certainty which is contrary to the nature of suspicion. Consequently suspicion denotes a certain amount of vice, and the further it goes, the more vicious it is.

Boycotting Apple over this and switching to Android (any “Droid” smartphone) will not work as pretty much every popular iTunes Store app for the various iStuff is or will be available in the Droid App Store. The only thing that leaving the iStuff for Droid that would makes sense is that there is no censor for Droid apps, except yourself. So the various Catholic and politically conservative Droid apps won’t be pulled.

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Posted by Sue on Friday, Jan 14, 2011 12:59 PM (EST):
@ Everyone: I know this has nothing to do with the subject but:
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Then why did you post it on this discussion? 

I agree with you that this (the sanctity of life) is one of the most important issues of our time.  Why didn’t you post this to a pro-life article or forum?

OK.
I have a healthy inkling that Archbishop Chaput’s comments aimed to explain how we don’t wish for the State to tell us what we may believe, but we do wish to exercise influence in how the State behaves.

That’s not what the Church/State separation crowd usually means.

Just sent my comment to Apple.  I asked them nicely to stop selling this application - I even said “please”.  ;-)

The Android product allows porn sites and the Apple doesn’t. Neither is good, now.

@Vice Squad,

Since Jesus has shown a lot of suspicion toward the Pharisees, scribes and other equivalents of our chattering classes, what does that make Him in the opinion of your Cicero and Aristotle?

I’d say it was St. Thomas Aquinas, not Cicero and Aristotle.

The quote is possibly from the Angelic Doctor but the text mentions both Cicero and Aristotle. By choosing this particular fragment, and taking it out of the context as well, Vice Squad makes it an instrument of his own point of view, hence my question.

Apple has consistently shown an antagonism to Catholics as well as other Christians and believers.  Considering the hippie origins of its founder this shoul surprise no one.  It was also a major pusher of the anti-proposition 8 campaign in California.

  If you give money to applie you are funding campaigns against marriage, morals and life.  There comes a time when one has to put righteousness above convience.

Hieronymus, where did Vice Squad mention Cicero and Aristotle?  I see them mentioned in your post, but there’s no mention of Cicero and Aristotle in the post by Vice Squad, which by the way, looks to me like a meteorite that hit you on the head and you’re not seeing straight.  Perhaps if you see it in that context, maybe it will help your recovery.

Just a thought:
If someone were to write an app that offered a quiz on the Catechism of the Catholic Church, would Apple allow it in their store?
Given their recent behavior, I’m not sure…

Would the quiz obsess about gay people and same-sex marriage like the Manhattan Declaration did?  Given the behavior of some Catholics, I’m not sure…

@Ron,

Obviously, you don’t have the benefits of good education (and even getting hit by a meteorite on the head is not going to improve your lamentable ignorance). Who do you think are Tully and the Philosopher?

Trudy (et al),
I understand quite well that the GLBT community at large is thoroughly displeased that the Church doesn’t change Her teachings or that anyone would consider promoting more traditional morals.

I regret, I quit believing anything about “diversity” or “multiculturalism” long ago, precisely because those who promoted it..NEVER lived it.  Anytime we’ve insisted upon a genuine understanding of these concepts, including an admission of traditional mores, we’ve been summarily dismissed from recognition.

Not to be too sharp about it, but…it’s old and boring.

You’ve had your say.
Now it’s time to take some responsibility and live a functional, adult life.

Hieronymus, though you speak of the “benefits of a good education”, it is possible you might be missing what Ron was pointing at.  I think Ron was suggesting the possibility that Vice Squad posted like a meteorite, and in that way Vice Squad no more “mentioned” Cicero and Aristotle than a painter who dumps paint on a canvas (or happens to dump an actual Cy Twombly painting on the floor) is “mentioning” Cy Twombly.  In other words, though it might LOOK to you like Vice Squad was “mentioning” Cicero and Aristotle, or the babble of a brook might SOUND to you as if it were saying something, what you make of it is your interpretation, your doing, and not the doing of Vice Squad or the brook.  Thus, what you make of things (e.g. “don’t have the benefits of good education” and “lamentable ignorance”) is intimately tied to your own reflection in the mirror.  It could well be that Ron has both a “good education” AND insight into this matter.  That’s what I see.

@Curatus,

Well, I hope you know what you’re talking about because I don’t. Are you by any chance a postmodern deconstructionist? That would explain a lot…

ALOW an app: Neutral, no biggie - it’s the case with this, just poor taste.
BLOCK An app: NOT neutral, you know what you’re doing and you’ve chosen a side.
Until the Android platform starts blocking stuff like the Manhattan Declaration, put your money where your faith. Or at least feel bad about having made a poor choice as far as the global culture wars is concerned.

Just did what John said - nice and simple - Thanks

I have sent the following e-mail to Apple at the address below;
I have removed my credit card info and will soon close off my account with Apple because of racist apps that are promoted through your online store. The application Penance, created by Birmingham, England-based Hasham Abbas and developed by Entropy Limited, is being made available directly through Apple’s iPhone app store.
Best Regards

http://www.apple.com/contact/searchfeedback.html

Although I agree that this app mocks the sacred, I pray that the ignorant may be enlightened to the reality of sin, and there is need for confession and forgiveness. Someone may be instructed. The sad thing is that the Church is ridiculed. However, I’m not surprised by this. Let’s pray with Our Lord on the Cross, “Father, forgive them, they know not what they do.”

iTunes also has this wonderful, free Divine Mercy app from the Marian Fathers of the Immaculate Conception

http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/divine-mercy/id410696366?mt=8

That’s wonderful. I surely hope there are more downloads of this Divine Mercy app! Blessings!

Looks like fun app, thanks for telling me about it!  I would have never known about if you hadn’t post your confusion here.

Thanks again!

Oh…. I forgot…. I’m downloading it now and will show it to all my friends, to get their feedback!

Thanks again for promoting this APP!

Sincerely,

Not Again….

About Not AGAIN:

It is true - one is born every minute…

Apple is owned by homosexuals. I wouldn’t support them in spite of what apps they carry.

One poster said “there are one billion Catholics”; he should have qualified that phrase with “professed”. We live in a culture that would make Sodom blush so we should not be surprised. The best response is prayer; it is most powerful, particularly the Rosary.

You should also consider the fact that clerical sex abuse, along with vocal dissenters to true dogma, many of whom wear a clerical collars, are in our midst. Enabling bishops who drive limousines and undermine the papacy, theologians who deny or dilute the resurrection, the existence of hell and on and on; this is a greater mockery than unbeliever can inflict. Our worst enemies are those who are within, the mockers should be ignored; only prayer will help them.

Benedict XVI admitted that we have enemies within in one of his speeches but did he do anything about it? The answer is no and neither did his predecessor. The Vatican II church has brought this upon itself to a large degree and the truth will come out in the end.

Do your best to live a sacramental life, pray the Rosary and the Divine Mercy chaplet, pray that as many souls be saved as is possible with God. Individual Catholics can boycott and protest but I doubt the fruitfulness of this.

You probably won’t post this comment because you are self-defined conservative Catholics who refuse to look at the sins and omissions of the hierarchy. After seventeen years of seeing Conciliar liturgical abuse, priests that were not punished until the media exposed them, lack of governance across the board (except when nuns are to blamed) has driven me out and I thank God for that.

You lack intellectual integrity just like the network that owns you and that network, I venture has become a source of great pain for Mother Angelica.

I have a thought on this, and it may be out of order, but here goes. Even if some download and use such and app, even those who are deliberately making fun out of sacred things, the app correctly identifies the 7 capital sins, and the importance to confess and receive absolution. It could be that later on in life these types may feel a real need, by the grace of God, to change their lives. They might even think about what Catholics have stated all along about confession. So, information about the sacrament of confession, even if it is presented mockingly, may sink in, and these types may, one day, even try to find a priest to confess to. Just a thought…