Lila Rose, while intending to do good, has put us all in a terrible situation.  What good does it do to call someone a liar, if you lied to them first?

None of us should use or reference any of the work that Lila Rose has done, except to corporately repent for lauding deception.

I’m grateful to Ms. Rose for being willing to put herself at risk to reveal abortion for what it is.  I hope she finds a better way to do that in the future.

“I hope she finds a better way to do that in the future. “

and what would be a better way? it is easy to criticize her methodology without offering an alternative

I have no problem with Lila Rose using a lie to expose the evil that is Planned Parenthood

I think everyone knows that PP is a government sponsored butcher.  But just like the unions, it pays to get political support.  And Harry Reid and the Democrats at the Senate are doing just that as they oppose defunding PP. Obama and his people have videos attesting to their unconditional and unwavering support of Planned Parenthood.  So, what do we do if face of such brazen and unabashed evil?

In the Main Stream Media It’s called undercover journalism and it is widely accepted when it attacks the right.

Kudos to Lila again. Brave young lady, who expose herself to the world without fear of it. Only fear of God, the beginning of wisdom. PP is the liar here, has always been. The best part of the video was something like: “Mammograms? Nop, not us! We just kill babies, sorry… You may try calling that Christian Hospital over there, they are the ones concerned about saving lifes…” Not exactly these words, but exactly this meaning.

Any police sting operation which busts drug dealers and organized crime uses deception to round up the criminals or to get them to come together in one place. I wouldn’t call the police liars in that situation.

This re-enforces the oxymoron that is Planned Parenthood - there is no planning and there is no parenthood.

Del Rayva wrote: “Lila Rose, while intending to do good, has put us all in a terrible situation.”....Are you kidding me? This just doesn’t make sense. If you are working undercover, as stated above by police, CIA, FBI or whatever, you pose as a drug dealer, prostitute, terrorist, etc…..WHY?....to get the BAD guy off the street and protect citizens and SAVE LIVES. The real liars and murderers are Planned Parenthood! I applaud Lila Rose, Susan B Anthony and others who are working to stop the funding to PP. We should be asking : Why is Harry Reid and the Democrats willing to shut down the government before they will defund PP? Why is Obama going to veto any bill that includes this? Here’s another question….why is Susan G Komen giving lots of $$$ to PP since they DON’T DO MAMMOGRAMS? Susan G Komen “for the cure”......another liar! Wake up Catholics.

Let’s not get into the Lila Rose debate in this column - Please!  Mark Shea went around and around (and around) this very same issue.  Check him out about it and then decide about Lila Rose.

BUT - what do about this information?  If you are blessed to have a pro-life or even just decently moral state representative call and ask them to begin the process of drawing up legislation to have all abortion clinics licensed and monitored as an out-patient surgical facility! 

We are blessed to have Nancy Jacobs in Maryland who just did this in Maryland.  This came as a result of the horror of the botched late term abortions here.  She created legislation which will be brought forth next session.  As a result the state health department has stated it will begin the process to have clinics inspected and reviewed. 

It won’t stop PP but it wil reduce the level of secrecy and lies and, hopefully, saving a few lives in the process.

The latest video does not include any “sting” tactics. The woman calls up Planned Parenthood offices and asks them if she can get a mammogram there. The answer is no. That’s it. It’s a great video, IMHO, the kind of thing that ought to win awards. But it won’t. Regular news organizations ought to be doing this sort of thing, but they won’t.

Excellent point Gail.

And BTW, I hate to disagree with you but in this case I must. The reason Samantha said “this is a surgical facility” is obviously because Lila Rose called a Planned Parenthood abortion center. Samantha immediately refers her to the local Planned Parenthood “health center” (which doesn’t seem to offer much in the way of services). So she was not speaking of the organization as a whole, but of the literal abortion facility that Lila Rose called. Now, that said, it is ridiculous that the person who answers the phone does not know what services are offered at the “health center”—they are obviously not expecting anyone to call for health care! That is a story in itself, But as far as I understand it, a common model for PP is to provide abortions at a dedicated facility and all other services at offices. So this is a mere statement of fact, not an admission of any sort about Planned Parenthood itself.

So what does the Komen money given to Planned Parenthood provide?  What about an increased risk of breast cancer in women who’ve had abortions?  Komen, wake up!

I wish Planned Parenthood would just change its name to really reflect what it is. Abortions R Us? The Abortion Factory? There are too many possibilities to list them all. It’s waaaaaaay past time this sham of a “health organization” was defunded.

Less than 5% of PP’s budget is used for abortions, if you look at their financials you can easily verify this. They provide a wide range of health services where no one else can/will. If we really had natioanl health care PP would no longer be needed.

@Rick -

Really?  You want us to believe their financials?  Have you read about their failed audits in Washington State and other places?  You realize they aren’t regulated or even visited by health departments? 

As for the claim they provide services no one else will, have you checked your local Health Dept. or even hospitals?  Many provide free or near-free access to many services such as mammograms, vaccinations, even access to birth control. 

Make no mistake PP is in one business and one business only - providing abortions.  Anything else they do comes way down their list of priorities and acts as mere window dressing to convince people to still support them.  Check out “Unplanned” by Abby Johnson, a former PP employee for a real story.

@Rick:    Slaughtering infants is not health care !  Our health care system is the best in the world & we don’t need the one jammed down our throats by the Muslim-Communist in charge !  The party of death is of course exempt as is all their socialistic union backers.

Re:  “If we really had natioanl health care PP would no longer be needed.”

Indeed PP won’t be needed; because, it would become part of the Dept. of Health and Human Services with the national health care system.  And that is an evil to be repaid in hell.

Any law may be broken to save a life. I read no deception in Lila Rose’ work. Lila had a question and asked it. Lila Rose is the voice of the unborn. The unborn were simply asking if they will be aborted? The unborn were simply asking if they will be sold into sex slavery? The unborn, our constitutional posterity, were simply asking and Lila Rose spoke for them. It is called POWER OF ATTORNEY, so, those so quick to cast stones need to look to themselves and their motives.
Justice is predicated on intent. That Roe v. Wade INTENDS TO KILL the person in the womb is judicial homicide. The Supreme Court has no business redefining the personhood of the human being, created equal and endowed with unalienable right to LIFE. Codifying fetal homicide and continuing the tax payer funding of government subsidized fetal homicide is the mark of our times, and it all started with the redefining of the Person of God and will end with the redefining of the personhood of every man. Man has the sovereign dignity of a child of God. Man’s sovereign authority authorizes government for the common good. If man’s sovereign authority authorizes government to murder us, government needs to be defunded, completely, permanently and immediately.

Planned Parenthood provided over 300,000 abortions, but facilitated less than 1,000 adoptions.
as for abortions accounting for only 5% of their business, that is statistical deception. they are counting every pill, condom etc handed out. in order to reduce abortions to 5% of their business

as for PP health centers check out their website here to see what services are offered where
http://www.plannedparenthood.org/health-center/

Heard about the noon-1pm anti PP rally in front of all clinics today from WETN.  I went to see.  No one praying. 

Decided to put my money where my mouth was.  Went in and gave some money.

Abortion is legal and safe. Exactly why some American churches worked for it in the 1970’s. 

“Lying for Jesus” like Lila did, or calling the PP bookkeepers liars comes close to “bearing false witness”. 

Just sayin,

Rover,
Babies ar dying.  Women are dying.  PP is lying about the services they offer.  This is a war.  And last I heard, spies are considered pretty valuable in a war.  Thank God for Lila Rose.  She does her job and no one gets hurt.  Oh.  except Planned Parenthood.  But they did it to themselves.

@Rover Serton what Lila Rose and others are doing CANNOT be called evil except by the morons on the left…the Catholic Church NEVER (other than a few misguided in name only Catholics who DO NOT represent the Church!) “worked for it in the 1970’s.” as you have stated.  Faithful Catholics have never excused, approved, tolerated, accepted, enabled or any other term that applies here…as stated only misguided in name only Catholics.  abortion is NOT safe and just because it is legal does NOT make it moral…there is a higher law to be considered.

Hey Matt! Great article! I thought of that very statement too when the woman said “surgical facility” and I wondered why more attention was not paid to it. I’m happy that you are bringing it to light here.  My prayers go out to Live Action in thanksgiving for their hard work. I hope she has much more up her sleeve because this battle is far from over and we need her diligence!

I find nothing wrong with what Lila Rose and Live Action are doing.  Programs such as 48 hours, 60 Minutes, and even the mainstream news sometimes do undercover work with hidden cameras and have exposed illegal activities by what most people believed were legitimate agencies.  The CIA and FBI do this all the time.  They are successful at uncovering “dirty rats.”  I think that the Health Department should do surprise inspections, I’m sure more Planned Parenthood “clinics” would be closed down.

I’m not sure anyone ever told Miguel Pro that lying was wrong.

In Live Action’s defense, as far as I know, this didn’t involve lying as a strategy.  They just called up and asked “Do you do mammograms?”  Apparently, a couple of times the caller added a (completely unnecessary) lie that they wanted to schedule a mammogram.  But, of course, they could have easily resolved that by going and getting a mammogram.

The point, as Live Action itself has just proven, is that all the people who were wringing their hands last month about how we could ever hope to defeat Planned Parenthood without recourse to Lying for Jesus have been proven wrong—by Live Action.

Have you ever seen the TV show “Bait Car”, where the police place a specially rigged car in a high car theft area to tempt car thieves? I wonder if anyone doubts the police’s integrity for doing such a thing? I don’t.

Me neither, for the obvious reason that leaving a car sitting somewhere is not lying. Give a false name, occupation and purpose is.

Enough of the sanctimonious fault-finding with Lila Rose. She didn’t do ANYTHING wrong.  God bless her for uncovering the truth.  Theologians just as smart (better?) as you have argued that what she has done is not only acceptable, but good.  You who fault her are the problem.  I’m wondering if you’re not a PP plant!!

Therese:

As Rover makes clear, people who support PP don’t generally hide their views.  Instead of stupid accusations and conspiracy theorizing about “plants” why not consider the possibility that some people are concerned about lying because it is a) “by its very nature” wrong (as the Catechism says) and b) that it gives aid and comfort to people like Rover, who use it as a weapon to attack the prolife movement.

It is also, as Live Action just showed, unnecessary.  So why go to the mat defending something the church tells us is wrong by its very nature?

Live Action just did a good thing with its latest sting.  And they didn’t lie to do it.  That’s worth celebrating.  Looks like they may be learning from their mistakes.  Would that comboxers could.

Earlier, Rover commented in part: “Abortion is legal and safe. Exactly why some American churches worked for it in the 1970’s.”

To which Maria replied in part, “Rover, babies are dying. Women are dying.”

To which I reply: Maria, you would think that intelligent people would get that: that procedures as violent and unnatural as abortions really aren’t healthy for women, and certainly not for the infants.

Any unbiased observer would get that. And even pro-aborts like Rover and realize that abortion is unhealthy for women and for children - although they would rather die than ever admit such a thing. The important thing in their mind, however, Maria, is that easy access to legalized abortion is imperative to the continued sexual freedom of the males who impregnate those women who ultimately destroy their children in utero (so that the males need not face the financial and legal consequences of having fathered the child), and it’s imperative to the success of the welfare state. The welfare state cannot function if there are too many disadvantaged children born who need to be cared for at the public expense - the entire system would soon go bankrupt and belly up. As many children to be born into disadvantaged circumstances - and onto the public dole - as possible must be snuffed out. Hence the second necessity of abortion.

Who really cares that abortion damages and kills women, and destroys children? Abortion is good for men’s sexual freedom and it’s good for the welfare state. And that, Maria, is what really matters. We just need to keep our sights fixed on the right priorities, and all will be well.

There is lying, and then there is acting.  These kids are actors.  Some actors are so good that the lines between themselves and the characters they play almost disappear.  The people they represent are very real—those who would be preyed upon by Planned Parasite.  If they could truly speak up for themselves they wouldn’t need representation.
As they say, “That’s my story and I’m sticking to it.”