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I Want to Hear The Abortion Jokes

Wednesday, May 16, 2012 10:17 PM Comments (28)

"Newt Gingrich’s campaign is so dead, Mitt Romney wants to baptize it and Rick Santorum wants to put it in a jar and show it to his kids."

That's the joke that Jimmy Kimmel was going to tell at The White House Correspondent's Dinner. He didn't, but only because an ABC News reporter told him that it could "cause the room to turn against him."

Yup. Jimmy Kimmel thinks dead babies are funny. It's a ghastly ghoulish joke in which I see no possibility of humor. None. But that's why I wish he would've told it.

I don't want this topic of the sacredness of life to be whispered about. I want to see and hear what people actually think about things like 50 million dead babies. I want to hear where pro-aborts find humor in that. I think the more punchlines people hear, the more people will see the truth. And the truth is that many preople don't have any problem whatsoever with the destruction of human beings.

Kimmel's former girlfriend Sarah Silverman recently tweeted a picture of her stomach after she had a big meal and again later when it wasn't sticking out so far - like a before and after pic. She tweeted that she had a "quicky aborsh" or something like that. many were reasonably outraged that anyone would make so light of that topic. But I say, keep those "aborsh" jokes coming because in humor there's truth. And the truth is that many pro-abortion rights folks don't really think ripping babies apart in the womb is that big of a deal. In fact, they laugh at folks who do.

You know all the creased brows and thoughtful looks that pro-abortion rights folks give when they say their cliched favorite lines like "safe, legal and rare" or "I'm personally pro-life?" That's the real joke. And you're the punchline.

Abortions exist best in the dark. Abortionists prefer silence. I say let's bring the light. Let's have the conversation. If people knew what went on in clinics they'd turn away in disgust. And I think that most people would be shocked at the flippant manner in which many deal with issues like life.

Abortion is the conversation that pro-aborts don't want to have. At every turn they seek to silence pro-lifers, not engage them. The media and the Democrat party claim that there's a "war on women" in this country every time that a pro-life bill comes out of committee, never mind actually comes to a vote. But have you ever seen a real intelligent debate about this issue in the media?

No. You want to know why? It's because abortion rights supporters can't win them. And they know it. Earlier this year, infamously pro-abortion rights Marquette theology Professor Dr. Dan Maguire agreed to take part in an abortion debate this coming March.

But two weeks before the debate was scheduled to take place, Dr. Maguire suddenly backed out after learning his opponent would be the fiery pro-lifer Dr. Mike Adams of the University of North Carolina – Wilmington.

He didn't want none of that.

Not only can they not win the debate, pro-aborts typically end up sounding ridiculous and stupid. Remember when Rick Warren held that presidential debate in 2008. He asked Obama point blank when life began. Obama was forced to mumble that it was "above my pay grade." It was a dismissive response but it was one that he was backed into. What he really wanted to say was that he didn't give a darn when life began.

Remember when Obama spoke off teleprompter for about one minute in 2008? What did he drop on us? The "punished with a baby" remark. That's how he sees it.

Since then, it's been nothing but cliches and bumper stickers, even as the Administration attempts to force Catholic institutions to provide coverage for abortifacients. They stick to talking points.

The longer we allow the abortion debate in this country to be spoken in bumper stickers and safe cliches, we lose.

I want them to talk. I want to drag them into conversation. I want them to tell their abortion jokes. Why? Because then people will see how unfunny it all is.

When we see what they think is funny, we'll know what's not.

 

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I get your meaning… but I’m afraid of encouraging those folks to make light of abortion more than they already do.  That is already where this country is heading and I’m afraid what you propose will only make it more so.
Although, I know you have a point.
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One thing I’ll never understand is the oft-repeated statement by pro-‘choice’ types, “I would never have an abortion myself, but I believe it should be an option for others.”  That makes no sense to me.  If it’s not a good enough solution for YOU - how is it good enough for someone else?
Maybe that’s the beauty of the Catholic faith… so many things we know aren’t good enough for anyone. Catholics want the best of what God has to offer and we want the same best for everyone else.  Some see it as us pushing our agenda on others… but in reality, we just want to show them God’s best.
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It reminds me of a conversation with my aunt and uncle, when I perceived their comments about me hurrying up and getting married (something I’ve always wanted but could never seem to acheive,) as nagging… I said, “Why is everyone pushing me to get married when I haven’t met anyone?!  Their response… “Because we want you to be as happy as we are.”  Then I saw that it wasn’t nagging.

Sarah Siverman and Jimmy Kimmel will keep each other company in hell.

you’re fat

Jim: Let’s not let them drag us down to the same level.  I used to be “pro-choice” myself, so I know how they think.  In most cases people honestly think their positions are right—otherwise they wouldn’t hold those positions—and they have arguments that favor them that satisfy them, and sometimes they don’t see the inconsistency, or sometimes they don’t want to.  We should be praying for their conversion, not condemning them.

Here’s an interesting fact for the debate:  According to a recent study from Chile, legalized abortion has no impact on women’s health. http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2012/05/120510141909.htm

Doesn’t it seem strange that people who favor abortion don’t seem to stop and think that THEY could have lost their lives to abortion?  It’s as if they haven’t thought that far.  We should continue to pray for them, because one day they will have to deal with this reality and their fantasy world will cease to be. As we all age, there are ‘pro choice’ people leaving this life to appear before the Lord.  I can’t even imagine how it would feel to live in denial for years, then to have to explain their denial to the Lord. Yes, we are ALL sinners, but to defend killing the innocent for years on end makes me shiver, as well as makes me want to increase my prayers for these confused and often arrogant folks.

May the blood of Christ’s passion and the blood of all aborted babies stand between Barack Obama and his reelection.

Jim is misrepresenting the article - go there and see for yourselves.  In fact, it says that making abortion illegal does not increase maternal mortality.  This is contrary to the pro-abortion argument that making abortion illegal will lead to a vast increase in deaths due to back-alley abortions.

You wrote: “...Obama was forced to mumble that it was “above my pay grade.” It was a dismissive response but it was one that he was backed into. What he really wanted to say was that he didn’t give a darn when life began.
Remember when Obama spoke off teleprompter for about one minute in 2008? What did he drop on us? The “punished with a baby” remark.”
sadly yours is the first article I have seen mention those obviously telling comments about their chosen leader.  Actually I disagree your comment “the truth is that many people don’t have any problem whatsoever with the destruction of human beings.”  I think “most people” is probably more accurate.  The whole political system is so corrupt that defeat and discouragement have moved people to inaction and lack of concern.

JohnTheBaptist, you are all wet.

Excellent article, Matt, thank you!  It’s good to see truth written on a regular basis.

I strongly dissagree.  While I would prefer more honesty from pro-aborts about how they really feel, do not forget the old adage: “If you hear a lie often enough, you start to believe it’s true.”  If making light of abortion became commonplace, the lie that abortion IS a humorous topic would start to slowly infiltrate our culture.

It is better to guard against any and all such lies.

If babies are punishment, I’ll take ten, please! :)

I’ve always said that I love it when pro-abortion “comedians” tell abortion and dead baby jokes, because it totally undermines the whole “no woman wants to have an abortion, it’s the hardest decision she’ll ever make” diatribe that groups like Planned Parenthood loves to spew.

I get what you’re saying here, but I have to disagree.  I think you underestimate the power that smirking, mocking humor possesses in our culture to destroy almost any value or ideal.  Whatever you think of the Colbert Show, even critics must admit that this is where Colbert’s attraction and his power-to-convince millions of youth lies. Get people mocking a sacred cow (or here, a real sacred, human life) and they will dismiss it without a backward glance.

I agree that the topic should be actually discussed more, though like others I disagree that it should be done lightly and crudely.  There are a great many women and men who grieve their lost parenthood and suffer in silence—making jokes about their pain would only further isolate them.
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I understand your point, of course, but I would no sooner encourage jokes about the expendability of the lives of the sick, elderly, or disabled than about the expendability of the early human who waits for his or her first breath.

Posted by Helen on Thursday, May 17, 2012 5:50 AM (EST):
“Doesn’t it seem strange that people who favor abortion don’t seem to stop and think that THEY could have lost their lives to abortion?  It’s as if they haven’t thought that far.”

I appreciate your kind intentions re prayers, but your argument is not a good one. Some children might owe their conception to unwise drinking, but that doesn’t mean we should advocate drunken, irresponsible sex. Some children owe their conception to rape or coerced sex. Likewise we wouldn’t condone such behavior. Still, a person could say, if it weren’t for drunken sex/rape I would never have been born.


Of course I see the difference between avoiding an opportunity for intercourse and having an abortion to the woman involved, but to the child that was never born, it doesn’t make any difference. It makes no more sense for an individual to fret over the past possibility that he might have been aborted than it does to fret over the past possibility that mom might have had a headache on the night he was conceived—or for that matter, that his parents might never have met if it weren’t for that terrible boss that fired his mom from her job which resulted in her getting a new job where she met his dad.

I think prayer is the answer…and this link is one of the best
http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/stations-for-the-unborn/id524529199?mt=8&ls=1

Go to the comments on this post at Creative Minority Report to see Satan’s sense of humour. If not possession, then surely oppression?

@TRS:  ...Maybe that’s the beauty of the Catholic faith… so many things we know aren’t good enough for anyone. Catholics want the best of what God has to offer and we want the same best for everyone else.  Some see it as us pushing our agenda on others… but in reality, we just want to show them God’s best. ...

Awesome! :)

I sometimes wonder if my children would hate me if they thought I had aborted their older brother or sister.

Have you heard the comment, “If you don’t like abortion, don’t have one.” Now it’s “if you don’t like abortion, too bad: just pay for mine.”

cowalker:  I may have said it poorly, but my point is that those who make light of abortion by joking about it really don’t understand what abortion is, or at least seem unable to put themselves into the position of the helpless unborn baby receiving a death sentence. There seems to be a real disconnect, as such people look at the abortion issue only through the political lens or as a “right” rather than as THE *1 human rights issue—the right to life.  It just seems odd to me that they wouldn’t bother to consider that someone chose to end the baby’s life, and that the defenseless baby obviously had no say in the matter. I’m just saying that most likely we who are pro-life HAVE thought of the question, “what if it had been my life which was aborted?”  Much food for thought—but those who think abortion is acceptable won’t even “go there.”

Posted by Helen on Friday, May 18, 2012 6:49 AM (EST):
” . . . those who make light of abortion by joking about it really don’t understand what abortion is, or at least seem unable to put themselves into the position of the helpless unborn baby receiving a death sentence.”


I didn’t think you put your thoughts poorly, but you help me understand your thoughts better with the addition above. I still have to say that this approach would not resonate with any pro-choice people. I imagine most pro-choice people have imagined scenarios in which they were never born, but it does not induce angst. In my family we chime in when my father says “I should have stayed at Notre Dame and gotten my degree!” and say “Then you never would have met Mom and none of us would exist!” Should my father have stayed at Notre Dame and gotten his degree? I think this is a kind of useless question to ask, but it’s fun to reminisce about his choices.


An unborn embryo or fetus is not conscious of its situation and is not distraught that it will not be born. It does not have a fear of death.  Early in the pregnancy it would not suffer pain during an abortion. So how can I identify with this experience? It is nothing like the situation of a human who has lived for years conscious of the concept of death and who has experienced pain and who is living in the shadow of a death sentence.

 
It is impossible for us to deal with the continuum that is human development in a neat way.  Some people want to eliminate the complexity by saying that a zygote is no different from a baby in the womb at 37 weeks.  Others want to eliminate the complexity by saying that terminating a pregnancy at 37 weeks is no different from taking the morning-after pill. These examples are just manifestations of our human desire to make things simple. And I firmly believe that most people are far too sensible to fall into these simplistic categories.  Just my opinion, but I think we have to do the best we can individually on a case by case basis. There is no other sane and rational way to approach the problem.

There is no moral value difference between a human being a day after his beginning, conception or 270 days after. What is essential about humanity subsists at all and any biological stage of his life, regardless of his cognitive or other abilities. Any other kind of evaluation is not in conformity with natural law but reductive and utilitarian and means the weaker are subject to the whims of the stronger. Might becomes right. I can kill so I will.

@cowalker
it is obvious by your comments that you DO NOT consider the Will of God in any of your reasoning.  You try a purely (human from your perspective) rational approach to justify your decision to take the life of a child.  Most women who have had an abortion and regret it use the same logic… if this is your case I am sorry for you.

@cowalker

I challenge you to head over to YouTube and watch The Silent Scream video - Abortion as Infanticide/ Dr. Bernard Nathanson’s classic video that shocked the world. He explains the procedure of a suction abortion, followed by an actual first trimester abortion as seen through ultrasound. The viewer can see the child’s pathetic attempts to escape the suction curette as her heart rate doubles, and a “silent scream” as her body is torn apart. Make sure that you view the high def version.

Let’s hear what you have to say afterwards.

So, how many kids has your priest molested this week?

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Matt Archbold graduated from Saint Joseph's University in 1995. He is a former journalist who left the newspaper business to raise his five children. He writes for the Creative Minority Report.