Put this man in charge of help grooming the lives of our children.  Is this diocese out of it’s mind?

The vast majority of parents of Leo students are 1) not Catholic and 2) not paying tuition. Leo is across the street from Pfleger’s St Sabine. This is his core audience. It’s the Leo alums (who never never never fail to support the current students despite the school going from a fine neighborhood to the ghetto) that are more likely to not want him there than the parents.

Fr. Pfleger has been misrepresenting the Church for many years. He should have been excommunicated years ago.

The poor man wished he was black so he could be “authentic.”

But if he is placed with high school students, that too would be a bad thing.  I say “Good riddens to bad rubbish”.  And we must pray for his soul.

Is he gone yet?  The Church needs priests like that just like a hole in the head.

“Voice for justice”—what’s the job description for that?  Somewhat akin to “community activist?”

To paraphrase Keats, “Humility, thou shouldst be alive at this hour.”

He basicly is telling everyone that leaving the church is a viable option. Shouldn’t he just be laicized for that comment?  Priests get laicized for violating their vows of chastity, but what about obedience?  Is chastity more important than obedience?

This priest is a scandal, and I really do not understand a Bishop who does nothing about this. Why are our Bishops so weak? They need to act like MEN of God.

Hmm, he needs to be sent far far away - up in the mountains for a fifteen year long sabbatical.  Alone.

Looking at the video it reminds me of the mega churches here in Texas.  That’s not a Catholic Church.  And he’s not a holy priest.

This man is a disgrace and should have been forced out long ago. He has long dissented from Catholic teaching and preached his dissent from the pulpit. The reason he gets away with it is partly the weakness of the bishops and also because Pfleger is politically very connected and therefore a powerful figure in that diocese. We need more bishops willing to alienate every last parishioner if need be. We need Jesus with his whip!

I saw him speak at a Men’s conference well over 10 years ago and his message was powerful.  but that was before he started openly opposing Christ’s Church.  and then his politics overtook his faith.  very sad.

Keeping him in prayer. He is so consumed with serving himself and not the Church!

If he wants to be disobedient to his superiors, then time to laicize him. Then he can do what he wants (just not with the authority of the See of Peter).

He has forgotten the Vow of obedience,Shame on him
He should serve God not his bombastic self
He is no help to God or our Catholic Faith

Prayer for Fr. Pfleger and all priests:

O Jesus, our great High Priest, hear my humble prayers on behalf of your priests.  Give them a deep faith, a bright and firm hope and a burning love which will ever increase in the course of their priestly life.

In their loneliness, comfort them.  In their sorrows, strengthen them.  In their frustrations, point out to them that it is through suffering that the soul is purified, and show them that they are needed by the Church; they are needed by souls; they are needed for the work of redemption.

O loving Mother Mary, Mother of Priests, take to your heart your sons who are close to you because of their priestly ordination and because of the power which they have received to carry on the work of Christ in a world which needs them so much.  Be their comfort, be their joy, be their strength, and especially help them to live and to defend the ideals of consecrated celibacy.

By J. J. Cardinal Carberry

this is not a priest’s bootlace

get rid of him

too many weak cardinals today going to take souls with them to eternal flames

I’m willing to venture that Fr. Pfleger is a major cross to bear for Bp. Joseph Perry, whose vicariate includes St. Sabina’s.  I’ll also venture that Fr. Pfleger doesn’t think much of his vicar, who is a good man (I had the privilege of knowing him when he was in Milwaukee) and one of the trad-friendliest bishops in the country, if not the world.

I saw the video where he was mocking Hillary Clinton, and her certain looks more like a “pastor” in the protestant sense than a Catholic Priest.

Excuse me I have sticky fingers. Change “her” to “he”.

Fr. Pfleger has been allowed too long to do as he pleases. he’ll be in for a shock if he does leave the Church and try to take the St. Sabina complex with him.

No matter what the Bishop does (& I hope it is soon) PRAY for Fr. Pfleger’s deliverance. This human is clearly being consumed by many forms of evil. Pride is feeding on him & pushing him… Humility, the true knowledge of self, has been lost. Pray that he looks for and finds God again, so that he may find himself there as well, before it is too late.

I am sick of these primadonna priests and bishops who are destroying the church from within.  It is time to clean the ecclesiastical house from the Vatican to Hahira.  If they are going to be priests and represent the church then that is what they need to do.  I propose that most of these dissidents are too lazy or too immoral to be in the Church in any form except as members of a congregation.  Take away their bishop’s titles, perks, monies, ridiculous garb and fealty offered to them by the church members and what do you have…just another malcontent who, if working in such a capacity in most businesses would have long ago had their regal butts kicked to the curb.  Fortunately, I have met only a few of these dregs and have been fortunate to have been acquainted with truly Godly men; however, there are entirely too many still swilling from the churchly troughs.

This is insanity…..this priest has continued to seek out media attention for his heresy loaded “speeches”& outrages performances for tv cameras. Then there’s Fr. John Corapi..involved in a situation where he has been striped of his rights as a priest, he can’t even say Mass publicaly! He has been accused by an adult, middle age female of “priestly misconduct”. No proof, No criminal involvement at all. He’s a victim of character assasanation, & assumed guilty. I read today,some of his “brothers” are saying it’s his own fault for “speaking out” on his website!! I believe he felt it necessary due to the “Dallas” involvement, & well he should! The “Code” that comes out of Dallas, a place referred to by local Catholics as “the Lavender Campus”! A place where homosexual activities were so blatant, they became ready targets for all kinds of “media gossip”. Dear God in heaven, what a travesty!!!!

What’s with the pseudo black accent? Is this guy nuts? Get him out of the Catholic Church now

Fr. Pfleger has been looking for a way ‘out’ of the Church for a long time. IF he refuses the principal position at the high school, he will undoubtedly blame the Cardinal for everything, and leave.

Lori - the video actually shows him at a guest appearance at Rev Jeremiah Wright’s church, not St Sabina’s.

I believe Mr. Pfleger wants to have his cake and eat it too. Pastors are re-assigned after 6 or 12 years to prevent just what Mr. Pfleger has created at St. Sabina’s: a cult of personality (his).  The parishioners are convinced, after 31 years, that no other pastor could possibly lead them.  What happens when Mr. Pfleger dies?  Will they all walk away?

They worship Mr. Pfleger, not Jesus Christ.

That guy is freakin’ me out.

Fr. Pfleger is more Protestant then Catholic, and I’ll bet he can’t wait to begin his own church and have full control of the purse-strings—and a venue for this nutty hate-filled. anti-white, anti-Church, anti-mental-health screeds. how did this clown remain in the priesthood for as long as he has? Someone is not taking care of Church business.

I do not understand why bishops do not use excommunication on leaders and priests that are out of compliance with the teachings of the Holy Catholic Church! I was taught that exommunication is a way to bring “faithful” Catholics back into communion with the church. Jesus taught that we must love our neighbor and forgive our neighbor.  Black activist teach hate and vengenace.  They do not preach love and forgiveness. These men are not to be emulated.  Pfleger must have received very poor instruction in the seminary.

Let us not get boggle down with this issue , especially during the end of this Lenten Journey . Let us keep our minds on the fact ( we know God has a plan)  All nature is designedly progressive. Predestination and fore- ordination are scientific facts. ” All things work together” toward a divine climax. Nature follows an upward rotation- material - vegetable- animal- physical- mental - moral - spiritual - angelic. The rock lives for the soil. The soil lives for the tree. The tree lives for the animal. The animal lives for the man. The man lives for the family .the family lives for the child. The child lives for the race The race produces a civilization.And thus a new chapter in history written.
” For nothing walks with aimless feet
And not one life shall ve destroyed
Or cast as rubbish to the void
When God hath made the pile complete”
The plant dies that the animal may live. The animal dies that man may live. The body dies that the soul may live. The brain expands that thought may live. Thought struggles that affection may grow. And love crowns all , that character may endure forever.
Lastly , let us reflect on the Holy Spirit: the third person of the Trinity , proceeding from the father and the Son ( John 15:26) , and equal with them in power and glory. The original words are sometimes rendered ” Spirit” or ” Holy Spirit” ( uniformly so in the Revised version) from the texts.  John 4:16,17,26;  15:26;16:13 sq ; Acts 13:2,4;20:28;21:11 sq ; Rom 11:33 sq ; 1 Cor 2:19; 12:4-11, it appears that the Holy Ghost or Spirit is not only the personification of some attribute of God ,or of some effect produced by Him, but a literal person; and the same passages prove, to a certain extent, the divinity of the Holy Ghost .Furthermore,attributes proper only to the Supreme Being are ascribed to Him- as omniscience( Isaiah 40:13,14; 1Cor 2:10,11) , Omnipresence ( Psal 139:7; Rom 8:26,27; Ephe2:17,18), omnipotence ( Luke 1:35) eternity ( Hebrew 9:14) ; divine works are apparently ascribed to Him ( Matthew 28:19; Acts 28:25; Rom 9:1; 2Cor 13:14)
Peace to all !!!!!!

What more can I add to the comments, except: Come Lord Jesus and have mercy on us! +JMJ+

Pride comes before the fall.  What a sad state for all.

Like a parent, out of love, firmly disciplines a child so must be done with priests. You pull the child away from harm and sometimes accentuate the danger with a quick slap to the bottom or hand. They hate you and think you are mean but it keeps them from venturing towards that harm again. You ground teenagers and forbid them from participating in certain activities or you make them stop participating in activities because you are concerned for them and love them. They hate you and have a temper tantrum but it must be done to protect them. With a priest you must withdraw them from public ministry to protect them from even graver sins. Remember the bible tells us that it is bad enough when we sin but to lead others into sin is even worse and more reprehensible. We must pray for them out of love but also out of love bishops and cardinals need to be firm parents for they too must answer to God if they allow priests like this to lead souls into perdition.

I say let him go, he is in it for himself, we don’t need him.  So what are they waiting for so he can spread more false statements. I will certainly pray for his soul.

I pray for Cardinal George and for Fr. Pfleger.

Well, I blame the bishops that have NO credibility, as a group.  This is very sad.  I first heard of Fr. Phleger years ago, when he went to bat for his parish children, when the diocese decided not to allow them in a sports league, because the wealthier parishes didn’t want to have to go to his side of town, for games.  Fr. Phleger saw the injustice in it, and he spoke up.  It made national news.

Since then, I heard about how the ladies in his parish reach out to prostitutes - teaching them the Bible - and how Fr. P took on the tobacco and alcohol industry, each were a bad influence on his parish children. 

So——————- with ALL the AWFUL things happening to children in Catholic churches, AND with ALL the priests/bishops that kept silent about the abuse, AND the WEAK kneed males that are NOT MANLY -

I have to applaud Fr. P for speaking out for himself - and for knowing what he is good at, and what he’s not good at.  Let’s face it, bishops do not make very good decisions.  They remind me of the book titled, “Passive Men.  Wild Women.” - When someone is passive, it makes someone with smarts, go almost wild. 

Now with that said, I do not agree with ALL Fr. P has been doing - and I do think he’s gone beyond the pale, in terms of publicity, and in terms of straying from “the pack”.  He could do it better -

Maybe if they allowed clergy to marry (like St. Peter, and the rest of the apostles, St. Patrick’s grandfather, etc….) our priests that have GUTS and COURAGE and that are MEN, and not emotional man-boys, will make better decisions.  Fr. P has adopted children, if I recall correctly.  And from what I remember, his sons are good citizens, and contributing to the community, having had good upbringing.

While no GROWN child’s actions can be a complete reflection on any parent (look at God, with Adam & Eve) Fr. Phleger is to be commended - for stepping to the plate, and for being a MAN, and in the case of his adopted sons, a “REAL FATHER”.  Not a make-believe one.

How come so many Catholics give grace and mercy to priests that molest, and to bishops that covered it up, and in THIS case, so many show NO mercy at all?

Born Again Cradle Catholic stated, “Maybe if they allowed clergy to marry (like St. Peter, and the rest of the apostles, St. Patrick’s grandfather, etc….) our priests that have GUTS and COURAGE and that are MEN, and not emotional man-boys, will make better decisions.”

Hmmm….. so Jesus, Paul, St. Edmund Campion, Ignatius Loyola, Francis Xavier, and Maximillian Kolbe were gutless and lacked courage.

You’re way off base, BACC. 

If you’re out for your afternoon troll, please troll elsewhere.

This is the priest who made up his own “mass” last Holy Thursday - had his own written script and everything.  He and the “eleven’ around him were all dressed in 1st century Jewish garb.

Liseux - I’ve spoken with you on other blogs.  It’s unkind to accuse someone of something that is not true.  You know I am indeed Catholic. 

Regarding Jesus - He is God.  He’s not an ordained clergyman.  I did not say *all* priests were gutless and lacked courage.  But since in the US alone, payouts to clergy abuse survivors topped $2.3 BILLION, it’s safe to say many priests, and many bishops, are indeed not as courageous as Fr. Phleger.  They are emotional boy-men that would do well to be married, allowing them to GROW UP. 

We can just assume if ANYONE - and I mean ANYONE laid an inappropriate hand on one of Fr. P’s little parishioners, or one of his children, and he knew about it, we would ALL know about it.  Right or wrong in the past, Fr. P has courage.  God bless him, for speaking out.  A wife would help him curb his tongue, and choose HOW to pick his battles.  Keep in mind that we only know what’s in the press too.  So - let’s believe 75% of what we read, in any newspaper.  Even secular newspapers.

Therese60640 -Newsflash:
Jesus and His apostles and disciples dressed in 1st century Jewish garb.
Your point?  I’d say if he brought his parishioners closer to the Lord, he did a great thing.  Let’s add “creative” and “enthusiastic” to his list of personality characteristics.  It’s more than I can say for most bishops.

BACC,  please note where I said you weren’t a Catholic.

A wife would help him curb his tongue and help him to pick his battles?

I bet the Holy Spirit would too.

This man is a Black Liberation Theologist, social justice, Marxist.  Why he hasn’t been excommunicated is beyond me.  He is certainly not Catholic.  In fact, I think there are quite a number of Marxists in the Church.  How very sad for us.

Liseaux - I misinterpreted it when you asked me if I was out for an afternoon “troll”.  Because I consider the Bible as the only *reliable* source for the Christian “Deposit of Faith”, I have been accused of really being a non-Catholic Christian, and giving opinions on Catholic blogs.

I have been told to “go home” or “come home”, & yet, I was baptized Roman Catholic at the age of 4 weeks old, and the last time I was at Mass was last Sunday.  God-willing, I’ll be at Mass this Palm Sunday.

Yes - a wife would help Fr. P curb his tongue and pick his battles.  The first thing God called “Not good” was for man to be alone.  He said it, I believe it.  And looking at the mess our church is in (and has been since the days of St. Peter Damian, when he too, was ignored for speaking out against clergy sexual abuse…) history shows God’s way is right too.

Maria Hain- Why is it that Catholic pew people resort to excommunication to handle their problems?  Jesus came for sinners - not to say, “Hey, you’re okay. I’m okay.”  Rather, He came to seek and save the lost.  He came to SHOW us our ways - and to encourage us to REPENT and to TURN TO Him.

While I had not heard of Fr. P’s Holy Thursday effort from last year, before reading this blog, if he was trying to bring his parishioners to Jesus, and to understand Holy Week, and what went into Jesus’ death and Resurrection AND WHY IT HAD TO HAPPEN, then I say: “kudos to him”.

Maria - if you were in ministry, you’d have no parishioners.  “Let he who is without sin cast the first stone.”  Even excommunication is not final.  It is a way to get a sinner to see where he’s wrong, and the intent is ALWAYS RESTORATION.  Always.  Always.  God wants us all to be saved.

Maria - read your Bible.  If only our leaders would PREACH PAUL.  Paul wrote 13 New Testament letters, and they *are* read in Church, but priests rarely, if ever, preach PAUL.  Romans is known as the Christian Constitution, by non-Catholic Christians.  Catholics rarely hear it.  I wonder if Fr. P preaches Paul.  I wonder if Fr. P READS Paul.  I hope so.

BACC, if the Bible is the only “reliable” source for the deposit of faith, then what did St. Jerome, St. Augustine, et. al. rely on to determine the canon of scripture at the Council of Carthage in 397 a.d.?

Fr. P. has already left the Catholic Church in his heart and in his mind.  It’s time for him to leave altogether.

I’ve never seen video of this man until today; but my first impression is that he is in need of some form of psychiatric help.

Liseux - “The Deposit of Faith” is the body of knowledge handed down by the apostles, and information must square with it.  Every Holy Spirit inspired person would be led into Truth.  God’s truth.

So the question is not “what” did Jerome, Augustine, et al. rely on.  The question is “WHO” did Jerome, Augustine, et. al rely upon.  The answer is God. God is the Author of the Bible.  God is the Author of The Deposit of Faith.

What has Cardinal George got against that High School?

He needs a spiritual conversion. He should be sent to a monastery for a 30 day Ignatian retreat or longer. Let us pray for all our priests. Satan is active in trying to destroy the Church by misleading her leaders.

Nancy- It is PRIDE that is destroying the Church.  The PRIDE of our own leaders.  Instead of structuring the church as it was left to us through the Early Church (see Acts of the Apostles, and Paul’s 13 New Testament Letters), our leaders are being misled alright, but by THEMSELVES, not Satan.

They refuse to admit that they, or some Magesteriums of times past, were wrong.  So Aatan and the other fallen angels don’t have to do much work to destroy our church.  The PRIDE of our own leaders is causing the church to self-destruct.  It’s been self-destructing, for years.  JPII put bishops in power for over 25 years, and not because they were “holy” men.  They just played ball the Vatican-approved way. 

Now, with TV news, the Internet, & immediate detailed communications (like the 24 priests in Philly and the trouble in Ireland) we pew people can see it all imploding.  God is uncovering what has always been there.  It’s not new.  It’s just been covered-up.  Accepted.  Pew people prayed, paid and obeyed, allowing the whole mess to foster to where it is now.

Many of these leaders lack Godly wisdom.  But because they are “brother-priests”, and the problem is so pervasive, each keeps the secrets of the other, so as to “save face” for the whole clerical institution- the clerical “elite”.  Bottom line: it is pride.  Their own pride.  We, the pew people, pay the price for it.

When parishes start to go under, and more diocese go bankrupt, and more individual leaders are arraigned on charges of neglect, then it will get better.  Maybe then, Catholics that choose to ignore the incompetence, will stop financially supporting a broken system that does not honor God.
When the leadership goes back to the basics: The Bible, and starts to structure a church like that in Acts of the Apostles, our church will become more healthy.

Until then, it will get sicker and there will continue to be no trust for clergy, and clergymen all over the map in terms of how they minister.