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MESSAGE TO CARDINAL: Shut Up, They Explained

Wednesday, May 19, 2010 12:32 PM Comments (30)

From Canada’s National Post comes this urgent message:

Stop the presses! Cardinal Marc Ouellet, the primate of the Roman Catholic Church in Canada, has created shock waves across Canada by ... reiterating conventional Church doctrine on the subject of abortion.

Now, it must be admitted that the good Cardinal was reiterating Church teaching on a point that is difficult for many to accept—that abortion is wrong even in cases of rape, that a child should not be killed for the crime of its father. Even many pro-life American politicians allow for rape and incest exceptions.

Mistakenly.

But the climate toward unborn babies is so . . . er . . . cold in Canada that the Cardinal’s comments have occasioned what the National Post refers to as a “freaked out reaction by many pro-choice politicians and pundits.”

How freaked out?

Parti Quebecois leader Pauline Marois said she was “completely outraged” by the Cardinal’s remarks. A columnist with Montreal’s La Presse newspaper, Patrick Lagace, said he wished that the Cardinal “dies from a long and painful illness.” Even Intergovernmental Affairs Minister Josee Verner—whose international maternal-health policies the Cardinal supports—declared that the man’s remarks were “unacceptable.”

The National Post thus asks a reasonable question:

When, exactly, did it become “unacceptable” for a man of faith to articulate his Church’s position on a controversial bioethical issue? Are there any other issues that Ms. Marois, Mr. Lagace and Ms. Verner would like Christians to shut up about? Gay marriage? Stem cells? Pre-marital sex? Perhaps they should make a list, just so everyone can keep track.

For years now, this newspaper and other conservative outlets have been warning Canadians that the trend toward liberal dogmatism among much of Canada’s political class—buttressed by an out-of-control human-rights constabulary—is serving to muzzle religious Christians who are doing nothing else than giving voice to their cherished beliefs. The appalling reaction to Cardinal Ouellet’s speech demonstrates how serious the problem has become.

Indeed.

While I hate to see our neighbor to the north playing the lead role for a cautionary tale, Americans also need to recognize that our country could go in the same hard anti-family, anti-faith direction that Canada has—if Americans don’t resist the same trends in our own culture that have seized the reins in Canada.

In fact, there has been a good bit of reins-seizing here in America of late.

Fortunately, there is an opportunity to correct some of this coming up in . . . oh . . . November.

What do you think?

 

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We are at least 70% of the way there right now!!! What do you bet we make the other 30% within 10 years?
Jim Roth

The first and imminent danger is to freedom of speech. Pope Benedict XVI speaks of Relativism: PC turns it into “toleration”, and ends in a situation of “don’t you dare say aloud what I don’t like.”
All the best!
Wendy

Good point, Jimmy.

I think Cardinal Oullet could also use our prayers.  In some ways, he’s facing much of what Cardinal Pell (then Archbishop) faced in Australia.

One man who reaches out to others can make a huge difference.  Surely, threre are a handful of Catholics who can still hear the truth in Canada.

Speak out!

And yes, I will be getting out the vote here in Texas for the November elections.

Thanks for all of the information you supply us with, Jimmy.

The Cardinal will be fortunate if he is not haled before a Human Rights Commission.  HRCs have condemned evangelicals who dared preach the homosexuality is a sin and tried but “acquitted” (after a long & expensive process) a small scholarly Catholic magazine for an article tracing the Church’s teaching about homosexuality.

For all the scorn that is heaped on the Church and the pro-life movement we should be grateful that we have one thing no other country has—the First Amendment.  Let us thank all the Rome-hating sons of the Enlightenment who bequeathed it to us.

There is a difference between what the progressive elites say about the climate towards the unborn and what the climate actually is.

Feminists lament that many doctors are choosing not to learn how to perform the procedure.

Socially conservative politicians are able to voice pro-life leanings, without fear of being unelectable and the government has declared that it does not consider abortion to be part of a woman’s reproductive health.

The progressive elites keep shrilly crying out that the debate is over, in the futile hope that saying it long enough will make it true.

If he is dragged into the HRC, what a great bully pulpit from which to evangelize.

Wouldn’t Canada look stupid also for dragging a man in for saying its wrong to kill a baby! 

Surely, the threat of jail shouldn’t shut up any lay person, bishop or cardinal.

I live in Québec, and I am one of the few, (but not the only) ones who both thank Cardinal Ouellet and support him.  It is tough in Québec to be pro-life and pro-family.  We have been doing our best to support him in the commetns sections of French-speaking newspapers.  Not an easy thing.  The rest of Canada is a tad bit more open.

And thank God for the National Post.  I hate reading Lapresse.  I just want to scream whenever they cover anything to do with religion or matters of life and death.

I just read that Canada will NOT adding any funding for abortions in their financial aid packages to foreign countries—Canada is doing SOME good things…

Canada tends to look down on the USA because we have the death penalty. Yet they are more than willing to let the rapist live and execute the baby that results from his crime. The baby gets to be butchered in the womb although he has done nothing wrong.

I do understand that a pregnancy resulting from a rape is a burden for the woman. However, that is no reason to end an innocent human life. Help her, yes; kill the baby, no.

I live in Montreal,.and am greatly impressed by Cardinal Ouellet.  We need to pray for leaders like him who stick to positions.  Other Cardinals can learn from his example!


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God Bless our Cardinal for his courage!  He is a fearless beacon!

I fear we tend more towards the mistakes of Canada and Europe daily. We need prayer, fasting, and to speak out against it with every chance we have by vote or contacting our representitives and reminding them that they are there for the majority not the minority. The problem is they live in a bubble like the Hollywood people do and can not see the real world that exists beyond their bubble. Great Evil is quickly taking over our land. We need change but not this change that will destroy our nation. The founding fathers said that our form of government that they started could not survive in an immoral society. If we do not change the course of things we shall soon see the truth of their words.

I think that an important underlying question - applicable to Canada the USA, AND the rest of the world - is: Have the good bishops been so quiet (negligent in their teaching duty?) for so many decades that people are shocked when they finally start to speak up?!!  This would never have generated this kind of reaction if the bishop(s) had been speaking out and teaching the truth all along.

Jimmy, you asked, “What do you think?”
What I think is – Catholics in our country are responsible for the “reins-seizing here in America of late” (the past 27 years) due to the bishops (NCCB/USCCB), led by Cardinal Bernardin, abandoning the unborn for the sake of saving the pro-abortion party. 
Doubt me? 
Then explain the reasoning behind Bernardin’s expansion of the term “Pro-life” to include “social justice” issues which was adopted by the US bishops in 1983 after his taking over the Chairmanship of the bishop’s Pro-life Committee on the condition of expanding the definition of “pro-life.”  You can read about it in a biography written by his life long friend, Eugene Kennedy.  It is entitled “Cardinal Bernardin” – “Easing conflicts – and battling for the soul of American Catholicism.”  The truth is that the so-called “social justice” issues were created and promoted by Cardinal Bernardin as being “prolife” to “keep the prolife movement from falling completely under the control of the right wing conservatives who were becoming its dominant sponsors” (pgs 243,244). 
I didn’t know the American Catholic bishops thought that there was something morally wrong with being a political conservative and pro-life until I read it in the book – Cardinal Bernardin – last year.  The bishops then had the gall to besmirch the only major political party that supported a Right-to-Life Amendment to the Constitution, adding a “Pro-life” plank to their party’s platform five years earlier, by implying, with innuendo, that that party’s position on these newly added “social justice” issues is not prolife, while the pro-abortion party’s positions were.  That gave cover to Catholic Democrats to remain registered in the pro-abortion party and vote for them. Thus the election of people such as Obama, Biden, Pelosi, Kennedy, etc, and the strengthening of the ACLU, and the further liberalizing of the courts. 

That was not the only political game Bernardin played in the American Church.  Besides introducing the “silencing” concept of “collegiality” within the Bishops’ Conference, he teamed up with key Vatican figures to get liberal priest elevated to bishop.  In other words, he stacked the bishops conference with people like himself.  Read the book, and you’ll discover that his life long friend, the author, makes it clear that Bernardin was very pleased with what he did, as was the author -—and the babies continue to be murder with no end in sight.  That is what I think - know.

What many people don’t consider - or aren’t aware of - is that a woman who has been raped may already be pregnant and the pill could cause a chemical abortion. In Connecticut, Archbishop Mansell was coerced into allowing the ‘morning after pill’ to be given to a woman who says she was raped WITHOUT A PREGNANCY TEST. Therefore, if the woman was already pregnant, a chemical abortion was more than possible.  And testing for pregnancy at that early stage is does not give good results.  The unborn baby could be a source of healing for the mother…I know women who have been raped and who chose to keep the baby that was conceived and found tremendous joy and blessings in that new little life…Cardinal Ouellet is right to speak out on behalf of life.  If we don’t stay alert, the anti-life forces will succeed in shutting out the voices of life…we have to pray and not allow that to happen.

Sam, it was Bishop William Lori, Supreme Chaplain of the Knights of Columbus that allowed Catholic hospitals to administer plan B: http://www.catholicculture.org/news/features/index.cfm?recnum=53823

The Canadian Bishops have finally broken their silence and the world will make them pay dearly for it. Perhaps if they had spoken sooner they would not have such a backlash from the world. Though they might have instigated a civil war and schism had they spoken sooner.

The Post Vatican II crowd (I mean the kind that haven’t read the actual text of the documents) has lost much of its power since the 80’s.

For forty years after Humanae Vitae, Canadians have lived under a time of silence from the Bishops. In the mean time the land has become occupied by sodomites and abortionites. Pray that we have the grace to remember that they are not our true enemies and that our true enemy is the one below who seduced them.

It is important to note, Mr. Atkin, that most of the backlash came from the Quebecois, whose province is particularly hostile to Christian morality and the Catholic Church. Be careful not to lump the rest of Canada with this unique province.

I do not know whether people realise now that there is a very concerted attempt by some forces in the West to work hard to destroy and wipe off Christianity from the face of the earth. Some dissident catholics and enemies of the Church are great help for this movement. It is time to be strong against this current. Our Bishops and the Priests should without fear lead us As John Paul said we propose and never impose. The word of God has to be proclaimed to the whole world. The word of God is contained in the teaching of the Catholic Church only. The importance of chaste life, the avoidance of premarital sex, the sacredness of family, fidelity to family life, the sinfulness of homosexual acts and samesex marriage etc are eternal truths and there cannot be any negotiation on them. As the modern secularism condemns the Church for its views and teachings, we should with conviction and courage uphold Jesus and His Church The Cardinal has done the right thing and may God give him more strength

We have to be careful to speak clearly and truthfully…‘the word of God is contained in the teaching of the Catholic Church only..’ this is not true. What is true is that the ‘FULLNESS’ of the Word of God is taught only in the Catholic Church; the Catholic Church contains the “FULLNESS OF THE FAITH”...yes, Bishop Lori allowed the morning after pill but so did Archbishop Mansell and other Bishops.  I’m not sure where Bishop Lori stands now re: the morning after pill but I believe Arch. Mansell realizes he made a mistake..

Blessings, to you stillbelieve. I always loved Cardinal Bernardin, his incredible qualities in the midst of ‘unfair personal crisis’, his amazing faith and of course his Gift of Peace. Now I learned of even more reasons to honor him!

Cardinal Bernardin, in my opinion, did not have incredible qualities…and it wasn’t an ‘unfair person crisis’...it was very credible.  And he help in his way to make abortion just one of many issues…so millions of babies continue to be terminated in the wombs of their mothers ... there were those who believed he supported the homosexual agenda even stipulating that when he died a homosexual group sing at his funeral…

And blessing to you - Sensus Fidei.  You expressed your “love” for Cardinal Bernardin and briefly explained why.  Then you closed saying, “Now I learned of even more reasons to honor him!” Would you mine sharing those “even more reasons” so that we, too, may understand why he should be honored?

Samwise, you have a different take on Cardinal Benardin than Sensus Fidei.  Where did your impressions of the Cardinal, who was the first president of the NCCA (later the USCCB) and later was hand picked to be the Chairman of the ProLife Committee, the most important bishops’ committee at the time, come from?

I am Canadian,thus American, for Canada is on the American continent,so Americans are in fact ;Chilians ,Brasilians, Argentinians,Panameans,mexicans and so many more countries
All this to say that I find A little pretentious that U.S. cityzens insists on calling themselves Americans as if they were the only recognise population in America.
Please don’t tell me that my view is biased by the fact that I don’t live in the U.S. of A,I worked and lived in your egocentric country for 8 years.
Anyway in the years to come the United-states dominance will fade away,already the economic leadership is no longer yours,China is taking over the world economic market and before we realise it they will be the world leader in every way you can think of…mark my words.
To get back to the original topic,cardinal Ouellet should make a clean up in his pedophile crew of priests rather than making retrograde declarations to attract attention on his supposably normal homosexuality.

Yes, China may dominate the world but Canada will always be America’s hat.

You self-righteous fool will never get the constitution changed, AND if you are against abortion in the case of RAPE, may all your daughters and wives be raped and get pregnant.
THEN WE WILL SEE IF YOU AND YOURS ARE REALLY THAT RIDICULOUS AND UN-EMPATHETIC!!

David, should not all unborn babies have the right to be born, grow up, and have the freedom to say what you were able to say, regardless of the nature of their conception?  After all, they are innocent of the act that was committed.  Why must their life pay for the sin of the rapist? If that conceived person were you, would you have prefer to have been aborted?

As for “empathy” of the woman, an abortion only compounds the torment of the rape.  Birth and adoption would be a better healing for her long term health, physically and mentally.

As for changing the constitution, it is not necessary to get it changed, it is necessary to get Supreme Court justices who will interrupt the Constitution as it reads, and reverse the unjust, inept, political decision reached by 7 of the 9 judges, who said amongst other things in their ruling, which overturned state laws governing the medical operation of abortion, that they don’t really know when life begins.  That is so ridicules that it’s laughable.  If they don’t know when life begins, how come Congress hands out hundreds of millions of dollars a year to Planned Parenthood to pass out physical devices to be used to prevent that moment from happening?

The debate could go elsewhere. What is life? A plant is alive? chicken? We fall now in dogma, dogma have no place in secular social politics.

F, the issue is about human life, not dogma, and the right to life in the US Constitution.  Your questions are a step in the right direction leading to the truth in this issue and the obvious solution, but you didn’t take them far enough.  Follow this.  The 14th Amendment says; “All persons born…in the United States…are citizens of the United States and of the state wherein they reside.  No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; NOR SHALL ANY STATE DEPRIVE ANY PERSON OF LIFE…WITHOUT DUE PROCESS; NOR DENY TO ANY PERSON WITHIN ITS JURISDICTION THE EQUAL PROTECTION OF THE LAWS.”

Now the question is: Does being born make one a person?  Dogs and cows are born; are they persons?  Is citizenship bestowed upon them?  No, of course not.  Being born does not make “a life” a person.  One must be a human being to be a person.  Since birth does not make that human being a person, IT HAD TO BE A PERSON BEFORE IT WAS BORN.  Therefore; his or her life has Constitutional protection according to the 14th Amendment.  That protection was unjustly denied the unborn by 7 of the 9 Supreme Court judges in the Roe v Wade decision.  And they denied it based on their bias dismissal of science by saying, “They don’t know when life begins.”  How conveniently they eased their conscience as they signed the death warrants of millions of human babies without due process.

This is not an issue about “dogma.”  It’s an issue about science, the US Constitution and an incorrect decision concerning both.

Isn’t the word “primate” used to reference a monkey?

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Jimmy was born in Texas, grew up nominally Protestant, but at age 20 experienced a profound conversion to Christ. Planning on becoming a Protestant pastor or seminary professor, he started an intensive study of the Bible. But the more he immersed himself in Scripture the more he found to support the Catholic faith. Eventually, he was compelled in conscience to enter the Catholic Church, which he did in 1992. His conversion story, "A Triumph and a Tragedy," is published in Surprised by Truth. Besides being an author, Jimmy is a Senior Apologist at Catholic Answers, a contributing editor to This Rock magazine, and a weekly guest on "Catholic Answers Live."