Apparently, the body of a newborn baby girl was found on the doorstep of a Planned Parenthood clinic in Winston-Salem, NC over the weekend.
Testing confirms that this baby Jane Doe was born alive, and some think that she might have been left on the steps in a mistaken attempt to make use the NC infant abandonment laws which allow for infants to be left at “safe” locations and taken into custody of the state with no questions asked. These laws are meant to protect the lives of newborn babies born to frightened teens or unstable mothers of any kind. There are no legal consequences for abandoning a 7-day-old or younger infant at one of these centers.
It is unclear whether or not this particular Planned Parenthood clinic is one of the approved centers participating in the North Carolina “‘safe haven” program. Either way, workers there apparently were distraught to find a lifeless infant on their doorstep.
Reed said this is the first time that a dead infant has been placed outside of a Planned Parenthood office in North Carolina. She said counseling was being made available to employees who came to work Saturday.
Did you catch the nauseating line above? Counseling is being made available. Because some Planned Parenthood workers might have endured the emotional distress of coming into contact with a dead baby they did not intend to come into contact with. The dead babies they produce daily in their clinic are fine—no counseling needed there—because those are dead babies produced by “choice.”
At least I think that’s their line of thinking. It’s hard for me to follow the “logic” here.
Jill Stanek had this to say:
But back to PP, why in the world would staff need counseling in the death of a born baby when they routinely abort babies into the 2nd trimester and not to worry, “can still help” mothers pregnant beyond 16 weeks with abortion referrals?
So had the mother of this dead born baby come to the Winston-Salem PP only one day prior for an abortion, the same staff would have helped her get one. The “counseling was being made available” was a line of bull. I’m confident in actuality PP does not want employees to explore their feelings about dead babies.
Precisely. If Planned Parenthood workers are emotionally distressed by the idea of dead babies, perhaps they should stop making them.
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Someone needs to show these PP employees the “Endowment for Human Development” on the internet.
It is not a religious organization, but teaches.
Using the latest technology, you can follow human development from the time of conception through delivery.
By 6 1/2 weeks hand movement can be seen.
PP employees have been murdering humans since they starting promoting and performing abortions.
Oh what an insane assylym we live in.
Maybe PP is upset because they didn’t get paid.
Thanks for the website recommendation, Ted. I’m trying to get my youth group to turn out en masse for our first-ever 40 Days for Life vigil at our local PP abortion clinic, and these images might help me discuss abortion with the teens. (Another abortion clinic in my state closed down following a 40 Days for Life vigil, and we’re all really hoping that God will ochestrate the same for the abortion clinic in our part of the state. Please pray for the success of our campaign!)
Not all PP offices provide abortions. So, maybe those office workers have plenty reason to be appalled.
True, not all PP offices provide abotions, but they all make referrals for abortion. Even in PP’s that do provide aboritons, a very limited number of staff actually sees the dead babies. I believe that if more staff members saw the dead babies, more staff members would be confronted and convicted by the truth of what is happening and would leave the abortion industry. The best way to fight against the evil that goes on in the darkness is to turn on the Light!
Just out of curiosity, I went to their website, and the Winston-Salem PP does provide in-clinic abortions.
@ Jack Perry: Not all PP offices provide abortions. So, maybe those office workers have plenty reason to be appalled.
If they do dispense birth control pills, IUDs, or morning after pills they are doing abortions. They just don’t have to see the actual product of pregnancy which is a human being.
I think it’s encouraging that PP employees are appalled. It suggests to me that they’re not callous, just uninformed. If they really SAW what was going on, (e.g. Abby Johnston?) they could make the connection and change their minds and line of ‘work’.
The truth hurts. They got to witness it in their face. Maybe this will change their hearts.
Why doesn’t your link work? Did the newspaper delete the article?
It doesn’t Suprise me you can’t find “logic” in that because you are a moron. Go find the Logic in Creationism. Find the Logic In a Stoning a woman to death like it says in you silly book.
An infant died because the mother didn’t want to care for it. She left the child at Planned Parenthood, not at the door of the Catholic Church. Did she not feel the Church would love and care for her infant? How sad is that, since the Church wants women to bear their infants and give them up for adoption. Maybe the real problem is the Church isn’t reaching out to these women.
Murry,
The assumption is that the woman thought the PP location was a registered “safe haven” location….not because she thought the church would not care for her baby.
Bill,
Jesus told the Jews “he who is without sin, cast the first stone”.
Perhaps you need to go and actually read our “book”.
I think that the logic escapes you .
Murray, does it *really* make sense to conclude that because the woman didn’t take the baby to a Catholic Church, that the Church must not reach out to women who are hurting or in a crisis? If you think it does, then I suggest you take Logic 101 at any university to see where your argument is fatally flawed. I know for a fact that the Church does reach out with loving help to women who are hurting, but it doesn’t force women (or anyone, for that matter) through its doors. The Church respects that God made us all to have free will, even if we use that free will to reject Him and reject His teachings.
I would suggest an alternative explanation to the one you proposed: Perhaps she took the baby to the Planned Parenthood instead of the Church because she blames PP for her having the baby in the first place. Perhaps she used condoms or birth control given to her by the PP, and it failed, whether due to her own fault or manufacturing defects. Or perhaps she blames PP for coming into her classroom and “selling” her on the idea of having sex at a young age, that sexual gratification is a good thing at all times for all persons. Perhaps she doesn’t blame PP at all: perhaps she took the baby there because she felt that it was a “safe” way to kill her baby, since they kill babies (albeit usually preborn ones) on a daily basis. Maybe she wanted to abort her baby after-the-fact, making sure the baby died instead of lived, as she might think it would have if she would have brought it to the door of a church or hospital. Who the heck knows? Maybe she thought that even though PP kills preborn babies, they would choose to save her already-born baby, even though she left the baby there when no one was around to try to care for it.
We really have no clue what was going through her mind, and we have no idea whether she is even aware of *God’s* existence, much less the Catholic Church’s, so we can’t conclude *anything* about why she chose not to bring the baby to door of the Church. The only thing I can conclude about the mother is that she’s probably really hurting in one way or another, and she needs our prayers and God’s love.
One issue not raised with these laws are what about the man who does not wish, or thinks, he can be a father. What would happen if he took the child to a Hospital ER and left the child there under the Safe Haven Law? Like a mother, would he than not be held accountable either for abandoning the child, or for supporting the child, financially? Would the mother not be allowed to retrieve her child, as a father cannot do so after the mother abandons the child under the Safe Haven Laws? Is this a possibility for fathers wishing not held accountable for a child to absolve himself of this, just as the mother can? What do you think America?
http://single_fathers_n_safe_haven_laws.dads-house.org/
Ummmmm….so they’re being offered counseling for finding a dead full term baby on their doorstep, which they were distraught about. But those little tiny ones, who are torn limb from limb, thrown in a bucket, and dumped in the “hazardous waste” trash don’t give them any qualms of conscience? My friends, we are living in the end times for sure. God help us.
I legitimately thought this site was a troll when I first stumbled onto it.
As a polyamorous, married, bisexual woman with no intent to breed, I feel perfectly content in saying that you guys are being judgemental, which is in direct conflict with the beliefs you claim to have and live by.
The same people you’re bashing as PP employees also provide PRENATAL care for women who wouldn’t be able to afford it otherwise.
A cluster of cells that isn’t “alive” unless it’s acting as a parasite isn’t a person. Even in the Bible, which you guys seem to fall back onto without fail, Adam wasn’t given life until he took his first breath from got himself.
From your own source, abortion isn’t murder. The parasite doesn’t take a breath from its own lungs, therefore it is NOT a person.
Who are you to impose your morality onto the lives of other people? You don’t know situations. You don’t know any of the people you’re condemning. You live your lives according to the doctrine of other people and refuse to even consider the fact that you could be (and quite often are) wrong.
I don’t plan on breeding because I don’t feel like I’d be a fit parent. I don’t want the responsibility, the heartache, the pain, and I’ve had three cousins die in labor. The idea of breeding terrifies me. Does this mean I shouldn’t have a meaningful relationship with another human being? Does this mean I shouldn’t get a healthy relationship with my husband and/or girlfriend?
Show a little compassion for other people.
What happened to “love thy neighbor?”
SUPPORT your fellow human beings, don’t condemn them without knowing them. Follow your own belief system properly, or get off the internet and go back to being bible-thumping blowhards where the rest of us don’t have to deal with your intolerance.
S.K., Planned Parenthood providing prenatal care does not mean they DON’T provide abortions. Doing some good does not detract from the intrinsic moral evil of taking an innocent human life. (And despite your claims, an aborted fetus IS a human life; personhood being dependent on aerobic respiration makes absolutely no sense.)
sk,what u r saying is that u r not being judgmental?Just because a baby inside a mothers womb cannot talk he doesnt have rights like the ones that u r talking about?May the Lord bless you.
In response to S.K. First let me say I am truly sorry your cousins had such tragedy bringing forth human life. Let me too, add: The breath of life God breathed into the nostrils of the first human being, Adam, was a soul, God’s life. Now, a soul is life, a soul is the form of the body. The human body will grow to be whatever the soul is, forming nostrils and heart. The baby’s heart beats at 20 days even before the mother knows she is carrying another person. The brain waves are measurable at forty days of pregnancy. Personhood is another attribute of the soul as is intellect, free will, reason, talent etc., all to know, to love, and to serve God. When the egg is fertilized by the seed; when man creates the body called procreation, God creates a soul at the moment of conception. The destiny of the human person is immortality in heaven with God eternally. Such is the dignity of the human being, body and soul from conception, through natural death and into heaven. The state endows a person with citizenship at birth but does not endow a person with sovereign personhood. The Declaration of Independence tells us that “our Creator” does. The sovereign personhood of the newly conceived constitutes our sovereign nation, our country, and is the standard of Justice, he,being morally and legally innocent at conception.
The soul of the little innocent found on the doorsteps of Planned Parenthood is safe in the arms of God.
Only God and maybe the folks at PP know the motives of the person who laid down that life to rest. Remember, God is the only one who has authority to judge. Be glad that baby is with his/her creator and is now living in a safe haven! As for Planned Parenthood, those who work for PP will give an account to God someday for killing the unborn. To those who are Intolerant of the Creator of the Universe and what he says in HIS WORD (The Bible) about what HE will do to those who take the lives of the unborn children who HE created, well - suit yourself and enjoy the the power you think you have by being “Tolerant” of murdering unborn children. However, remember - you will stand before a living God one day and have to give an account.
Lilly, some great words that I try to live by in the hard parts of my life:
“God will understand, and if he does not, then he is not God, and we have no reason to fear.”
God is all-knowing and all-wise. He understands everything. That doesn’t mean He agrees.
In vitro fertilization proves that the human being is present when the two become one and God creates a soul for the person.
@SK
so we can’t judge? We can’t judge and see the wrongness of the various attrocities man has wrought upon man. If we follow your logic nothing is wrong cause we can’t judge.
Refering to the human life in the womb is also innacurate. Scientiffically defined a parasite is an organism living off another whilst conferring no benefits to the host. The new life in the womb is not a foreigner (50% of its genes are its mum’s) and it is the beginning stage of the host’s (mum) pension plan. When does the ‘parasite’ transform into a child you love? SK, go grow in love, seek a more beautiful vision
should read: reffering to life in the womb as a ‘parasite’...
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