On Feb. 25, 1990, Terri Schiavo collapsed in her Florida apartment. Two years later, her husband, Michael, sued her doctors for malpractice, and a jury awarded him $1.5 million for the rehabilitation therapy he testified she would receive.
However, in 1993, Terri’s father, Robert Schindler Sr., had an argument with his son-in-law during which he asked, “When are you going to start the rehabilitation therapy that you not only promised the jury, our family, but, most importantly, Terri?”
The question infuriated Schiavo, who cut off communication with the Schindlers. Later that year, Terri developed a urinary tract infection, and Michael asked the nursing home to not prescribe antibiotics, which would have meant the infection would eventually have killed her. He did the same thing after moving her to another nursing home.
Then, near the end of 1997, Schiavo began efforts to have his wife’s feeding tube removed, which would lead to her death, following which Michael stood to inherit the remainder of the malpractice-suit money.
The Schindlers began countermeasures, which eventually brought the two sides into court in late January 2000. However, despite efforts by the highest levels of government, Michael Schiavo was successful in having Terri’s feeding tube removed in March 2005, which resulted in her dying of starvation and dehydration.
Register correspondent Brian O’Neel recently sat down for an interview with Terri’s brother, Bobby Schindler Jr., who subsequently founded the Terri Schiavo Life & Hope Network to honor her memory. The organization helps medically dependent persons with disabilities and incapacitated individuals who face potentially facing life-threatening situations.
It’s now 20 years down the road since your father and Michael fought. What is your state of mind right now? Where are you, in terms of your perspective?
I struggle with this daily because it changes for me every day. From the time Terri collapsed to this moment, it has been a constant rollercoaster ride of emotions. So, I don’t know if I have an answer for you for "at present."
I guess the easy answer is: I’m committed to doing whatever I can so people will understand this issue. For the death merchants, so to speak, Terri’s death signaled the end. For me, it was the beginning. I’m not going to stop until everybody knows the truth about what they did to Terri, how she was barbarically and inhumanely killed, and how others are being killed just like her. That’s my mindset.
Euthanasia is such a widely misunderstood issue. So much of our society accepts this way of “caring,” which means directly killing people who are being sustained by basic and ordinary care, food and water.
Understand: Terri wasn’t on life support. She was receiving what the Church describes as basic and ordinary care, food and water. She had a feeding tube. She could’ve quite possibly lived a normal life span if she’d continued to receive food and water.
Furthermore, people don’t realize other individuals with brain injuries are being killed every day because the laws now consider feeding tubes artificial life support. It enables medical professionals and families to take it away from individuals if they choose.
The majority of calls we get are from families who are up against health-care professionals who are trying to take away food and water.
So the typical case is not a family dispute; it’s medical professionals saying, “Let’s end this person’s life.”
Yeah, most of the time. It’s ethics committees, doctors. We do get family issues, just like what took place with Terri, but more and more, we’re dealing with health-care professionals.
When you say “ethics committees,” is that something akin to the famous Sarah Palin “death panels” (where a team of government bureaucrats would decide whether certain Americans — the elderly, people with Down syndrome and in comas, for instance — were deemed worthy of receiving health care)?
Very much so. As I’ve written, this concern about death panels in the future, they’re here now: in the form of these ethics committees. “Death panels” seems inflammatory, but that’s essentially how they act. When these committees make a decision, it’s rarely, if ever, on the side of caring for the person.
So, yeah, we have “death panels” now. And it’s only going to get worse with government-controlled health care and with people accepting [of euthanasia] as an act of compassion.
What are the most dangerous states and the safest states?
It’s my understanding that Texas is probably the worst state because of its laws. To some degree, though, with the way the laws are written, every state can put someone’s life in jeopardy.
Eight years after your sister’s death, are you still angry?
Well, yeah. Things do anger me, naturally. At the same time, our family and our foundation: We have a tremendous amount of support. My faith has gotten so much stronger. I’ve learned to put a lot of this in the Lord’s hands. And I try to work through him.
Our objective is to get to heaven, right? That’s what I try to keep in mind every day.
Are you still angry with Michael?
When I dwell on this stuff, it angers me. But I feel forgiveness. I pray. I include him as part of my daily prayer. But some days are better than others.
Would you say it’s a daily decision to forgive Michael, that it’s not a once-and-done sort of thing, but something you have to will?
Oh, sure. If Michael were to contact me, I would welcome it. I wouldn’t turn him away. I would ask people to pray for me to find peace in my heart, but also pray for him, that he has a conversion. How powerful would it be if he was out there speaking [for life]? It would be a witness to hear him say, “Look, I made a mistake. What I did to Terri can never be done to others, and I’ve turned my life over to the Lord.”
We have to pray, because everything is possible. And we need to pray for people to convert, concerning how we treat these individuals.
What sort of steps did you have to take toward coming to forgiveness? When did you realize this is something you would have to do, that you would have to work through?
It’s a daily thing. I didn’t like being attached to my anger. But it was also my faith. Hearing the Lord tell us it’s easy to love people who love you, but we have to love our enemies. Just those types of things. To get to heaven, I know I have to separate myself from hating people. I need to give any negativity to the Lord to find some peace in all this. It’s just kind of a process. It’s been a lot of work.
I will tell you this: I wouldn’t be where I am today if it wasn’t for my faith. There’s no way. I don’t believe you can find the forgiveness we need other than through Christ. I just don’t think it can be done.
For someone struggling with forgiveness issues, what you would counsel them to do?
Find a good, traditional, orthodox priest to counsel you. That would be a tremendous help, because the path to forgiveness and salvation are through our Catholic faith. How else can it be done than through our faith and through Christ?
What role did the Eucharist and the sacrament of confession play in your journey?
They’re the tools you need, and, without those tools, it’s not possible. I’m not perfect. I need to learn and understand my faith better; but, for me, I would be lost without confession and the Eucharist.
The more you partake in the sacraments, you see your life change. Once you put Christ at the center of your life and understand the need to replenish yourself with prayer and the sacraments, that’s the only way we can change these things.
How has this changed you?
I honestly believe this has saved me. All the focus of me and my family was to save my sister, when, in reality, God used her to save me, perhaps. The way I was living back then I was on the path to eternal damnation. How could I ever thank my sister for what she’s done?
How has this experience made you look at life?
I think of how precious life is, how many people are hurting out there, how our culture is declining more and more. It’s made me acutely aware of the shape of our Church. Things that were never on my radar, such as the sanctity of life, now are. I’m a sinner, and I’m not trying to judge anyone, but I see how globally lost we are. It’s made me realize how small I am and how big the Lord is.
What’s the worst case that you’re familiar with, outside of your sister’s?
There are probably a few. There’s a case in New York. A county there has taken guardianship over a woman’s husband, Gary Harvey. The county is completely mistreating this woman, Sara, and what they’re doing to her husband is just unconscionable.
In Arizona, a man named Jesse Ramirez, a war vet, got into a car accident. Doctors told his wife to remove the feeding tube. The parents went to court and got an injunction. A few months later, the guy walked out of the rehab center and was speaking with reporters.
What do you suggest for people who want to take action on behalf of life?
This is a difficult question, but I think, besides self-education, participate in events that will educate and encourage you and others to get involved.
Unfortunately, it’s tough. People are apathetic and don’t understand the issue. It’s also not one they want to confront. They look at a baby and think, "Yes, I’ll fight for that baby’s life." Then they see someone with a catastrophic brain injury. The first thing that goes through their mind is not to fight for them like they were a little baby. It’s, "Oh, I wouldn’t want to live that way."
Who would choose to live that way, if they could choose? Quite frankly, nobody would choose to live that way. But there are people living with these brain injuries, and they’ve just as much value and dignity as you or me. Just because they physically can’t do something, somehow they’ve lost their dignity and sacredness in the eyes of God? That’s ridiculous. So we have to get people to understand these people need protection just as much as the unborn babies. They have to get involved. They have to get educate themselves. They have to want to defend the lives of our medically vulnerable.
What else is the Terry Schiavo Life & Hope Network doing?
We’re trying to establish an outpatient recovery center in my sister’s memory. Every physician with whom we’ve spoken has said there is a definite need. Our intention is to develop a model that isn’t being done anywhere else in the country.
We also want to help our soldiers. One thing the war has done is raise awareness about brain injuries.
If people want to avoid ending up like your sister, what steps should they take?
Find a very good pro-life attorney. I’m not an attorney, but I don’t believe in advance directives. Health-care proxies would serve better because these ethics committees have the power to make decisions no matter what your advance directive says. It would really serve you better to have people advocating for you if you couldn’t speak for yourself. You have to appoint these people legally. You can have more than one. We recommend an odd number, but they should be people who have your values and your faith.
How much does this cost?
You have to do some research. People can do advance directives along with health-care proxies, if they choose, but they need to understand the language, because people don’t realize feeding tubes are now defined as “artificial life support.” When they think of artificial life support, most people think of machines keeping them alive. But it also means simple, basic food and water. That’s why I recommend having an attorney.
Register correspondent Brian O’Neel writes from Coatesville, Pennsylvania.


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What a beautiful man and what a beautiful article! I am inspired. May God richly bless all his efforts and his foundation.
CCC: ” 2324 Intentional euthanasia, whatever its forms or motives, is murder. It is gravely contrary to the dignity of the human person and to the respect due to the living God, his Creator.”
CCC: ” 2277 Whatever its motives and means, direct euthanasia consists in putting an end to the lives of handicapped, sick, or dying persons. It is morally unacceptable.
Thus an act or omission which, of itself or by intention, causes death in order to eliminate suffering constitutes a murder gravely contrary to the dignity of the human person and to the respect due to the living God, his Creator. The error of judgment into which one can fall in good faith does not change the nature of this murderous act, which must always be forbidden and excluded.”
ALSO - read CCC 2278, and 2279 regarding palitive care, etc.
It is very important - that our relatives know our wishes. We must read these sections of the CCC and put our wishes into writing to avoid any situation like the one in the article.
Age does not matter since accidents or illness can happen at any time.
Is it not tragic and pathetic that, thanks to Catholic democrat voters, we have not seen progress in two decades. Catholic democrats just voted for someone who thinks it is OK to kill girls and boys outside of their mom’s womb even after they survive the attempt to kill them in the womb. Catholic democrats might justify their votes by saying they were voting for a “compassionate, social justice” economy. Some compassion: higher unemployment, higher poverty, lower incomes and lower levels of wealth. I find the Catholic democrats’ endorsed economic policy to be quite brutal. I find their candidate to be condescending and divisive beyond what we have ever seen in an American politician. No surprise this is the same candidate who threatens closure of Catholic institutions under the guise of health care. No surprise he refused to thank God on Thanksgiving. I guess I am one of those “clinging bitterly” to religion. To what does the Catholic democrats’ candidate cling?
My heart and prayers go out to the Schindler’s. The public execution of Terri Schiavo was the most barbaric act and a watershed for our society. Every Bishop should have been there at the hospital demanding that her life be spared. As we all remember, there wasn’t one there. There were EWTN clergy and Sean Hannity of Fox News doing what our Bishops should have been doing. That in itself was a national scandal. As for Mike Schiavo, He has dues to pay.
Michael tried to kill Terri beating her within an inch of her life and then finally did it through the Courts, the Politicians and also the Clergy such as Bishop Lynch who stuck his head
in the sand and said “nothing”> Shame on them all!
Terri’s death and her family’s struggle to save her changed activated me to advocate for those with disabilities whose lives are seen as not worth living. Keep up the good work.
Check the website regarding Terri’s Annual Mass and Banquet in Philadelphia on April 5, 2013. Tickets go on sale soon. http://Www.lifeandhope.com
http://Www.lifeandhope.com
NASGA wholeheartedly supports Bobby Schindler’s petition to become Gary Harvey’s guardian. The attorneys for Chemung County Social Services have stated many times on the court record and in the public record that they did not and do not want to serve as Gary Harvey’s guardian, but unfortunately, there was no one else. Well now there is—and it’s Bobby Schindler.
We would hope the guardian would contact Attorney Johnson right away and agree to resign in favor of Bobby Schindler.
Yours,
Elaine Renoire
NASGA: http://www.StopGuardianAbuse.org
Our society has turned their backs on our vulnerable, elderly and disabled. Some may think that people like my husband Gary Harvey are not worthy after he fought for our country, work most of his life up to his unforntate accident and contributed to our community. This tragety turned into a nightmare and should be an eye opener on what the local politics/government agencies and the extemes they will go to push their agenda’s.
My opinion as I see it, is Government control and/or Local politics in family demonstrates that our so-called govt./protectors is not existing for the benefit of its citizens but using citizens money to support a system that actually robs & victimizes citizens.
Thank you for mentioning my husband in this article.
They didn’t cut off “life support” (as in some beeping machine). They cut off her food and water - enforced by armed guards. Using the ambiguous term “life support” plays into the media portrayal of her being “set free” from some machine.
Thank you, Bobby Schindler, for your passionate, unwavering commitment to human lives. Thank you too for your powerful, public witness to our Catholic faith, especially as you share your struggles to live it. Your encouraging words and shining example of forgiveness are beacons of hope to all of us who struggle to love those difficult to love. Please hug your mother and sister, and know you are in our hearts and daily prayer.
Thank you, finally, for the wise advice regarding advance directives and health-care proxies. This is now my highest priority.
Bobby, are you aware of Dr. Paul Byrne, of Toledo, OH? He is spearheading awareness of the facts of organ donation. I think you’ll find this to be a related area of concern regarding respect for life. Here is a link to his many articles regarding organ donation.
http://www.renewamerica.com/columns/byrne/080908
My heart is still troubled by all that happened. They would not even let children bring her a cup of water! Here is a poem I wrote about her:
“Terri’s Triumph”
In Heaven, she’s beautiful!
Living in Eternal Light!
Her life there is wonderful!
And there’s no long Dark Night!
Her sufferings are over now!
The thirst which cleaves the soul,
Oh, yes, now, it is over,
For He has made her whole!
The scorn and the disdain gone,
No more to be borne!
The sorrow and the pain gone,
No more is she forlorn!
Now Terri truly dances,
With all the Saints above,
And Terri, she laughs there,
With God, in Endless Love!
No more can Death assail her,
No more can man disdain,
What God has created,
Her life was not in vain!
Amen ! Amen! Amen!
(07-20-10)
Bobby Schindler and everyone should know there is no statute of limitations on murder. Michael Schaivo should be made to stand before a
Grand Jury to answer questions and explain all his inconsistencies. Dr. MacDonald went 10 years before being convicted for the death of his wife and 2 children. It is not too late to seek justice. Read: The Silent Witness; The Untold Story of Terri Schiavo’s Death (also on tape).
My father died last Thursday after being in hospice for 3 days. He had a living will which expressed his desire not to be given food or water under the circumstances he was in. These were his wishes. My sisters and I, after reviewing his situation with his doctor, decided it was moral to honor his wishes. Yes, he would have lived longer if he’d received treatment, but at a cost he himself decided against, in terms of quality of life.
Prolifers are only conditionally prolife. They’re prolife if someone has money to pay for healthcare. They’re prolife if they aren’t the ones who have the burden of caring for the dying (and yes, as a volunteer EMT and a former hospice volunteer, I’ve done my share of caring for the dying.) Prolifers are prolife at the margin, for the exceptional cases, but not for the everyday situations. More children are killed by guns than police officers are, but prolifers completely ignore the scourge of guns in our society.
There’s nothing beautiful about the prolife movement at all. It’s a self aggrandizing movement which exists only to assauge its members’ self imposed anxiety that someone else may make a decision they think they should make.
I fully support the Schindler’s PRAYERFULLY AND FINACIALLY. I appreciate hearing that Bobby is praying more for the conversion of Michael. My son Danny now 29 years old is similarly involved as Terri was. Danny since 1994 takes nutrition and hydration via g-tube. Please pray for Danny as he is cortically blind cannot walk, talk, sit, stand or jump.Danny is diagnosed as with severe cerebral palsy and seizure disorder which disrupts his daily life.Recently I asked a State Rep. Randy Hunt to support a bill to make illegal the withdrawal of nutrition and hydration and to review and outlaw basic nutrition and hydration being classified as artificial/ Please pray that this gets a hearing. Mr. Hunt is to try yet due to the overload of pro-choice politicians here in Massachusetts he doesn’t have much faith in them.. Again please pray. One last thing Danny is loved and a blessing and the manifestation of total innocence and is to be vauled as welcomed in society as another; ‘‘all-ways’‘...
I am not Catholic, but I can remember with great sadness (and anger) the fight that went on to save Terri’s life, just before it ended. Bobby and his father on one side and the so called “progressive” (mostly left), anti-religious people. It seemed like Terri got caught in between that debate, as well as Micheal’s hell-bent determination to kill off Terri for his own selfish reasons. It angered me greatly and I have made a few donations to this foundation over the years, and will continue to do so, if I am financially able and blessed to do do. I will never side with the selfish left - who if they had political power or money would move heaven and earth to keep their own family members alive. And some of them sadly, would happily pull the plug on a loved one. These selfish people are twisted and represent death the death of our once decent culture. Bobby and his father represent life and the decency that still exists in many. God bless Bobby Schindler and his foundation.
My mom was on a feed tube for 4 years but able to talk to me for all but the last few weeks. Hospice would not see her unless I pulled the feed tube! As a result, I do not trust any form of hospice! And yes, it cost a lot of money for her care but there is no way I would have murdered her for any amount of money! And that money came directly from any inheritance I could have received. I AM PRO-LIFE! It has been my experience that the greedy, money hungry progressives, weigh the costs and then offer up the excuse that they (therefore no one) would want to live like that! The pro-life people I know stand up to for the poor, ill, handicapped, helpless, and unborn. I will meet up with over 400,000 others who March for Life in DC this month! God bless them all! And GOD bless the Schiavo’s for their example. They changed the hearts of many who thought euthanasia would never happen in the US. Stand by while the socialist Democrats roll out the HHS mandate! Stay healthy or die!
God bless you, Lin.
Such beautiful comments. So many good people who understand what is happening to our country.
We need to pray for our country to turn back to God.
Thank you Bobby for sharing your pain for God’s greater glory. Peace be with you and Happy Easter to you and especially to Teri, resurrected to heaven with Our Lord!
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