It's common for Catholics to say that a newly elected pope is "God's choice" or that, the Holy Spirit chooses the new pope.
There's a sense in which this is true.
But does that mean that we can just sit back and assume the ideal candidate will be elected?
If so, why do we need to pray for the election of the new pope?
And what has Pope Benedict XVI had to say about the matter?
The Mystery of Providence
Since God is omnipotent, he could stop any particular thing in the universe from happening. Therefore, if something does happen, it is only because God allowed it to happen.
If God chose to allow it, anything that does happen could--in this broadest sense--be described as God's choice.
But that does not mean it is what God prefers.
There are a lot of things in history that God allowed but that would not have been his "first choice."
Take the fall of man and our redemption by Christ. In one sense, that's clearly God's choice. But we cannot ascribe Adam's sin to God as his ideal choice.
How man's free will relates to God's providence is complex, and we should be careful of simplistic solutions.
God Guides the Church
We can be confident of the general principle that God guides his Church. This is something we have biblical assurance of.
But his guidance does not prevent human free will from operating, and that means there is the potential for humans to abuse their free will.
That applies to the college of cardinals, too, even when they are electing a pope. They do not lose their free will.
Human Failure in History
We have been very fortunate in recent times to have a series of very holy, wise popes, but this has not always been the case.
If you look at history, certain popes have been real scoundrels, like Pope Benedict IX (first elected in 1032).
He was elected pope when still a boy. His reign was scandalous. He insisted upon monetary compensation in order to get him to resign. And then he didn't stay resigned. He was the only man to ever hold the papacy more than once. (In fact, he may have held it as many as three times.)
Without going into all the scandals attributed to him, the Catholic Encyclopedia states: "He was a disgrace to the Chair of Peter."
What Has Pope Benedict XVI Said?
Pope Benedict XVI frankly acknowledged the fact that cardinals can elect sub-optimal popes in an interview with German television back in 1997.
When asked whether the Holy Spirit is responsible for the election of a pope, he said:
I would not say so, in the sense that the Holy Spirit picks out the Pope. . . . I would say that the Spirit does not exactly take control of the affair, but rather like a good educator, as it were, leaves us much space, much freedom, without entirely abandoning us. Thus the Spirit's role should be understood in a much more elastic sense, not that he dictates the candidate for whom one must vote. Probably the only assurance he offers is that the thing cannot be totally ruined.
He continued:
There are too many contrary instances of popes the Holy Spirit obviously would not have picked!
What Was Pope Benedict's Final Exhortation?
He didn't say it as directly, but the same concern was reflected in Pope Benedict's final address to the college of cardinals on the day his resignation took effect.
He told them:
Before I say “goodbye” to you personally, I would like to tell you that I shall continue to be close to you with prayers, especially in these coming days, so that you may be completely docile to the action of the Holy Spirit in the election of the new pope. May the Lord show you the one whom he wants.
His prayer that the cardinals be docile to the action of the Holy Spirit indicates that they could fail to be docile.
They could misuse their free will, clinging to their own ideas and perceptions about who ought to be pope, and resist the guidance God is offering them, so that they don't clearly see the one whom God wants.
Still a Valid Vocation
If they were to do that and pick a sub-optimal candidate, that man would still validly become pope. He would--at that point--be called by God to fulfill the office of the papacy.
This is similar to a marriage. Even if there was someone better you could have married, once you say, "I do," God calls you to faithfully live your vocation as the spouse of that person.
In the same way, even if there could have been a better choice of pope, once a pope has been chosen, God calls that man to faithfully exercise the office of the papacy.
But one does not want to "settle" for a merely valid pope any more than one wants to "settle" for a merely valid spouse.
We want popes that are right for what the Church needs now, just as we want spouses that are right for us.
And so we need to pray for discernment in conclaves, just as we need to pray for discernment in courtships.
We Need to Pray!
I'm a big believer in using the faculty of reason to solve problems. That's why God gave us the faculty of reason.
But I'm also a big believer in prayer, particularly when we're dealing with huge, supermassive problems that go beyond what any one of us could know on a human level.
One such supermassive problem is: "Who is the best man to be pope, given all the complex issues the Church faces and all the uncertainties of the future?"
That's something we need to pray about!
This isn't just Pope Benedict's sentiment. It's why prayer for the election of a new pope is part of the Church's Tradition.
The Church even has a Mass for the Election of a Pope [.pdf].
It's why monasteries and parishes and even the humblest lay faithful can and should and do pray for the college of cardinals while they are in conclave.
Confidence and Vigilance
We can be confident that God will offer his guidance to the college of cardinals.
And we can be confident in the efficacy of prayer--that, as part of God's design, he sends extra graces when we turn to him in prayer.
These twin confidences leads us to vigilance in prayer.
We don't just want a pope or even a good pope, we want the best pope possible.
Let's pray for that.
Earnestly and often.
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A nice explanation of how GOD the HOLY SPIRIT allowed Pope Paul VI (of sad memory) to practically destroy the Holy Liturgy and the whole Holy Catholic and Apostolic Church. Then guided the Cardinals to elect Pope John Paul I who passed 33 days later. Way to go Holy Spirit! Then we got Pope John Paul II who lasted 27 years - not bad. Not a GREAT Pope but a GOOD Pope. Then we got Pope Benedict XVI, a true liturgical scholar. Now he has abdicated and we await the next Bishop of Rome. What will the HOLY SPIRIT do this time?
The word “Apostolic Faith” seems to be absent from your views.
Excellent article Jimmy.
This is great-clear and concise. Thank you and God bless you in your ministry!
The former pope also said to all the cardinals that the next pope would be one of them. There are over a billion Roman Catholics eligible, but he says that God will chose only from a small group of cardinals. Sounds like he is limiting the work of the Holy Spirit!
I’m praying “The Litany of St. Peter, Prince of the Apostles” Novena beginning today until the white smoke rises! Please download and print out this Litany and pray this Novena. If thousands of Catholics do this, in addition to the Rosary, with constant prayers to St. Joseph, Patron Saint of the Church, and constant invocations to Mary Most Holy, Mother of the High Priest, Mother of Priests, Queen of the Clergy, Immaculate Spouse of the Holy Spirit, then we can be sure Our Blessed Lord will, in His Divine Mercy, hear us!
Stephen, you are not quite correct. Any baptized and unmarried Catholic male over the age of reason may be elected, and there’s certainly not a billion of us. In practice, however, cardinals almost always elect one of their own, and for a practical reason. They know each other reasonably well, especially the ones that work in the Curia. They don’t know my parish priest or the bright kid in the Sunday school class.
Great article, Jimmy. I wish more people would read it. I read comments in other blogs where people are saying the Holy Spirit is going to choose our new pope. Linda, thanks for telling us about Litany to St. Peter. I found it and will pray it.
Holy Spirit Come The Church needs a Pope who is guided by The Holy Spirit.
Also, Anyone who has committed a grave sin, such as child sexual abuse should voluntarily resign. Now this would be guidance by The Holy Spirit
I was told that the young Pope that was elected was not 12 yrs. old but 19yrs old, a person in my parish asked our pastor that question and he said he was 19yrs old, I don’t know who is right and who is wrong. I have been praying to the HOLY SPIRIT that the cardinals will all call upon the HOLY SPIRIT in this next election of the new Pope. These times are scaring enough that it makes your heart drop. Thanks
Thanks for your information Jimmy! I always enjoy reading your column.
THANK YOU JIMMY! In the past weeks I’ve heard priests (some famous), devout Catholics, lay “experts” on EWTN, my church bulletin and other sources all espouse this completely INCORRECT and downright superstitious notion that the Holy Spirit “selects” the Pope. How absurd! It is not Church teaching nor Church doctrine, to say the least! Perhaps this wrong idea came about as a misinterpretation of Infallibility?
It’s scary there are so many illogical Catholics in the media, and I’m happy you have clarified the conclave is a FREE election like any other, and we pray for guidance.
If the reason, will, faith and discernment of the Cardinals is not what is choosing the Pope, why not simply put every eligible Cardinal’s name in a bucket and pull one out! The Holy Spirit could “choose” so much more easily without all this fuss and expense.
Pray, fast, offer an act of obedience…. One thing for sure, it’s beyond your reach…...
Get behind me satan, you are thinking like the world thinks…
Thank you, Jimmy, for reminding us of our ability to participate in the election of our new Holy Father. We CAN pray. And we should turn to the Lord for all the supermassive issues of life. Not approach all the big issues with apathy, or just thinking that “things will work out,” but trusting through prayer and inviting the Lord to be present in all situations. This is a wonderful new focus for our Lenten prayer time. Good message!
We need to pray that the cardinals in conclave will, through prayer and listening, try to discern what are the most important current needs of the Church (not just the Vatican administration) and who among them is best qualified to meet those needs. In effect, a double discernment is required. And the current needs of the Church are not necessarily those suggested by secular newspapers, and TV personalities.
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Thank you, Jimmy, I always read your blogs and I learn so much frem you. To my mind, you are saying that the Holy Spirit DOES guide the process—but that the Cardinals may exercise their “free will” to not follow the Holy Spirit and pick someone they prefer instead. May God help us if we have Cardinals that have turned away from the Holy Spirit. If every Cardinal prayed for the guidance of the Holy Spirit, and selflessly followed the impulses and influences of the Holy Spirit, then the Holy Spirit would indeed be selecting the new Pope. At least, that is my understanding, and my experience, regarding how the Holy Spirit works. It is not that the Holy Spirit isn’t influencing the Church, it is that the people in power are not tuning their ear to the Holy Spirit. Perhaps the very public failings of some of the Bishops and Cardinals are the Holy Spirits way of exposing and weeding out those who are not not following God’s will, but their own will.
Do I understand this correctly?
Thank you!
Many Catholics have not been taught, or have forgotten about, the difference between God’s permitting will and His ordaining will. (Thank you wonderful nuns who taught me all those years!) That is the brief answer to why we pray. We pray for God’s ordaining and most perfect will. He will allow or permit some things, but it might not be His ordaining will. Pray, people!
Benedicts personal secratary will be the next pope, he was standing there in prayer as the the former Pope Benedict stated “the future pope is amongst us”.
Father God in the Holy Spirit has no limitations as Christ himself will bless this Angelic Pastor.
Conclave Novena Prayer:
Lord Jesus Christ, Son of the Father, send down your Spirit over the conclave. Let the Holy Spirit inspire the hearts of the cardinals, that they may choose the man most pleasing to You, as Successor of Peter and Your Vicar on Earth. May Mary, Your Mother and Mother of the Church, be our Advocate. Amen.
(Written by Christine Watkins, MTS, LCSW):
I believe that Popes are chosen by God to be Pope, just as Jesus chose St. Peter.
The kind of Pope we get, I know, has to be decided by the conclave(who are supposed to pray for guidance of the Holy Spirit), but, while human beings go through the motions of election, God still chooses who it will be, whether it is because of what He wants, or because of what He allows us to have for our times.
What an infamous comment made above by Matthew the Wayfarer:
“...HOLY SPIRIT allowed Pope Paul VI (of sad memory) to practically destroy the Holy Liturgy and the whole Holy Catholic and Apostolic Church…”
It comes close to blasphemy against the Spirit Of Truth - Pope Paul VI was a holy man who wrote the masterpiece “Humane Vitae”. I am sure he is in heaven.
Blessed Catherine Emmerick told of an anti-pope in the last days. Also St’s Hildegard, Anna Marie Taigi,Elizabeth Mora, John of the Cleft rock and Pius 1X and X. Hundreds of recent visionaries in the last few years have been receiving similar messages. Medjugorje visionaries asked for urgent prayers days before, stigmatist Christina Gallagher was told his life was in danger in jan,and Pedro Regis in Brazil and Maria from ‘the warning second coming’ were warned for years of a plot to oust Benedict. Jesus calls the next pope the False pope who will be charming, articulate but will not be from God and will change the mass,abolish sacraments and tolerate sin. He wil be promoted by the media and persecute faithful priests.
Well, I think we have to ask what an ‘optimal candidate’ would look like. I’m sure we would have many different ideas about what that definition would be. But assume for the sake of argument that every cardinal had the same idea in his mind as to what that person would be. They might, each and every one, be wrong. God might have another person in mind as being the optimal choice. It is true that faith and reason cannot contradict each other; but because of our ignorance, our reason may be very insufficient in deciding this kind of thing.
The apostles drew lots to choose who the apostle would be that would replace Judas. They only used their reason to the extent that they limited the pool of choices to such people as had been with them from the beginning. That is reasonable, considering the time in which they lived. But other than limiting the pool, they didn’t use reason at all. They left the decision entirely to chance, trusting that God would control the outcome.
Is it just as reasonable in this day and age to limit papability to the cardinals? I think I would need to be convinced of that.
Who does God want to be Pope? Who knows?! Maybe Jimmy Akin should be Pope…In any event, to the point about the necessity of prayer, I think these reflections support it even more strongly.
I have been wondering what I should be praying on my ‘Our Father for the intentions of the Pope’ rosary bead during this interregnum. I think I have my answer: one Our Father for the intentions of Our Lord and Savior that we choose a Pope that is the one He wants us to choose.
I have some thoughts on a couple of basics for the next generation of evangelical Catholics. If we can find a way to get people of other faiths (and apparently most ‘Catholics’ as well) to “accept the (true) love of the (whole) truth so that they may be saved” (2Thessalonians 2:10) OR AT LEAST GET THEM TO BEHAVE AS IF THEY HAVE ACCEPTED IT BECAUSE THEY DO NOT WANT TO BE SEEN AS SOMEONE WHO IS EXPLICITLY HATING THE TRUTH, (please see the proposal starting on page three, I) then we will have a much better chance of helping the Holy Spirit to bring them to the fullness of the Catholic Faith. If people do not accept the true love of the whole truth, we are fighting a losing battle as many parents of teenagers will attest.
Once someone comes to believe there is a Creator God,< perhaps because they realize there are some absolutely, objectively, morally right and good things that should be done (like trying to help someone in their needs) or because they come to believe there are some absolutely, objectively, morally wrong and evil things that absolutely should never be done (like poisoning a whole town so you can buy land cheap) and they realize that there can be no absolute moral law unless there is an infinitely powerful Creator God who has created all space and time, who has one, single, infinite, always in the present tense thought and who has revealed His existence to them by revealing His absolute, objective Law> whether they are Jewish, Christian or Muslim, they can then also know that all parents should demonstrate that they are eager to pray as perfectly as possible and that they are working to know and believe everything God wants everyone to know and believe (whatever that is). How can anyone claim to be a good Jew, Christian, or Muslim if they say explicitly, or implicitly by their actions, that they do not want to pray as perfectly as possible or to know all that God wants everyone to know and believe?
I am not sure where Thomas Aquinas wrote in his summa that “we can believe with certitude of faith all that must follow from what the Church teaches in its solemn magisterium”, but starting with that and Romans 8:26, “In the same way, the Spirit too comes to the aid of our weakness; for we do not know how to pray as we ought, but the Spirit itself intercedes with inexpressible groanings”, and CCC 2606, “All the troubles, for all time, of humanity enslaved by sin and death, all petitions of salvation history are summed up in this cry of the incarnate Word”: and CCC 2741 “Jesus also prays for us-in our place and on our behalf. All our petitions were gathered up, once for all, in His cry on the Cross, and, in His resurrection, heard by the Father. This is why He never ceases to intercede for us with the Father. If our prayer is resolutely united with that of Jesus, in trust and in boldness as children, we obtain all that we ask in His Name, even more than any particular thing: the Holy Spirit himself, Who contains all gifts.”
What does “If our prayer is resolutely united with that of Jesus” mean in specific detail? Should parents consider how to help their children ever more perfectly, in the whole and in specific details, unite their prayers to the one prayer of Jesus on the cross? What details can we be absolutely certain are true because if we assume them to be false, that assumption would absolutely require some infallible teaching of the Church to be false also, (which cannot be, so therefore the original detail cannot be false)? (In math this is called ‘proof by induction’)
The question I ask is; Do you know any reason why the following could not help parents help their children to pray as perfectly as possible without them having to reinvent the wheel on their own? Obviously I believe each of the following must be true because if any of them is assumed to be false, that assumption would absolutely require a Truth taught by the Church to be untrue. If you do not see this also, please point out which ones might be false without absolutely requiring a Truth taught by the Church to also be false.
A. A mystery, in matters of faith, is a Truth revealed by God, acknowledged by the Church, that the faithful are called to accept and believe even if they cannot completely understand it, and we should always be looking for greater understanding of all that God reveals.
B. God is all-knowing, all-loving and all-powerful and Jesus Christ, being God and man, this person with one consciousness, the human animated by truly infinite grace, sees all time at once in the present tense (CCC 600) and prays His one prayer on the cross with and for each and every sinner throughout time and space at every point in their lives and we should constantly try to ever more perfectly join our prayer to His and the Holy Spirit’s prayer for each which is identically the same prayer as the Cry of the Incarnate Word on the Cross.
C. Each and every prayer of Jesus, Mary, and Joseph when they prayed as the Holy family form a unique subset of all prayers said throughout time and space in that in these prayers, the Son of God partook of them in time, as their Son, as well as their God in eternity, and therefore we can, and should, resolutely unite our prayers to each and every prayer of the Holy Family when we unite (CCC 2741) it ever more fully and perfectly to the prayer of Jesus on the Cross especially when we are made present to His crucifixion at Holy Mass by the re-presentation of His death, when we are made present to that point in space and time almost 2000 years ago.
D. It is a mystery, a truth revealed by God, acknowledged by the Church that the faithful should accept and believe, that Jesus Christ, in his human will, perfectly conforms to and reveals the eternal, changeless, always and everywhere in the present tense, Divine will of God and therefore by Jesus Christ willing to love, honor and be subject to Joseph and Mary, God reveals that it is His Divine Will eternally to be so subject to St. Joseph as the Head of the family and those refusing to accept this are in danger of imitating Satan who said in his pride, “I will not serve”.
E. Therefore, all the prayers of Mary and Jesus Christ as a child acknowledging St. Joseph as the Head of the family, with the authority and obligations of the Head of the family, all these prayers are eternally part of the one prayer of Jesus Christ on the cross.
F. The prayers of Mary at the foot of the Cross, most perfectly giving thanks to God, Her Son, for His infinite goodness in allowing her to suffer with Him, and for Him, and rejoicing that Her suffering, in some way filled up what was lacking in the afflictions of Christ on the cross (Colossians 1:24) are also present to us at each Mass and we would be good to join our prayers to hers through her Son’s one prayer.
G. We can be certain that Joseph and Mary, after their espousal, knowing the prophecy of Isaiah 7:14, where praying for God to send The Messiah through a virgin and were therefore praying for an act of God, a miracle, praying that by their sacrifices (fasting and promises to be celibate as husband and wife as the Essenes did) and prayers, God in His infinite goodness and mercy, would bless The Virgin of Isaiah 7 who must be the Woman of Genesis 3:15 and they would also have been praying for the husband of this Virgin for the awesome responsibility his would be to be the “father” of the Messiah, praying all this not knowing that God was eternally subject to them, but especially subject to the father as the head of the family, as a perfect son.
H. When we receive communion and we are blessed to have Our God (God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit, each doing everything that God does eternally in the present tense and sharing everything they are with the other because anything else would require that one was infinite and the others were not infinite) on our tongues in His completeness, body, blood, soul and Divinity it is good to remember CCC 1085 where the Church teaches that “all that Christ IS-all that he did and suffered for all men (sinners) participates in the Divine Eternity, and so transcends all times while being made present in them all” and therefore every prayer of Jesus in which the Child Jesus and Mary honored St. Joseph as the Head of the family are present to us in the Holy Eucharist and therefore we should unite our prayer to theirs especially when we are praying for a miracle, an act of God, as Joseph and Mary did before the Incarnation; someone’s conversion, the end of abortion being ‘legal’, a return to the Constitution of the United States as the founders intended it to be understood as the Supreme Law of the Land, etc.
I. This proposal has two purposes: First it is intended to help all ministers of all faiths to publicly unite on one core belief they all should hold and for them to work together in calling for and emphasizing this common core belief; The absolute basic necessity and importance of parents, and especially fathers, doing all they can to show their children that all good parents truly want to pray as perfectly as possible and work to know and believe everything God wants everyone to know and believe (whatever that is) and thereby show how to truly love the whole truth and thereby truly love the author of all truth, God.
Each minister simply placing their trust in God in the sure faith that all who honestly seek the whole truth will be led by God’s grace, through the verifiable evidence and related questions (that each minister is eager to share with anyone) to the one faith God wants everyone to have, their faith. Can you imagine any religious minister publicly saying, after a group of other ministers have publicly united in the above statement, “Yes, God wants everyone to pray as perfectly as possible and to work to know and believe certain things, but we are not part of that group because we do not encourage people to pray ever more perfectly or to work to know and believe everything God wants everyone to believe”, or for that minister to say implicitly that, “We do not believe there is enough verifiable evidence and related questions for God to bring people to our faith”?
Second: “T-shirts in the home” that state self-evident truths or ask questions concerning what we can know with absolute certitude concerning God.
All people, who know it is absolutely, objectively right to care about others, know it is a self-evident truth that we all are obligated by God’s Law in our hearts to try to do everything we can to help others and we should want to do so and we should always be looking for ways to truly help everyone. God wants everyone to believe certain things and has revealed them to us if we only honestly seek them. Good Parents and grandparents with real faith (whether Jewish, Christian, or Muslim) desire to help their children to pray ever more perfectly and to want to know and believe everything God wants everyone to believe and these good parents want their children to want to help everyone else do the same. I remember Dr. James Dobson saying once that if parents could once succeed in helping their children to truly love the whole truth, the parent’s job was done pretty much done with that child.
Many good religious ministers of all faiths explicitly mention self-evident truths from time to time and this is good. What is needed is a way for everyone to be reminded of them more often in a non-threatening, passive way, so as to reinforce the messages and to show how essential they are to believing everything God wants everyone to believe and living as the infinitely good God wants everyone to live to be happy. If parents and children each had many of these shirts with different messages, and it was expected of each to wear a different one every day, it would be a good reminder for the person wearing the shirt and any family members without any implied accusations of a failure on anyone’s part. This is just a quiet way of cooperating with, and a reminder of, what good religious ministers tell their followers.
I acknowledge that the proposed messages on these t-shirts are very wordy and other people will come up with many more and better statements, but, I contend that the length is not that bad because these t-shirts must be seen as an aid in helping ourselves, helping families, the people closest to us, the people we stand and talk to, first. The most important place to start in evangelizing the world is in each home where parents need to be seen eager to pray more perfectly and working to know and believe everything God wants everyone to believe. Whether it is parents or grandparents or church’s getting these messages out, the shirts into homes, the messages are only a reminder and something to prick the consciences concerning self-evident truths that we already know but many times do not remember and apply. How many people will deny that it is a self-evident, absolute, objective, moral truth that we should want to help others and then expect anyone to give much weight to their arguments?
If grandparents, or churches, or wealthy individuals, with real faith give them as gifts to children and grandchildren, there will be discussion and since they are self-evident truths, no one will be able to take the opposite position, everyone will know what they SHOULD DO and what they are expected to do if they really want to do all they can to help everybody.
If everyone who should support this does so with enthusiasm there will be a snowballing effect and churches or wealthy individuals get behind the idea and shirts are given away free or at reduced cost to those in financial need, the general result that people of all faiths will agree in advance to will be that many more people will be led by the verifiable evidence and correct questions and God’s grace to the one faith that God wants everyone to believe. I admit that people of every faith will differ on what specific faith this proposal will eventually lead to, but let us all show our sure confidence and trust in God that it will be the faith that God wants everyone to have and leave it at that until the answer is made clear by God.
The question is: If this idea does get rolling, and people, especially religious ministers, decided they had to support it because they did not want to be seen not supporting it; would GOD BE PLEASED????????
Why should anyone place any trust in any religious minister who does not enthusiastically support this proposal that will, (if people support it) clearly help all ministers of all faiths to publicly witness that all faiths expect parents, and especially fathers, to show that good parents truly want to work to believe everything God wants everyone to believe and therefore show how to truly love the whole truth so that they may be saved, each minister in the sure faith that all will be led by God’s grace through the verifiable evidence and related questions to the faith each minister truly has?
I am convinced that this proposal is part of God’s plan to turn the whole Blessed world back to God, right side up, by peaceful means because I cannot see any person publicly giving any verifiable evidence as to why it should be opposed. Those who fear that it will lead all to the Catholic faith can do no more than delay it by half-truths and misdirection. Can you find anyone who says it should be opposed?
There are many self-evident truths that could be put on t-shirts that would help many people. These are a few for starters. Please be convinced that truth will win out in the end and if I or someone else suggests an idea that is not an objective truth, it will be seen as such through this proposal by God’s grace. And please remember that it is a good thing if each person has many different statements, many t-shirts, to choose from so that they can reaffirm many statements of self-evident objective truths. Please think of the good that will eventually come, if families are given these t-shirts and children start young and are expected to wear them always as a way for them to remember to always will and work to believe everything God wants everyone to believe.
0. People who truly love the whole truth so that they may be saved
ask “What is the verifiable evidence that proves this is something
God does want everyone to believe?” when someone else offers
them a “truth” they believe concerning God (see 2thessalonians 2:10)
1 What words describe someone who says, “I am a good (Jew, Christian, or Muslim)
but I do not will to pray as perfectly as possible or to work to believe everything God wants everyone to know and believe, whatever that is”?
ridiculous? self-deceiving? insane? not-thinking?
2 All good ministers of all faiths and all good parents show that they
truly want everyone to believe all that God wants everyone to believe and
and show that they truly want everyone to pray as perfectly as possible.
3 All competent Jews, Christians and Muslims believe
that God has only one, single, infinite, always in the present tense,
eternal, thought that is exactly the same always and everywhere,
and is therefore exactly the same as when the infant/child Jesus honored
Joseph and Mary with love, obedience, and dependence
because that time is (as is all time) eternally present to God
and if Jesus Christ is true God and True man then God eternally honors them thus
4 All competent Jews, Christians and Muslims believe
that God is All-knowing, All-Loving, and All-Powerful,
the infinite perfection of every good virtue we can know and
has only one, single, infinite, always in the present tense,
eternal, thought that is exactly the same always and everywhere
5 Please share the “truths” you believe concerning
Jesus Christ and the infinitely good God
6 Please ask me why I (do/do not)
believe the Catholic faith
7 People need to focus on “black and white” moral questions
(not the grey areas) to help them believe in a God who is the only
possible source of absolute moral good and absolute moral evil.
8 Every mature adult should have sure reasons why they believe
what they believe and they should show that they want to share
these reasons and they hope others will share their reasons for their faith also.
9 It is a self-evident truth that no one can imagine a greater good than the infinitely good
plan God has for turning the whole blessed world back to Him, right side up; and therefore,
since we can imagine a God who is so infinitely good, merciful and powerful that he wills
to turn the world right side up by peaceful means; this proves that this is what God is doing.
10. Because men are weak sinners we cannot truly merit on our own God’s mercy and help
and therefore for any good to be done we should acknowledge that it would take an act
of God, out of his infinite goodness and mercy, for us to join with Him in doing good things
11 What should everyone do to demonstrate that they truly want
to believe everything that God wants everyone to believe?
12 TO LOVE AS God loves everyone is to will the good of all, to will and
work to help them be as holy as possible as quickly as possible
and to voluntarily sacrifice our wants for the true good of the other
13 If anyone does not truly love all truth, they do not truly love God,
themselves or anyone else and therefore are not ready for marriage
Msgr. Luigi Villa asked for & received permission to meet with Padre Pio in the early 50’s. At that time Padre Pio told him that our Lord wanted Fr. Villa to defend the Church from the work of freemasonry, especially ecclesiastical FREEMASONRY. Through his Bishop, Fr. Villa received approval from Pope Pius XII to so defend the Church of Christ. He went on to obtain a Dr. of Dogmatic Theology degree. In the mid 60’s he again visited Padre Pio, who scolded him for not working harder & said “I have been waiting for you a long time, Courage, Courage, Courage ! For the Church is already invaded by freemasonry, it has already reached the Pope’s slippers.” Giovanni Montine was Pope Paul VI at that time. When Pope John Paul II first accepted the process to beatify Paul VI, Fr. Villa presented evidence & documents he collected & that process was quashed. Fr. Villa died on 18 Nov 12. Very promptly the ‘Montini’ faction again presented a request to beatify Paul VI which was accepted by Benedict XVI. Read some of the many books published on freemasonry & its avowed enemy, The Catholic Church. Draw your own conclusions, the truth is there, just seek it.
Obama is an avowed abolitionist, not exactly like the Abe Lincoln he would like us believe he is or could ever be. He would have us abolish outdated religious norms which inhibit his version of human rights such as homosexual marriage, assisted suicide, and human cloning.
Obama is a self styled and self inspired prophetic speaker. His obsession with himself and his ideas miraculously coupled with the power he has obtained loosed his lips to proclaim his hearts desire to transform society to fit his notion of Utopia with a new age religion of secular relativity. Knowing and keenly aware personally of the fact that the election of 2008 put in office the most pro-abortion and anti-Christian president America could have ever imagined, he was quick to proudly and prophetically announce to the world what he had dreamed to say, that “America is no longer a Christian nation…”
The obscure local Chicago community organizer had, with all the subtlety of a politically contrived hurricane from hell, progressed from being a candidate with a pay scale too low to judge when life begins to over night becoming the secular messiah proudly defending partial birth abortions and leaving helpless living abortion surviving infants unattended until they die on the blood soaked floors of Planned Parenthood clinics or hospital operating rooms. So much for the wealth he has gained through Christian knowledge and inspiration he is getting from a daily dose of scripture.
You are Peter (the rock), and on this rock I will build my church and the gates of hell will not prevail.(Mat 16:18) If a Pope is validly elected then there is no chance of the Pope being an agent of the devil.
Let God take care of the Church and let us pray for the church, which is us all in union with the Magisterium of the Church.
Remember even though we have free will God places us where he wants us for His ends. He knows the end from the beginning.
Trust God and in all else repent so Salvations sake.
Holy Mother, bring your spouse, the Holy Spirit into the hearts of the Cardinal electors and through your intercession bring us the Pope God desires in this “time of troubles” as foretold by Pope Benedict XVI before his retirement.
Sue, Christina Gallagher was found as not worthy(read condemned) by the Church and the faithfull are required to not listen to her as her teachings are found to be false and in some cases Heresy.
I hope Pope Benedict XVI was incorrect if he predicted that the next Pope would be chosen from the current College of Cardinals.
This body of Cardinals is a mixed bag. How about a Pope selected from outside the College of Cardinals, a good, holy, young, and courageous bishop or priest who will guide the Church in all Truth. My personal pick, for what it’s worth, would be Bishop Alexander Sample, the newly appointed Archbishop of Portland, Oregon. We desperately need someone like him to lead the Church.
I hope they elect archbishops chaput. :)
Minnesota Mary and anon, in my natural self I agree with both or either of you. But check out this link, I think it’s true and I think it points to someone else. http://www.locutions.org/category/the-next-pope/
To me it is incomprehensible that the mass was changed by Paul VI.
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9. The Liturgical Revolution – A New Mass
“Truly,
if one of the devils in C.S. Lewis’
The Screwtape Letters
had
been entrusted with the ruin of the
liturgy he could not have done it
better
.”
1
THE NEW MASS VS. THE TRADITIONAL MASS
The Traditional Latin Mass, the most holy act of worship of the Roman Rite of the Catholic
Church, was codified by Pope St. Pius V in his Bull
Quo Primum
in 1570.
In his famous Bull
Quo Primum
, Pope St. Pius V forbade changing the traditional Latin Mass.
Pope St. Pius V,
Quo Primum Tempore
, July 14, 1570:
“Now, therefore, in order that all everywhere may adopt and observe what has been
delivered to them by the Holy Roman Church, Mother and Mistress of the other
churches,
it shall be unlawful henceforth
and forever throughout the Christian world to sing or to
read Masses according to any formula other than this Missal published by Us
...
Accordingly,
no one whosoever is permitted to infringe or rashly contravene this notice of Our
permission, statute, ordinance, command, dire
ction, grant, indult, declaration, will,
decree, and prohibition. Should any venture to do so, let him understand that he will
incur the wrath of Almighty God and of
the blessed Apostles Peter and Paul.”
That the mass was changed contrary to the Bull Quo Primum Tempore of Pope Pius V in 1570 is incomprehensible.
Let us not forget, there are some cardinals who are not in communion with His Church, thus they are not Catholic to begin with. We will know if we have an anti-Pope.
“I hope they elect Archbishop Chaput.”
According to Pope Benedict, the next Pope is among the cardinals that were present when Pope Benedict made his statement that he would support the new Pope that would be one of those cardinals present. Pope Benedict knows the requirements for being elected Pope. For some reason I feel we need to protect Pope Benedict. He has left, while the wolves remain.
Archbishop Chaput would be a strong candidate for our next Pope.
I firmly believe that God will choose his Shepherd to lead his sheep. No matter about speculations and church will overcome all trials and tribulations as Jesus Christ himself did.
Also ... you could NOT have picked a worse name for this club.
There is NOTHING Secret about GOD ... even though HIS Depth is beyond our understanding ... still ... GOD is easy to understand for HIS Children ... and is simple ... though Profound as well.
It’s just a bad name for something that is related to the ‘Truth’ in the Flesh WHO is our Saviour and is not appropriate for Information which is related to HIS Transparent Church’s Teachings either.
... JMO ... GOD Bless you, Jimmy, and us all.
Jesus knelt down, washed the feet of his disciples and kissed their feet. He said to do likewise.
How many of those in the church authority put this into action?
I was struck with Fr. Cantalamesa’s papal Good Friday’s homily last year, he said “I hope that when you leave this place today, you can proclaim to the people you will meet that…I’ve been to Calvary today”.
I have been meditating about this message…And off course the meaning we put into it would make the difference.
If I were to apply this to the ungodly experience I have…I could interpret that in Calvary, there’s crucifixion, there’s rejection, instead of being able to believe, that the cross embraces all, regardless.
It’s true, Jesus did not stay on the cross nor in the tomb forever…He was taken down from the cross…the tomb was empty…because Jesus rose..He is risen indeed. The very source of hope that no matter how crucifixion is being done deliberately for material gains, no matter how deeply authorities bury a member of the flock entrusted to them by the Lord…the Lord reigns…It is a matter of faith…faith that is in itself is a gift from God.
There’s so much theologies, but all we need is to put them into action.
I fully understood what St. Francis said…Preach the Gospel, use words when necessary.
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