I think we need to start speaking boldly against what Catholic democrats have done to us. They have assured a generation of Supreme Court majority votes in favor of infanticide (the candidate endorsed by Catholic democrats advocates infanticide even after a baby girl survives the attempt to kill her in her mom’s womb), in favor of equating sodomy (which God calls an abomination) with Holy Matrimony, and in favor of this evil administration’s war against the Church and her institutions under the guise of “health care”.

Presumably Catholic democrats justify voting for such an evil administration because it supports “compassionate” economic policies. My answer is that even if the policies were compassionate (they are not), it would be gravely immoral to vote for money while accepting the above-mentioned evils.

Also, Catholic democrats have shown a thorough lack of knowledge about economics. We may need to start teaching economics in Catholic grade schools. It is far too obvious that too many Catholic democrat adults have not risen above a kindergarten-level knowledge of economics.

I am losing my job in one or two months. It is painful having to look for work in a Catholic democrat’s idea of an economy governed by those with “compassionate” policies. I need, instead, for an economy with lower taxes across the board, with more wealth being created, with those who are wealthy to be doing better, not worse, and for businesses, large and small, to be dong better, not worse. This kind of economy (the opposite of a Catholic democrat’s economy) will enable lower income people like me who want to work, to find jobs.

The election results are indicative of a huge shift in the Catholic faithful since the days when the first Catholic president was elected in 1960. Dissident theology in seminary and college classrooms combined with vapid, banal and pedestrian liturgies in many parishes over a half-century have sown the seeds of religious mediocrity and lukewarm Catholicism. The classical liberal arts education once the pride and joy of every institution of higher learning is now confined to a few places (like Ave Maria University, Franciscan University of Steubenville, Christendom College, Thomas Aquinas College, Magdalen College, Belmont Abbey College, et al.) The result and consequence is that many graduates of so-called Catholic colleges and universities were taught a very specialized curricula that encompassed their major but left out a liberal arts education. Hence, we have very intelligent alumni who know their particular discipline inside and out but who had their philosophy, theology, science, humanities, etc., learning diluted if not denied. Worse yet, were those who were subjected in college and seminaries by dissident theology. This combined with a loss of the sacred in many parish celebrations of the sacred liturgy promoted a bad result. BAD THEOLOGY + BAD LITURGY = BAD MORALITY The disconnect between faith and reason was introduced so that now we have cultural Catholics who get their ashes on the beginning of Lent every year, who go to Mass once a month or less, and who consistently vote and make moral decisions NOT based on the Natural Moral Law and Magisterial teachings but on convenience, comfort, and in conformity with popular opinion and political correctness. Pope JP2 and B16 in their erudite writings and in conjunction with the Catechism and the Roman Missal give us a chance and some hope to reeducate and reform this current age. A Christian culture must be restored but it must be authentically Christian to the core and not just in appearance. From celebrating the birthday of the Savior at CHRISTMAS (rather than a secular Happy Holidays) to defending the right to life of the unborn and protecting the sanctity of traditional marriage and the family, we must EXORCISE those elements of contemporary culture which undermine our most cherished values, from LIFE to religious LIBERTY. Reverent celebration of the Sacraments, especially the Mass, combined with orthodox sermons, classes and textbooks will be the fuel for the engine. Restoring piety and devotion among the faithful and reintroducing a sense of RESPONSIBLE CITIZENSHIP will be the way to turn the tide.

Mike I couldnt agree with you more.  I am so sadden by where our country is, but more sadden by the state of our church.  As the article states they are some success stories but they are too few compared to the atrocities that have occurred in the last forty plus years because the church has attached itself to the democratic party.  How can one so called social program that is runned by a secular government be worth the life of one of God’s precious children let alone 55 million and counting. May God have mercy on us all.  I have always prayed for the clergy, but I believe we must storm heaven to bring us holy and truthful servants of Christ.  I like you are uncertain about my future, being self employed makes life very interesting to say the least.  I do know hope with God’s help I will never sacrifice my beliefs in my faith for personal monetary benefit.  I would rather starve in the street than vote to kill one of God’s children.

Mike and Laurie:
I share your concerns and your passion for liberty. Until our conversations and debates are framed within the context of the Constitution, we will come to an impasse. Democrat or not, none of the govt decisions are Constitutional. We must utilize state based solutions, and assume our constitutional authority. Those in DC are so out of control, they cannot be trusted.

Tricia,
I think we are now so far from politics of anykind solviing our problems.  I personally don’t think Jesus Christ would of won against Obama.  The era of no responsibility is dominating our world.  People no longer want to be responsible in working,
But more importantly they don’t want to be responsible morally either.  Abortion,contraception, homosexual marriage,children being born out of wedlock,people illegalling wanting to enter a country and receive all its benefits without any mind to the ones who are trying to enter legally, and of course divorce, greed,kids having sex at the age of twelve or thirteen.  We have rejected God.  I believe only God and the Catholic Church can lead us out of this mess.  Pray for holy bishops and priests.  We are in desperate need of truth from them.  If they had led courageously in the sixties and seventies I don’t believe abortion would of ever been made the law of the land. God can not and will not honor a land that does not honor him.  We have to pray for the Catholics that voted for personal interests rather than God to see his truth. May God have mercy on us all.

The Church isn’t here to implement heaven on earth. Jesus wouldn’t win the presidency not because of the democrats, but because He wouldn’t even bother running for president - His “kingdom is not of this world” if I remember correctly.

Speaking of remembrance, Jesus also said (repeatedly) - “Be not afraid.”

“Even the gates of hell will not prevail” against the Church, much less the Democrats. Obama has not hit upon the way to destroy the Church that Satan has failed to find for 2,000 years.

We live in a fallen world. People, Catholic or not, Clergy or not, are all sinners and it is our nature to fall farther and farther. Satan has not and will not be able to destroy the Church, so he sets his sights on us, & our corruptible natures.

Things could always be better, but they can also always be worse. Far before the 60’s, Hillaire Belloc said that “The [Catholic] Church is an institution run with such knavish imbecility, that if it weren’t instituted by God, it wouldn’t last 2 weeks.”

I pray for people to turn to God, not to waste their energy worrying about voting in pseudo-democratic elections that are little more than Hobbes Choices, or about putting the Church on the same kind of “superhero that will save us” pedestal that Judas put Jesus on.

Clarification - Not saying “don’t vote”, so much as noting that the outcomes are far less important in the long run than what is typically made of them.

Chris
Thanks for your philosophical response. To sit and wait for God to come and win the victory is not being that active in this world.  Our country is in a very bad state.  Is this the first time in history that things are bad, of course not.  Will it be the last time, probably not, but for good men and women to sit by and do nothing doesn’t sound like a very fruitful idea either.  We are active partiipants in this world and we are called to live lives that resemble Christ.  There is no better place for that to take place than in the Catholic Church.  When only 10% of Catholics go to church on a weekly basis, there is a problem.  When 70%plus of Catholic hispanics vote against the church there is a problem.  When half the clergy are attaching themselves to one political party, there is a problem.  When 90-95%of Catholics use contraception there is a problem. obviously I could go on.  Jesus also said will there be any one who believes in me when I return.  I want to actively work against that from happening.  I can’t see how praying for more holier priests and bishops is a problem.

Who is the author of this post? I’m confused. Am I missing it?

Fellow catholics, while we continue to beat ou,rselves up and whine over the re-election of president Barack Obama, let’s take a break from our presumed sentiments and ask ourselvoures this question: would we have been better off electing a Mormon as president? Think about it for a moment.

Laurie,

I agree with you so very much.  Those of us whom are faithful must get down on our knees and pray. And I agree that politics on the Federal will offer no solutions, (DC will never fix DC) and perhaps in many of the States as well.  With that said; I would challenge you to take a look at the “WE” in your statements about Americans who have lost their morals. More than half of Americans want something other than this current administration, and many are very engaged in assuming our Constitutional rights.  As citizens, we have tools embedded in the Constitution, given to us by our Founding Fathers and the grace of God.  Sadly, many have never learned about them, and show no interest in the Constitution as well as the Federalist Papers.  History taught in schools is far from accurate, which adds to our ignorance and sense of defeat. The good news is that so many people are waking up. We must remember that good and evil are NOT equal forces.  Good trumps evil in every way.  Lastly, I share your angst, but not your position on civic engagement.  It is up to all of us to remain steadfast when it comes to our liberty, as our ancestors had done so for us.  In the words of Benjamin Franklin; “I give you a Republic, if they can keep it.”  God helps those who help themselves.  Get informed and find one of the several powerful groups out there to begin taking this country back. Educate children, friends and family.  SEE: The Tenth Amendment Center,  or take a look at http://www.restoringfreedom.org or Th,e Forgotten Men fb page and website, or one of the many campaigns/organizations that are out there. The solutions are State based - not in DC.  Our liberty and values took their first hit when Lincoln was elected President. The war between the States was not about slavery, it was about power of the federal government over the people. (look this up anywhere - even wikipedia) It has taken us over 100 years of slow and steady work to get us where we are today. The pendulum already has begun to swing the other way. Just get involved and informed. 

Emmanuel Nnaji:

If we had elected Romney, we would have seen some short term improvements, but it would not fix our long term problems. If we could elect a third party candidate, we may have seen some long term solutions.  With that said, the system in DC is very corrupt; it is about who controls the money.  The only solutions lie within the States. Your comment about Romeny’s faith, does not resonate with me nor my Catholic way of life.  Even if it did, it would bare no meaning in terms of results.  DC will never fix DC.

Tricia,
You make some very good points.  i will continue to pray and vote for honorable men and women especially on the local level.  I am not necessarily against political solutions. I just believe morals have sunk so low in this country and for that matter the world, that a true spiritual movement is really the answer.  This has probably been the case for a long time now. I actually believe at least one good thing might come out of this election and that is that the church and her followers actually have to stand up and fight for its beliefs (HHS mandate).  I am praying that this will be a start in educating the church in what it really believes.  We might not be as big as we are now, but we might be alot holier
God Bless

@Emmanuel Nnagi The way you think is astonishing for a Christian. You ask, “Is it better if we had elected a Morman?” You say, “If we had elected Romney we would have seen some short term improvement, but it would not fix our long term problems.” Evidently you find it morally reprehensible to vote for a Mormon but a good thing for a Christian to vote for a man and his party who aim in every way to quarantine Christianity. Here’s a news flash for you: It is impossible to consider the redistribution of wealth without also considering power. And here’s a history lesson for you: Every time injustice has been levied on a people it has always come from those in power.  You need help.  Go to the thelaycatholic.com and read the article “The End to the Sanctions of Limited Government.” It is not about who controls the money so much as it is about who controls liberty and justice for all. If this election has a message it is that we must all form ourselves properly in the faith, stop promoting our own ideas ahead of those of Christ and His Church, give up our crude partisan attitudes, relearn the founding principles of this great country and do the rigorous work reason requires.

@Emmanuel Nnagi The way you think is astonishing for a Christian. You ask, “Is it better if we had elected a Morman?” You say, “If we had elected Romney we would have seen some short term improvement, but it would not fix our long term problems.” Evidently you find it morally reprehensible to vote for a Mormon but a good thing for a Christian to vote for a man and his party who aim in every way to quarantine Christianity. Here’s a news flash for you: It is impossible to consider the redistribution of wealth without also considering power. And here’s a history lesson for you: Every time injustice has been levied on a people it has always come from those in power.  You need help. It is not about who controls the money so much as it is about who controls liberty and justice for all. If this election has a message it is that we must all form ourselves properly in the faith, stop promoting our own ideas ahead of those of Christ and His Church, give up our crude partisan attitudes, relearn the founding principles of this great country and do the rigorous work reason requires.

Laurie:

Thank you.  I will be praying with you.  You know, if we look back in history, the world was in a more horrific state that it is today, and yet our Church sustained the assaults of the middle ages and the Protestant Reformation!  Thanks to so many of the Saints and Doctors of the Church, we were lead out of the darkness and political assaults.  Think about St. Irenaeus, St Theresa of Avila, St. Thomas Moore, etc. who lead us out the crazy movements towards other non-Christian faiths. (great books to read - see EWTN bookstore)  They worked hard to keep Catholic principles front and center. 

I would ask that you consider using Christian principles and politics in the same sentence.  Our country’s framers and fathers were inspired by God.  Even in the Constitution, the term “unalienable” rights - God given - was used specifically, vs inalienable rights. This is no easy challenge, there are more good people out there than those DCvers would like us to think. As Bishop Fulton Sheen noted; “there is a false sense of melancholy.”  Voting is not enough; it is only 10% of our civic duty.  (For free access to documents like the federalist papers, etc. see the Avalon Project online.  It is a free online library at Yale Law school that has documents dating back to 4000BC!)  Read the Constitution and teach it to everyone you know.

I’m a former life-long Democrat, now a registered Independent, since neither party fully reflects my views. I favor gun control, war only as a last resort, and governement assistance to the poor, disabled, elderly, veterans, homeless, and other vulnerable persons, without creating a culture of dependency. I also oppose the death penalty, legal abortion (except in accord with the Church’s teaching on “double effect”) and gay marriage. I happen to be a gay Catholic, and have several gay friends. We have a respectful relationship, so I’m certainly not bigoted. I haven’t always been chaste, but have been for most of my 50 years, and have found healing theough the Sacrament of Reconciliation. But I cetainly agree that marriage sould be legally defined as the union of one man and one woman (I do however believe that divorce, though against church teaching, should remain legal). It can be devestating to family life (as I know many divorced people, including some in my family, but unfortunately, because of domestic violence, etc., it must be a legal option). I was torn between voting for Romney/Ryan and Obama/Biden. However, I did reluctantly vote for Romney. First, because I deplore the attacks on his Mormon faith. Sure, most tenets of Mormonism are contrary to our faith. But my late Aunt was a Mormom, and she was a good, loving woman, and not seubservient to her husband. Many Americans believe that Catholics have strange beliefs (such as the Real Presence of Christ in the Eucharist), but we must not let the opinions of others weaken our faith. FRankly, I agree that Obama has done some good (the gradual troop withdrawal from the Middle East, and he did inherit some problems from previous GOP administrations). And frankly, Romney is too conservative for me. However, I voted for Romney not because I’m rich or uneducated (the stereotypical media portrayal of a Romney supporter). With committing the sin of pride, I have a degree in Special Education, and have worked for disabled persons in various capacities for 20 years. Unti 3 months ago, I worked part-time as a healthcare aide for a young man with muscular dystrophy. Hardly a high-paying job, but I enjoyed the work, and his terrific attitude toeards life, despite his challenges. I’m now partly disabled due to serious health problems (not seeking sympathy-many people have far worse probelms!) and am seeking employment. Obam’s Health Care Act, in my opinion, had the admirable provision of requiring employers to provide employees with health benefits. However, despite his so-called compromise,s, “Obamacare” will force catholic and other religious hospitals to provide abortion drugs. According to a 6/16/12 AP report, one out of six Americans receive healthcare from Catholic hospitals. When our hospitals close-and sadly they will-only misery will result. Remaining hospitals will be overwhelmed by the poor, the disabled, senior citizens, the homeless, veterans, and pretty much anyone in need of medical care. Ideally,there would be a candidate i full accord with our Church’s teachings. After all, Mr. Romney did flip-flop his views on abortion and gay marriage. But so to, did Biden. As Delaware Senator, he voted aginst the partial-birth abortion ban, and usually voted agianst most federally funded abotions. During the Supreme Court hearings for Judge Robert Bork, he praised him as a fine jurist, and pledged to vote for him even if it upset “pro-choice” groups. Obama has has “evolved” (wrongly) on the gay marriage issue. He originally went from quietly suporting civil unions. Now, his administration even refuses to defend the Defense of Marriage Act(DOMA).. Ironically, ex-President Clinton, with bipartisan suppost, signed into law DOMA. Neither party is perfect. Unfortunately, many Republican leaders such as Senator John McCain are calling for the GOP to downplay the right to life of the unborn, the elderly from euthanasia, and disabled newborn infants from infanticide.

Tim Donovan:

Your train of thought regarding voting resembles many Americans, no doubt.  DC is out of control and the vote is like the lesser of two evils.  Our Liberty is constantly under attack. 

Regarding health care, I used to agree with your position.  I would challenge you to ask why health insurance is employer based in the first place.  Look not the establishment of Blue Cross, during a time when the government would not allow employers to raise wages and salaries. There is much more below the iceberg. 

Aside from the fact that it is not affordable or sustainable, it is not the role of the government to mandate or provide health care, especially if we give up our rights to self-govern and our liberty.  Health insurance would also be more affordable if we were the customer and could purchase it across state lines.  Charitable organizations might do better if people paid less in taxes and our currency valuable. We talk about taxing the rich, but what about the 48% of Americans that pay “Zero” taxes.  The wealthy, the top 2%, already pay 70% of the whole tax burden.  Spreading the wealth is socialism, which has plunged much of the world into darkness. 

The national debt stands at about 16.2 trillion, which translates to more than $51,000 per person and over $141,000 per taxpayer.  Our debt to GDP ratio is over 104%.  In the near future, our nation will be forced to borrow 50% of the money we need to meet the spending demands regardless of whom wins the next Presidential election.  We simply cannot sustain this course, not only for the security of our economy, but for the security of our children and families as well. 

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