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Dominican Engineer
Sister Helen Alford Discusses the Economic Impact of Pope’s Encyclical
BY Edward Pentin REGISTER CORRESPONDENT
August 23-September 5, 2009 Issue |
Posted 8/14/09 at 11:04 AM
As dean of
social sciences at Rome’s Pontifical University of St. Thomas Aquinas (also
called the Angelicum), Dominican Sister Helen Alford is the first woman faculty
head of the university, whose famous alumni include the late John Paul II.
She is also only the second woman to
head a department at any of Rome’s pontifical universities. Born in South
London, Sister Helen studied engineering at the University of Cambridge before
joining the Dominicans and coming to the Angelicum in 1996.
She recently spoke about her journey
to the faith, her views on Pope Benedict XVI’s first social encyclical, Caritas
in Veritate (Charity in Truth), and the impact the document is
likely to have on economics today.
Have the Dominicans always been
dedicated to social justice, or is it something that has only really evolved
since Vatican II?
The order has a particular way of
looking at it, but because numbers are going down, people are concentrating on
what you might call the core business of the Dominicans, which is obviously
more in theology and philosophy and to be more direct evangelizers and
preachers.
But there is a tradition of
Dominican involvement in social justice. … St. Thomas [Aquinas] has a lot of
writings, being a pre-Reformation theologian, on politics and economic
questions, and a worldview from the point of view of Christian revelation. So,
Dominicans have always been interested in this.
Everyone thinks of [Hugo] Grotius as
the founder of international law, but really, when people look at it, they
realize that Francisco de Vitoria was very important — and Francisco Suarez.
And not only Dominicans, but Jesuits as well.
The Dominican tradition goes right
back [to] when they would talk about usury, a little bit about slavery, and
there’s still some of that going on, questions to do with bonded labor, and
that was much more important than slavery.
What got you interested in this
field?
It really started at university. I
wanted to study engineering, and I liked sciences, but I didn’t want to do
natural sciences, so I thought it would be more interesting to do engineering.
When I was, I think, in my second
year, one of the lecturers gave us this paper to read — “Engineers and the Work
People Do” by [Howard] Rosenbrock of the University of Manchester Institute of
Science and Technology. That really hit me between the eyes.
Would you say there’s visible
evidence that economies have become more human-centered?
It’s possible to think that it has,
but it depends a lot on a number of factors: How short-term is the vision of
the management? How much do they see the importance of the human being?
Would you say the corporate
world has become more just?
It’s really difficult to say. It has
changed, but whether you could say overall it has become more just, I don’t
know.
In the encyclical, the Pope points
out that in some areas we have seen progression, but in others regression, and
at the end of the day, it’s hard to say. It wouldn’t cost these people that
much more to give people [living in labor camps and sweat shops] a living wage
and not to practically lock them up in camps.
In a way, because those jobs would
be going to poorer people at home, we’re playing off the poor people in our
country against even poorer people in a poorer county. But these rich people
are playing off vulnerable groups in society and getting the best deal for
themselves, saying in the end it’s best for the poor people.
Does the encyclical address
these issues well?
Well, it does talk about
international inequalities. It’s already a very long document, and some people
have said it’s a bit too long. It’s very aware of this issue, and anyone who
wants to take Catholic social teaching seriously in this kind of field — top
Catholic managers who have plants in Angola or Dubai, for example — if they
read this kind of thing, they should ask themselves twice.
It’s not easy to find a solution
because they’re not necessarily the ones ultimately pushing for this.
Behind them are all the
shareholders, so they’re not always in an easy position, but when they say they
can’t do anything else — anyone who knows anything about business strategy
knows there’s always another way of doing things.
You can find another way if you want
to. That’s another way this encyclical is important because it gives people a
motivation.
Interestingly, the encyclical says
that love is this motivational force that makes us work for development. He
focuses first on that. And, you know, these top managers are not nasty people
with no ethical values — if they really have that force of love within them to
push them, they could come up with better solutions than this.
It comes down to the Golden
Rule, “Do to others as you would have them do to you.” If they only realized
that, perhaps?
Yes, absolutely. Sometimes people
feel completely powerless in the face of the huge world economy, but in terms
of the world market, there are 700 big multinationals. They control the vast
bulk of trade that’s going on.
Okay, it’s 700, but it’s not
thousands or millions; it’s 700 top managers around the world who together
influence what’s going on. It’s not an impossible number to deal with, given
the size of the employees and that kind of thing. They’re used to dealing with
big numbers.
They could come up with much better
solutions but must have motivation to do it. It’s also very important that the
shareholders too pick this up, and that’s where ethical finance is very
important. If you have shareholders really grinding down on you for short-term
results, it is much harder to come up with creative solutions.
Edward Pentin writes
from Rome.
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