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Henry VIII, 500 Years Later
Historians Debate His Split From the Church and Its Repercussions
BY EDWARD PENTIN ROME CORRESPONDENT
June 14-20, 2009 Issue |
Posted 6/5/09 at 7:07 AM
King Henry VIII may have lived five centuries ago,
but he remains much in the news.
April
21 marked the 500th anniversary since his accession to the English throne, and
June 11 marked 500 years since he married his first wife, Catherine of Aragon.
His
insistence on a divorce from Catherine, against the wishes of Pope Clement VII, led to England’s break with Rome 25 years later and set the country on a Protestant
path — one that would have enormous consequences for England, the Church and
the world.
Three
leading English historians were asked to put Henry’s actions into proper
perspective.
The
panel is comprised of Jesuit Father Norman Tanner, professor of Church history
at the Pontifical Gregorian University in Rome; Eamonn Duffy, Catholic
professor of the history of Christianity at the University of Cambridge; and
David Starkey, an atheist and former professor of history at the London School
of Economics and biographer of Henry VIII.
Father Norman Tanner
Hilaire
Belloc once wrote that had Henry not broken with Rome “the Reformation would
have failed and our civilization would have been today one Christian thing.” Is
this true, in your view?
Yes
and no. England was a very important part of the Reformation, as he said, and
it’s in some ways surprising it happened in England, which was very devoted to
the Catholic Church in the late medieval period.
It
wasn’t as if there was a huge amount of discontent. It was notable for its
loyalty to the papacy, on the whole. It might well have been that England would
have remained Catholic [had Henry not pushed for a divorce against the wishes
of Rome]. In that sense, he’s absolutely right.
On
the other hand, there are other very important contributions to the
Reformation: Germany, of course, the Netherlands and Scandinavia. There were
other countries which remained Catholic and were on the edge and might have
become Protestant, as it were.
What have
been the most serious repercussions of Henry’s break with Rome that can still
be felt in the Church and the world today?
They’ve
been huge, really.
One
very important and energetic part of the Catholic Church went its own way, of
course. There were many faults within the Catholic Church; one understands that
it’s open to criticism, but, nevertheless, this very important part of the
Church became, at least partially, separated.
It’s
certainly true that the Reformation contributed to the development of nation
states, both England and all the countries of Europe, [so] in some obvious
sense, the unity of medieval Christendom was fragmented. … It led to a kind of
exaltation of the nation state, especially in the Protestant countries where
the ruler, Henry VIII, made himself supreme governor of the Church as well as
king.
Eamonn Duffy
How true
is it that had Henry not broken with Rome, the Reformation would have
failed and our civilization would have been unified?
Duffy:
That’s just not true. The Reformation in Europe had established itself fairly
strongly in middle Europe, in Czechoslovakia, Poland, Germany, and I don’t
think English events had much impact on the subsequent development of that.
The
English Reformation contributed very little to the maintenance of the
Reformation abroad, although there wouldn’t have been a Reformation in Scotland
— that’s clear. The English promoted a Reformation in Scotland.
What have
been the most serious repercussions of Henry’s break with Rome that can still
be felt in the Church and the world today?
I
don’t know if it led to the growth of the nation state. You can see very
similar developments in Catholic France. The crown of France seized control of
France, for example, not at the cost of schism, but the growth of Gallicism.
The
French monarchy appointed all the bishops and didn’t allow papal documents into
France without royal permission. So you can see strengthening of the nation
state happening anyway. The English example was one of a wider phenomenon. That
was what [Cardinal Thomas] Wolsey’s legatine powers were all about. Wolsey was,
in effect, the pope in England, and the very wide powers that Wolsey exercised
meant that all sorts of things in other circumstances that would have been
referred to Rome were dealt with domestically.
That’s
what Henry had achieved without a break with Rome. The break with Rome meant he
could seize the Church’s property and he could take control of doctrine as well
as the day-to-day running of the Church. But it’s, if you like, an extreme
development that a lot of rulers in Europe wanted to achieve anyway.
David Starkey
Hilaire
Belloc once wrote that had Henry not broken with Rome “the Reformation would
have failed and our civilization would have been today a one Christian thing.”
How true is this statement, in your view?
Whether
the whole Reformation would have failed if England hadn’t waded in at that
stage is an open question.
I
think there’s no doubt whatever that first Henry, then Edward, and then, much
more importantly, Elizabeth, led to one of the major European powers becoming
Protestant in the late 16th century, and that has an enormous impact on the
broader European structure.
It
certainly entrenches the Reformation and arguably ensures its worldwide
triumph, which is what happens with the establishment of British America and
its fundamental Protestantism. I think the broad thrust of what Belloc says is
right.
What have
been the most serious repercussions of Henry’s break with Rome that can still
be felt in the Church and the world today?
What
everyone is now recognizing is what everyone’s motives may have been, good or
bad. And, I think, largely [during the Reformation] they were bad, in the sense
that they were about self-fulfillment.
The
old high-Protestant English view, that Henry was operating out of high moral
motives and had profound high moral scruples about his first marriage, is
manifest nonsense. He decides to marry Anne first and then, afterwards, decides
to develop moral scruples like a bad case of German measles.
Nevertheless,
what he did is of the most profound significance to the history of England and
Europe. He represents a watershed in the medieval world in Europe. To talk
about England not being fully part of Europe would have been nonsense [before
Henry].
Again, the English idea of national
destiny, empire and so on goes back to Henry. The Elizabethans are picking it
up and running with it. Equally, of course, Henry shows no interest whatever in
foreign exploration. On the other hand, the late generation of Henricians are
precisely the pioneers of that idea and the whole development, not simply of
the nation state, but a national church, as well — the idea of a national
church because the nation state is sacred.
In
the Middle Ages, of course, the universal Church is the vehicle of God’s
revelation. For Henry and Henricians, it’s the nation.
What
Henry did was a profoundly important thing, and the consequences of what he did
are profoundly important. As I’ve been arguing in my biography in the
exhibition at the British Library, he still fundamentally shapes our world.
He
is, in terms of effect, by far the most important monarch of England — for better and for worse.
Edward Pentin writes
from Rome.
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