“We need to get back to holding people accountable for their choices, and that includes people in the Catholic Church.”  Amen.  Thank you for this nice article.  I truly enjoyed reading it.

A great football coach and a great man, too. I still am baffled by Notre Dame’s decision to let him go years ago.

What a great narrative. He’s one of the nicest guys and warm faces for College football. Seems like he is as nice (or nicer) is real life from this story.

Have met Lou on a couple of occasions and can say that he deals with folks just like he says in his philosophy. 

He offered to help our Club in any way we needed or wanted.  Never had anyone do that before or since.

Charlie Kenny

@Woody “...baffled by Notre Dame’s decision to let him go…”

Holtz resigned of his own volition.  Although his snake-in-the-grass defensive coordinator did help push him along.  10 years in that pressure cooker is more than plenty for a man’s mental health.

No one will ever know the full story; however, Lou left after having wonderful relationships with two of the best ADs in ND history and could not develop a solid relationship with Mike Wadsworth, who was not qualified to be an AD and “cracked down” on Lou limiting his recruiting.

Charlie

Thank you for this article and interview. There is a reason Lou is regarded as a great leader: Integrity. Our organization (Main Library at ND) had the honor to hear him speak on building how we can be effective in our own lives.

Lou inspired us (then) and inspires us now through his humility and honesty about some of his tough times, including when he was let go from ND. He spoke without rancor or apology. Mostly, he gave example after example of how we can, despite whatever road blocks or injustices comes our way, still be the captain of our own ship—with Faith and in his case, a beautiful partner at his side.

In reading Coach Holtz’s responses to questions, it is easy to see both how and why he became great.

Great man. Lou has a superb football mind. Always enjoy hearing his opinions on ESPN, although they’re skewed toward ND. His devotion to ND is nice but misguided.

Glad that ND still has Masses and Confessions. What ND’s leadership has done in the political arena (Clinton and Obama, however, is reprehensible. Arguably, even worse, is the infamous “Land O Lakes Declaration” of the 1960s that all but destroyed Catholic higher education—the brainchild of Fr. Hesburgh.

Fr. Hesburgh, Fr. McBrien and Fr. Jenkins should receive our prayers.

@Charlie - I think I mostly agree with you Charlie, and the truth is that Lou did get away with a little more lax academic standards.  And then Karen Dunbar…and Joe Moore…among other murky things that may or may not have any truth at all. 

At the end of the day though, he is an important and significant part of the ND history and has continued to be a fantastic ambassador for Our Lady’s University and for the Congregation of Holy Cross.

What a wonderful testimony from someone I remember so well from his great coaching years at my alma mater, the University of Arkansas, and at Notre Dame as well.  And what a great plug for marriage that I recommend highly after the 58 years my wife and I had. I wish them many more years together, and I hope they close each day with a big hug being thankful they still have each other. That can end so quickly.

@William McCormick

1) this article has nothing to do with ND haters (large majority of who weren’t qualified for admission) obsessing over United States Presidents.  Get off it.

2) you have no clue as to what you are talking about

We need so many more Lou Holtz’s in this world.  What a great guy…

Re: “Andrew”

Mr. McCormick may be a disgruntled reject from the admissions department, and he may have no clue what he is talking about.

But his brief statement is not entirely inaccurate. Fr. Hesburgh’s Land O’Lakes Statement was a disaster. And we can’t exactly pretend that Fr. Jenkins’ “dialogue” with President Obama has gone well.

None of that, of course, means that Coach Holtz—-or any of the rest of us who do—-is misguided for loving Our Lady’s University. It’s McCormick’s loss that he doesn’t.

Andrew ...your comments concerning William McCormick’s remarks
were rude and un-called for…Mr McCormick is entitled to state
the facts as he sees them…I happen to agree, especially about
that *fatal* Land of Lakes Conference engineered by Fathe Hesburgh
and one cannot discuss Notre Dame without it coming up. Truly it
gave the impetus to the downward slide of higher Catholic
education.
Mr HOltz long association with Notre Dame and his thoughts about his
time there invite many reactions, and Mr McCormick should be free to
express his own.

Sorry, I’m not as impressed with Lou Holtz as many of the people are on this site. He donated $2,300 to Hillary Clinton’s presidential primary campaign in 2008 and donated to a Delaware candidate, Carper (can’t remember first name), who was pro-abortion, pro-contraceptives to kids, pro-embryonic stem cell research.

Don’t put your trust in princes. They’ll always let you down. Lou’s subtle comment, “Do I agree with the practical decisions of Church leaders on some things? Certainly not.”  What exactly does he mean by that? Contraception? Abortion? Homosexual acts? Divorce?  Sounds like a cafeteria Catholic to me. Especially given his promotion of HIllary Clinton for president.

Coach Holtz has alwasy beena a blessing to my family with his wonderful inspirational messages.

It is sad if Coach Holtz was encouraged to leave Norre Dame by selfish people. Lou has showed his wonderful character by continuing to show his love and support for Notre Dame.

I was commenting on Lou from my personal experiences with him.  That is all.

Land o’Lakes is another story entirely.

Also, we don’t know that he was let go.  Actually, don’t think he was; but the Wadsworth relationship was not working and not surprisingly because Mike was a failure as AD all around.  No experience in college athletics…  So, no wonder.

Also, I have heard him speak about 10 or 12 times and he is one of the best speakers in the world.  And inspiring and effective.

As for Hillary, well, Billary represented Lou in the infamous case when he left three AA players at home for disciplinary reasons, so he has a close relationship with the Clintons.  Besides he donated to her primary campaign, not her campaign for president.  In retrospect a better choice from a Catholic perspective than her opponent then.

Charlie

@ThirstforTruth & Titus

“that *fatal* Land of Lakes Conference engineered by Fathe Hesburgh
and one cannot discuss Notre Dame without it coming up.”

Not true, I speak with ND students and parents, both hopeful and current, staff, alumni, admirers and detractors, on an almost daily basis.  Here’s a fact, Land O’ Lakes virtually never comes up.  That is what one calls a fact.  What you suggest is accurately described as a myth.

“we can’t exactly pretend that Fr. Jenkins’ “dialogue” with President Obama has gone well.”

And so you’re saying the Bishop’s dialogues with President Obama have gone swimmingly?  This is the problem with insular thinking right-wingers in our Church.  It’s like little children who want to take their ball and go home if the game isn’t going their way.  Ignoring and not engaging the forces in any society has never helped, and never will.

Criticizing ND is fine.  To say it has participated in or precipitated a downfall of Catholicism and Catholic education in this world is simply ignorant and harmful.

To suggest that Notre Dame has been anything but positive for advancing the cause of Catholicism in this country and the world is absurd.

@Andrew…Sorry you are just patently wrong regarding Lakes Conference and
you should be better informed before suggesting it is all “myth”. Go do
the research! As for it never comes up in interviews with prospective parents? Why is that? I can bet YOU don’t bring it up…and obviously
the parents are ignorant of this important piece of ND history if they
are considering ND for their offspring. I am a graduate of St Mary’s and
I followed that fiasco (admittedly long ago) and I know the facts! The
repercussions of that *fatal* conference are still being felt on many so-called Catholic campuses today. Notre Dame sold out their right to call themselves a Catholic institution at the Land of Lakes conference and Lou Holtz may or may not have been a good Catholic…that I cannot judge as
I really never knew him personally. But the institution he represents did
lose its Catholic identity at that historic conference.

Lou, I was educated by the Sisters of Notre Dame as well and currently work in a school owned by the SND’s and Marianist. It is a wonderful atmosphere to grow and work in.Thanks for always being there for the Irish!

Well, Thirstfortruth

Sorry to you, but you have passed judgement on me and you seriously don’t have clue as to what I know about Land O’Lakes:

I am an ND grad
I have actually been to the Land O’Lakes compound
I wrote a thesis on comparing Land O’Lakes to Ex Cordia
My uncle was at Land O’Lakes during the conference

So yes, I am highly qualified to comment on the document.

Charlene

You write beautifully about your Catholic education!!

Just FYI in case you are aware.  The Sisters of Notre Dame are not affiliated with the University of Notre Dame. Notre Dame is a Holy Cross founded and sponsored university.  Again, just FYI in case you weren’t aware

Well, Thirstfortruth

Sorry to you, but you have passed judgement on me and you seriously don’t have clue as to what I know about Land O’Lakes:

I am an ND gradWell, Thirstfortruth

Sorry to you, but you have passed judgement on me and you seriously don’t have clue as to what I know about Land O’Lakes:

I am an ND grad
I have actually been to the Land O’Lakes compound
I wrote a thesis on comparing Land O’Lakes to Ex Cordia
My uncle was at Land O’Lakes during the conference

So yes, I am highly qualified to comment on the document. 
I have actually been to the Land O’Lakes compound
I wrote a thesis on comparing Land O’Lakes to Ex Corde
My uncle was at Land O’Lakes during the conference

So yes, I am highly qualified to comment on the document.  You, on the other hand most likely have not bothered to read the documents.  Like the majority of critics, Have only heard the uninformed information from careless “experts.”

Andrew,

Please share what you can about LOL with us as there is a lot of info out there about it but not much detail.

Charlie

Andrew,

Then there is no excuse for your insults and failure to acknowledge the deleterious affects the Land O Lakes Declaration has had on higher Catholic education. As you know, the infamous document took Catholic higher education away from the Magisterium and into a new world of secularism. Shame on you.

I’m still dealing with this problem in the education of my daughters in Catholic universities.

@ Charlie Kenny For information about the Land O’Lakes Conference convoked by then President Theodore Hesburg go to the following
website:
      http://www.newoxfordreview.org/article.jsp?did=0908-mcintire

and incidentally the information there will prove that dear Andrew
above has not done his research on the subject in an unbiased manner.

@ThirstforTruth & Charlie -

Yes, I have read McIntire’s OPINION piece previously.  This is how you do “research”?  It is tragically untruthful, mis-stated, mis-leading and intellectually vacant.  As I said originally, I would challenge you to actually read the document for yourself instead of this tripe.  For instance:

“Under Land O’Lakes, he said, “it is the Catholic university itself that now is to decide what is, and what is not, ‘Catholic.’” Fr. Hesburgh, to whom the primary authorship of the Land O’Lakes Statement is attributed, boldly admitted as much when he wrote in America magazine in 1986 that a true university cannot allow the Vatican to define what is and what is not authentic Catholic teaching.”

Categorically untrue and barbaric.  Never said, never written, never argued - never happened.

But, I’m not going down this rabbit-hole.  I’ll try to post here the actual statement itself and anybody who is interested can read the ACTUAL document and draw their own conclusions:

Land O’ Lakes Statement

on the Nature of the Contemporary Catholic University

1967

1. THE CATHOLIC UNIVERSITY: A TRUE UNIVERSITY WITH DISTINCTIVE CHARACTERISTICS
The Catholic University today must be a university in the full modern sense of the word, with a strong commitment to and concern for academic excellence. To perform its teaching and research functions effectively the Catholic university must have a true autonomy and academic freedom in the face of authority of whatever kind, lay or clerical, external to the academic community itself. To say this is simply to assert that institutional autonomy and academic freedom are essential conditions of life and growth and indeed of survival for Catholic universities as for all universities.
The Catholic university participates in the total university life of our time, has the same functions as all other true universities and, in general, offers the same services to society. The Catholic university adds to the basic idea of a modern university distinctive characteristics which round out and fulfill that idea. Distinctively, then, the Catholic university must be an institution, a community of learners or a community of scholars, in which Catholicism is perceptibly present and effectively operative.
2. THE THEOLOGICAL DISCIPLINES
In the Catholic university this operative presence is effectively achieved first of all and distinctively by the presence of a group of scholars in all branches of theology. The disciplines represented by this theological group are recognized in the Catholic university, not only as legitimate intellectual disciplines, but as ones essential to the integrity of a university. Since the pursuit of the theological sciences is therefore a high priority for a Catholic university, academic excellence in these disciplines becomes a double obligation in a Catholic university.
3. THE PRIMARY TASK OF THE THEOLOGICAL FACULTY
The theological faculty must engage directly in exploring the depths of Christian tradition and the total religious heritage of the world, in order to come to the best possible intellectual understanding of religion and revelation, of man in all his varied relationships to God. Particularly important today is the theological exploration of all human relations and the elaboration of a Christian anthropology. Furthermore, theological investigation today must serve the ecumenical goals of collaboration and unity.
4. INTERDISCIPLINARY DIALOGUE IN THE CATHOLIC UNIVERSITY
To carry out this primary task properly there must be a constant discussion within the university community in which theology confronts all the rest of modern culture and all the areas of intellectual study which it includes.
Theology needs this dialogue in order:
A) to enrich itself from the other disciplines;

B) to bring its own insights to bear upon the problems of modern culture; and

C) to stimulate the internal development of the disciplines themselves.

In a Catholic university all recognized university areas of study are frankly and fully accepted and their internal autonomy affirmed and guaranteed. There must be no theological or philosophical imperialism; all scientific and disciplinary methods, and methodologies, must be given due honor and respect. However, there will necessarily result from the interdisciplinary discussions an awareness that there is a philosophical and theological dimension to most intellectual subjects when they are pursued far enough. Hence, in a Catholic university there will be a special interest in interdisciplinary problems and relationships.

This total dialogue can be eminently successful:
A) if the Catholic university has a broad range of basic university disciplines;

B) if the university has achieved considerable strength in these disciplines; and

C) if there are present in many or most of the non-theological areas Christian scholars who are not only interested in, and competent in their own fields, but also have a personal interest in the cross-disciplinary confrontation.
This creative dialogue will involve the entire university community, will inevitably influence and enliven classroom activities, and will be reflected in curriculum and in academic programs.

5. THE CATHOLIC UNIVERSITY AS THE CRITICAL REFLECTIVE INTELLIGENCE OF THE CHURCH
Every university, Catholic or not, serves as the critical reflective intelligence of its society. In keeping with this general function, the Catholic university has the added obligation of performing this same service for the Church. Hence, the university should carry on a continual examination of all aspects and all activities of the Church and should objectively evaluate them. The Church would thus have the benefit of continual counsel from Catholic universities. Catholic universities in the recent past have hardly played this role at all. It may well be one of the most important functions of the Catholic university of the future.
6. THE CATHOLIC UNIVERSITY AND RESEARCH
The Catholic university will, of course, maintain and support broad programs of research. It will promote basic research in all university fields but, in addition, it will be prepared to undertake by preference, though not exclusively, such research as will deal with problems of greater human urgency or of greater Christian concern.
7. THE CATHOLIC UNIVERSITY AND PUBLIC SERVICE
In common with other universities, and in accordance with given circumstances, the Catholic university is prepared to serve society and all its parts, e.g., the Federal Government, the inner-city, etc. However, it will have an added special obligation to carry on similar activities, appropriate to a university, in order to serve the Church and its component parts.
8. SOME CHARACTERISTICS OF UNDERGRADUATE EDUCATION
The effective intellectual presence of the theological disciplines will affect the education and life of the students in ways distinctive of a Catholic university.
With regard to the undergraduate—the university should endeavor to present a collegiate education that is truly geared to modern society. The student must come to a basic understanding of the actual world in which he lives today. This means that the intellectual campus of a Catholic university has no boundaries and no barriers. It draws knowledge and understanding from all the traditions of mankind; it explores the insights and achievements of the great men of every age; it looks to the current frontiers of advancing knowledge and brings all the results to bear relevantly on man’s life today. The whole world of knowledge and ideas must be open to the student; there must be no outlawed books or subjects. Thus the student will be able to develop his own capabilities and to fulfill himself by using the intellectual resources presented to him.
Along with this and integrated into it should be a competent presentation of relevant, living, Catholic thought.

Finally:

This dual presentation is characterized by the following emphases:
A) a concern with ultimate questions; hence a concern with theological and philosophical questions;

B) a concern for the full human and spiritual development of the student; hence a humanistic and personalistic orientation with special emphasis on the interpersonal relationships within the community of learners;

C) a concern with the particularly pressing problems of our era, e.g., civil rights, international development and peace, poverty, etc.
9. SOME SPECIAL SOCIAL CHARACTERISTICS OF THE CATHOLIC COMMUNITY OF LEARNERS
As a community of learners, the Catholic university has a social existence and an organizational form.
Within the university community the student should be able not simply to study theology and Christianity, but should find himself in a social situation in which he can express his Christianity in a variety of ways and live it experientially and experimentally. The students and faculty can explore together new forms of Christian living, of Christian witness, and of Christian service.
The students will be able to participate in and contribute to a variety of liturgical functions. They will find the meaning of the sacraments for themselves by joining theoretical understanding to the lived experience of them. Thus the students will find and indeed create extraordinary opportunities for a full, meaningful liturgical and sacramental life.
The students will individually and in small groups carry on a warm personal dialogue with themselves and with faculty, both priests and laymen.
The students will experiment further in Christian service by under taking activities embodying the Christian interest in all human problems - inner-city social action, personal aid to the educationally disadvantaged, and so forth.
Thus will arise within the Catholic university a self-developing and self-deepening society of students and faculty in which the consequences of Christian truth are taken seriously in person-to-person relationships, where the importance of religious commitment is accepted and constantly witnessed to, and where the students can learn by personal experience to consecrate their talent and learning to worthy social purposes.
All of this will display itself on the Catholic campus as a distinctive style of living, a perceptible quality in the university’s life.

10. CHARACTERISTICS OF ORGANIZATION AND ADMINISTRATION

The total organization should reflect this same Christian spirit. The social organization should be such as to emphasize the university’s concern for persons as individuals and for appropriate participation by all members of the community of learners in university decisions. University decisions and administrative actions should be appropriately guided by Christian ideas and ideals and should eminently display the respect and concern for persons.

The evolving nature of the Catholic university will necessitate basic reorganizations of structure in order not only to achieve a greater internal cooperation and participation, but also to share the responsibility of direction more broadly and to enlist wider support. A great deal of study and experimentation will be necessary to carry out these changes, but changes of this kind are essential for the future of the Catholic university.

In fine, the Catholic university of the future will be a true modern university but specifically Catholic in profound and creative ways for the service of society and the people of God.

All one needs really to know is that since the Land O’Lakes conference
our Catholic universities for the most part *have* lost their identities and one would be hard pressed to see the difference between many of them and their secular counterparts..an achievment endorsed by the Conference in their greed for government funds. The fruit of this philosopy is seen in Georgetown’s covering up of the crucifix at the request of Obama before his speech was to be given there to then removal of crucifixes in all classrooms at Boston College to the honorific given at Notre Dame to the most pro-abort President ever to live in the White House. These are not the most egregious examples but perhaps the most flagrantly public.
Why Andrew, should I be more *impressed* with your research (which seems to cover up all this) than with Mr McIntire who seems to come with impressive credentials. Furthermore his assertions are evidenced in the *fruit* we see before us following Land O’Lakes. It has been many years since its recommendations were adopted and the decline of Catholic education and church defections can be in large part traced to the world of *Catholic* academe. In short Andrew, you have not made your case.The
evidence to the contrary is too overwhelming!

Another sound source for the “what the deuce is going on at Catholic
oolleges and universities” can be found in the explosive article exposing
the Land O’Lakes and other noted conferences and statements from the Catholic academe world can be found at the following ural:
     
    http://www.ewtn.com/library/ACADEMIC/CATHACAD.HTM

This is a well documented article by Michael J. Mazza who has done a
terrific job of researching the topic. The title might intrique Andrew.
HEART ATTACK: CATHOLIC ACADEME MEETS “Ex Corde Ecclesia”...a topic dear
to Andrew’s heart!

from quoted Land O Lakes Declaration:

“To perform its teaching and research functions effectively the Catholic university must have a true autonomy and academic freedom in the face of authority of whatever kind, lay or clerical, external to the academic community itself.”

In other words, the Magisterium of the Church will no longer have a say in Catholic university affairs—“true autonomy”. Couldn’t be clearer.

TheLand O’ Lakes Statement and the Notre Dame Conferences “essentially represented their {the participants}declaration of independence from
the juridical control of the Catholic Church, also saw themselves as the true guardians of the Church”. ( from Michael J. Mazza, CAtholic Adademe
Meets ‘Ex Corde Ecclesiae’,p.11)

This is clearly and truly an infamous example of the heresy of Modernism in today’s Church that is so rampant on hundreds of Catholic campuses today. I cannot imagine any Catholic parent who is concerned about the soul of their son or daughter entrusting it to any of these
so-called Catholic campuses.
Your best (and far cheaper) choice would be a well-run state school with an active chapter of a Newman Club if you cannot find a truly Catholic university like Christiandom in Virginia near you. Also you and your student offspring should read carefully the full text of Blessed John Paul II’s Ex Corde Ecclesiae, before starting your search for a college or university.

In line with Coach’s comments I am reminded of a small poster that our dad put in our rooms as kids…..CHARACTER IS WHAT YOU STAND FOR & REPUTATION IS WHAT YOU FALL FOR. This saying also hung in the room of our six children. It has become the theme of a talk I give to High School students. The point is….CHARACTER is what you do when no one is watching.

Any University that calls itself “Catholic” but does not use the “CATECHISM of the CATHOLIC CHURCH, Second Editon” as a REQUIRED student TEXT for all freshman and/or sophomores is not worth its tuition.
The problem starts right at the top with the Board of Trustees.
Studying the CCC in entirety as a REQUIREMENT is a MUST have class that will benefit the student, his future family, and his society.

@ANNE & ThirstForTruth

The good news is that there are enough colleges for you to choose from that will suit your needs.  You don’t need to worry yourself about your kids getting in to Notre Dame.

Andrew…It is NOT my kids I worry about. They are grown and have
families of their own. It is all those kids currently attending
these CINO universities that I worry about…I worry not only about
their being cheated of a solid Catholic education but as a result I am concerned about their eternal souls. I also worry about the souls of those who should know better and are leading souls astray by teaching heresy.
There is no good news here that I can see. My heart goes out to those
who are fighting the battle there and sincere in their efforts to put
ND back on the path of Truth! I have enough faith that with Our Lady’s help and guidance they will succeed. Notre Dame, indeed!
Actuallly Andrew, if anyone is to worry it might be the Trustees of Notre
Dame who if the HHS mandate goes in effect will be subject to paying horrific daily fines for failure to comply. They will hardly be in a position to claim Catholic identity now will they after years of denial and available proof they are not. It would appear there is plenty for them to worry about. As I said, not much good news around the ND campus
these days that I see and they have brought it upon themselves!

ThirstforTruth, “They will hardly be in a position to claim Catholic identity now will they after years of denial and available proof they are not.”

That is beyond an absurd statement.  But I challenge you to do this,  Try actually going to Notre Dame;  sit in on a couple of Theology classes, attend a dorm Mass, attend Mass at the Basilica, attend Mass with the Seminarians at Old College or Moreau, go and listen to a presentation about ACE (Alliance for Catholic Education), listen to what ND sponsored projects are doing around the world to bring the Gospel through Faith & Action, sit down with Fr. Bill Lies, CSC, Vice President for Mission Engagement and Church Affairs, join in daily Vespers, Lauds and pray the nightly Rosary with students and professors gathered at the Grotto, enjoy a pancake breakfast at the ON-CAMPUS Knight of Columbus Hall, and listen in on the many conversations going on around campus at any given time.

All of these things are easily available to you.  Don’t form your opinion based on bombastic diatribes made by critics who are trying to make a name for themselves and increase circulation in their blogs/papers.  Actually experience it for yourself so you can make be truly informed before drawing your conclusions.

I guarantee you will walk away prouder than you ever have been to be a Catholic.

Andrew:

Please do yourself a favor and get off this ND is superior mentality. After implementing the Land O Lakes Declaration, ND is far inferior to what it was before Land O Lakes. Those were the days when I was a huge ND fan.

Andrew,

I think most or even all of what you say is accurate.

ND does a great job of being a Catholic place, but not as good a job of being a Catholic University.

Students have to look carefully and select profs carefully as the majority in disciplines where it matters are secular humanists and their course material reflects their biases.

The Western Catholic Tradition so present and alive in the 50s and 60s has gradually and slowly slipped into the distance.

Why doesn’t the Church do its thinking at Notre Dame, as Fr. Hesburgh famously but inaccurately claimed a long time ago.  It manifestly does not!

Why doesn’t ND lead the world in sanctity of life intellectual and research leadership?

What would Lou Holtz say in private?

You can explore some of these issues in depth at http://www.projectsycamore.com

Charlie

Thanks Charlie….I would urge all here to go the website
provided by Mr Kenny which refutes the idea put forth here
in this combox that Catholicism is alive and well at Notre
Dame University…and the truth about the far reaching effects
of the Land O Lakes on educational institutions formerly Catholic
and now thus in name only.

Bill Dempsey and Project Sycamore are irrelevant and it’s just a front to raise money to pay themselves for doing nothing but cut-past-bellyache.

If you don’t think Notre Dame is a great Catholic institution, then you don’t understand Catholicism. 

Andrew,

Do you know them, the board members that is?

Charlie

Charlie,

The full trustee group is pretty big - around 50 at any given time.  On a personal level I know 6 of the lay trustees, 4 of the C.S.C trustees, probably 6 or 7 current emeriti trustees, and 6 of the Fellows (they are a subset of the trustees).

It is amazing that such a beautiful article highlighting Lou Holtz’s personal wisdom segues into a discussion about Notre Dame, politics, etc.