The human race may (or may not) be responsible for the rise in global temperature over the past several decades. We may be in the hottest years since records were kept, or the observed “pause” in the rise in global temperatures since 1998 may give us pause as to what, precisely, is going on.
But one thing is certain: A number of people, of quite different views, have been busily heating up the debate in anticipation of the June release of Pope Francis’ encyclical on the environment.
Cardinal Oscar Rodriguez Maradiaga, who heads the Pope’s specially selected advisory committee of nine cardinals, responded to questions last month in an appearance at Georgetown University and made a point of emphasizing that the encyclical would focus more on the moral issues than on the science. The Holy See, he said, recognizes that others are in a better position to address the latter. Yet it seems that even this prudential distinction will not suffice to cool down controversy.
Indeed, it has become a kind of “meta” analysis to notice that those of a more conservative bent are pre-emptively drawing that distinction to blunt papal judgments, while those of more liberal inclinations have called the conservative move a species of “cafeteria Catholicism.” In other words, an old and valuable distinction in Catholic social thought has itself now become just one more bone of contention when it comes to the environment.
And then there’s the secular context.
A recent experience that may be illuminating: I was on National Public Radio last week, with three other commentators, discussing what the encyclical might say and the reactions to it. The first was a staffer of the Earth Institute at Columbia University, whose director — Jeffrey Sachs — is a longtime promoter of environmental measures, especially contraception and abortion, for purposes of population control.
Both were invited to Rome to participate in the Holy See’s climate-change summit in late April, and the staffer asserted that there was absolutely no dispute over the science among scientists — though for some reason he felt it necessary to rant for 10 minutes about the absolute lack of controversy.
Next up: A well-meaning Filipino Catholic, justly delighted over the Pope’s visit to his country, innocently argued that the bad storms that accompanied the papal visit were consequences of climate change — an appealing but wrongheaded claim, since scientists themselves warn about connecting warming to specific weather events.
Finally, a young Jewish woman who covers religion for The New York Times was asked to put the controversies into perspective, which she did in an informed and able way — but with an understandable tone deafness about the particular Catholic resonances of a pope talking about our responsibilities as stewards of that creation.
NPR is a kind of secular bellwether in such matters, and it was no surprise when the “moderator” laughed and wondered aloud whether, after all, any of this was very important. Does anyone listen to the Pope anymore, despite his personal charm, even on issues like the environment?
Oh, and I almost forgot: In the midst of all this, NPR wheeled out yours truly, crazy old Uncle Bob — I think just to be able to say that they had. On these occasions, you let him talk enough so as not to insult him while keeping him on a tight leash, but then move along quickly to what everyone who’s anyone knows are the right approaches to these questions.
That’s the general, secular fog that the encyclical will have to cut through in a few weeks.
Just to lay out where I stand personally: It seems to me, as a one-time student of science, that putting fair-sized amounts of carbon dioxide into the atmosphere must have some effect. It’s simple chemistry and physics.
How large and dangerous an effect is difficult to say, because the Earth doesn’t allow us to conduct controlled scientific experiments, whatever the scientists and politicians may have told you. In a real experiment, you have a control system and an experimental one. You change one variable in the latter and observe the results. Done right, you can then say that change X produces result Y.
Climate cannot be subject to such an experiment because there are too many variables, and they’re varying all on their own, even as you’re trying to look at what may be the man-made effects. In the extreme case, you might very well observe all sorts of signs of warming and be fundamentally wrong on the cause because there’s no way to demonstrate cause and effect conclusively.
Further, the computer modeling has not been particularly accurate. Projections have been much higher than the observed reality. Indeed, that “pause” since 1998 has scientists wondering whether oceans are absorbing the extra heat — which may bring yet further problems — or it just may be that the climate is not as sensitive to carbon-dioxide changes as was previously thought. So you want to be constantly checking and rechecking your data and recalibrating assumptions — if you really want to do what’s good for the environment.
This, it seems to me, is what a fair-minded person would want to argue in a Catholic or a secular forum. But good luck getting a hearing in either place.
These subtleties and uncertainties about the science are likely to be overwhelmed by equally unwarranted certainties, in several quarters, about our moral responsibilities. We’re already seeing progressive Catholics gloating over a chance to use the Pope to beat up corporations, oil companies, globalization, meat eaters and other alleged malefactors. The right worries about what unnecessarily stringent environmental measures may do to economic growth, and, along the way, to the very poor Pope Francis has expressed a hope of helping via environmental concerns.
“Prudential judgments,” controversies notwithstanding, are essential here. For instance, there are actually two kinds of “poor.” Each side emphasizes its favorites: Progressives only think of the poor as living in low-lying coastal or tropical areas, who will have their already-precarious lives disrupted if sea levels rise or temperatures spike. Of course, this warrants moral consideration.
But there are also billions of people who desperately need good, old-fashioned economic development — clean water and electricity, for starters — along with responsible government to make sure they can enjoy development peacefully. They, too, should be on our moral radarscopes. In fact, the other group of poor desperately needs development, as well.
It’s likely most of these concerns will be mentioned in the encyclical, but just to notice them is to see — even on the “moral” questions that the Vatican intends primarily to highlight — that there are not only complexities, but conflicting goods, in play. We no longer live in the Garden of Eden and can’t return there until the day when God returns and gives us a New Heaven and a New Earth.
You won’t hear this on NPR after the encyclical is published. And it may be difficult even for Catholic outlets to hold the balance steady. But we need a careful prudence and appreciation of unknowns in dealing with these matters. Resources are always limited and present us, usually, at least in these sorts of matters, with choices about better and worse, not outright good and evil.
The humble but useful term “trade-off” isn’t a battle flag for either camp. But for those of us who care both about the physical environment and what several popes now have called the “human environment,” it may be a notion that we will all want to become much more familiar with in coming months.
Robert Royal, Ph.D., is the founder and president
of the Faith & Reason Institute in Washington
and editor in chief of The Catholic Thing website.



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Wow, such refreshing neoconservative defenses of the status quo within the business community.
As usual, their best pitches seldom hit the strike zone.
Here is another account of the use of fake data and improper, corrupt computer models.
The Deliberate Corruption of Climate Science Paperback – January 21, 2014
by Tim Ball
Visit Amazon.
It is important to realize that all of the global warming / climate change forecasts are based on computer models.
You need to see how they are constructed and how and why the outputs are unreliable.
Please do the reading.
Check it out.
What we are finding is that the opposition to fossil fuels and all the stuff about global warming and climate change is an emotional response to fake data.
The young people responding to the fake data and bogus computer models are providing emotional responses without verifying or auditing the numbers.
Anyway, here is yet another approach to attempt to break through the emotions:
http://joannenova.com.au/2015/05/wind-farms-only-80-effective-at-co2-reduction-0-effective-at-temp-reduction-uk-to-allow-homes-to-stop-turbines/
No wonder becoming chosen to succeed St. Peter is more of a thankless sentence than almost anything else that can be said for the Sacred Office to which Jorge Bergovlio (pls forgive sp) was elected to. It’s one thing to disagree with the Pope’s findings on how our weather patterns have changed so much in recent years.
I feel our liberal Pope is driving people away from the Catholic Church.
If the Pope says there’s global warming, I will humbly disagree with him. We can disagree with him on these matters. Yes, we should be stewards of the earth, I of course believe in clean water and air, but I don’t believe in global warming and nothing the Pope says will make me agree with him on this issue.
To fall into the folly of debating the “science” of the grand hoax is to lose all. It is an leftist political agenda and the players are a scurrilous lot. It raises serious questions as to why the Church is getting involved in such shenanigans under the pretense of stewardship, particularly when the attack on subsidiarity is part of the solution, not to mention, life itself via the “over-population lie.
It’s all natural.
UN guy says so:
http://dailycaller.com/2015/05/22/former-un-lead-author-global-warming-caused-by-natural-variations-in-climate/
This came in this morning; it’s about the fraud and misinformation regarding carbon dioxide:
http://naturalgasnow.org/here-there-be-monsters-the-co2-scare/
If you want heat in winter, air conditioning in summer, electricity for light, and power for bringing water to your house, not to mention preserving food and providing transportation, then you will need to convert potential energy from raw materials and minerals to some usable form that can be harnessed.
No one has yet come up with some radical and new energy form. [Nuclear power comes closest but people are terrified by the math. A fellow named Ed Hiserodt has written a book, “Underexposed: What if radiation is actually good for you?” It is worth reading and has no math.
A lot of misinformation has been put forth ... and there is abundant evidence that there is fraud involved in putting forth that misinformation.
I know that reading science is difficult, but here is a set of a thousand emails written over a period of ten years showing how organized the misinformation is.
They are referred to generally as The East Anglia Emails ... communications back and forth on how to trick us today.
http://www.amazon.com/Climategate-Crutape-Letters-Steven-Mosher/dp/1450512437
They are enough to result in jail time.
If you want to review the actual methods of generating energy, you can visit AbeBooks and buy a copy of Marks’ Standard Handbook for Mechanical Engineers. It has articles and illustrations that are useful for anyone interested in energy. AbeBooks is about the least expensive bookstore around.
If anyone thinks that energy can be developed easily, then I would enjoy reading how it would be done.
I have friends who persist in saying there must be a better way, but none of them have even had a suggestion as to how it might take place.
Joe, lighten up a little. I was having some fun, and in defense of the Pope which in this purportedly conservative-leaning website, there seems to be a lot of coming from the starboard side. I’ll admit that many of my fellow believers in the existence of man-created causes of global warming can be snotty, overbearing, hectoring, etc. In the meantime, I suppose you’re not going to deny the existence of an academic cottage industry of “experts” producing “independent research” disputing the findings of those who believe in Global Warming. It’s an old old old game. Both sides have a lot to lo$e, but the companies most reponsible for producing the pollution have the most and will do whatever it takes to make sure their investors aren’t disappointed. Predictably and pathetically, investors’ profits always come before the overall health and welfare of society.
Climate change or no, burning fossil fuels is filthy, health-destroying, and unsustainable! What the HEY! What is the PROBLEM here? STOP burning filthy fuel and START living with the respect for life and for our children that we SUPPOSEDLY try to steer by. SO sick of people thinking climate change is the only reason to STOP burning FILTHY FUEL! ARRRRRGH! Isn’t our children’s HEALTH—heck our OWN health if we can’t think beyond our selfish selves—ENOUGH? I’m so distressed by people who purport to value life not giving a flying flip about the health of the ecosystems God has given us to live within. Great googley-moogley! Enough, already. Fossil fuels are DEAD fuel, and their use, as with any pathological behavior, holds within it the seeds of destruction. Choose LIFE!!!
Here’s another science site:
https://twitter.com/co2science
Yet another article casting doubt on the veracity of man-made global warming/climate change:
https://sayanythingblog.com/entry/james-kerian-the-man-made-global-warming-hoax-is-over/
Trust & Respect ? How can the Faithful remain so when the Pope backs the likes of ‘kasper’ & his ilk at the Synod & has just appointed the ‘radcliffe’ as one of his advisors. There are many other more important problems facing the Church than the population control garbage on global warming !
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special note to Steven Barrett. Extremely important you do your homework on the issue of human caused global warming. Space/time doesn’t permit me to go on here, strongly urge you and others to go to following links http://www.climatedepot.com http://www.heartland.org and also http://www.petitionproject.com
There is much credible data out there other than these three. Also urge the readers if they haven’t already done so to research reliable data on this issue. Steven is resorting to personal attacks rather than the facts to bolster his case. Excellent recent book “The Moral Case for Fossil Fuels by Alex Epstein.
Rational beings who have the intellectual honesty to examine the issue may avail themselves of the paper at this link,http://wattsupwiththat.com/2015/05/12/22-very-inconvenient-climate-truths/. There is voluminous evidence that the climate change meme is gravely in error and certainly uncertain.
Here’s the blurb from the newsletter, “Access to Energy”:
http://www.accesstoenergy.com
Please do the reading instead of focusing on name-calling.
The name of the author of Dark Winter is John Casey.
Here is a video of his presentation.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gqk8t7CSmfI
There’s a film that shows up on television from time to time.
The title is “Dark Winter”.
I checked and it will be showing at 3pm today.
The schedule is here:
http://www.newsmaxtv.com
The author also wrote a book by the same name.
I DVR’d the film and it is excellent and discusses the data manipulations that have led to the false notion of man-caused global warming.
You can google it as well ... there are some previews of the film on YouTube.
Name calling is not a substitute for doing the reading ... or at least viewing the film.
No polar bear stories, though. Sorry about that.
Here is today’s Carbon Sense newsletter from Australia:
http://carbon-sense.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/nothing-that-works.pdf
After reading much of the above commentary, I’m beginning to wonder how many of you are either wearing collanders wrapped in alum. foil, or you’re trying to snowball some momentum for a fan club on behalf of Oklahoma’s senior US Senator, Jim Imhofe, of recent notoriety for tossing a fat snowball in the Senate while he held the floor. C’mon guys, give it a rest. Why is is so difficult to even give the notion the benefit of the doubt and that perhaps some of our ever so benighted leaders in charge of producing mass quantities of energy, i.e., the Koch Brothers, American Petroleum Council, and of course their flack-cathchers n’ spreaders, their well-financed think tanks in DC like the American Legislative Exchange Council, Heritage Foundation and American Enterprise Institute—are as far from dispensing reliable and factual information about the real extent of the damage to our climate produced by big oil and big chemical producers. C’mon. Do you really want to be lumped in with the flat-earthers, holocaust deniers, and God knows what other “kook scientiests” and professionally paid liars have prostituted themselves to put out for public consumption? If you can’t trust the Church over that lot and others like them, perhaps it’s time for a little faith inventory time of your own.
For the record the issue is “human caused global warming” not “climate change”. The participants at the recent Vatican workshop such as UN’s Ban K-moon and botanist Peter Raven speak of the exploding global population and the need for population control to insure “global sustainability”. Am reminded of Pope John Paul II’s quote at the UN years ago, ” The world doesn’t need fewer people at the table rather more food on the table”. Also St. Augustine’s, “One does not read in the Gospel that the Lord said; ‘I will send you a Paraclete who will teach you about the course of the sun and the moon’.” This quote would have been instructive to Pope Urban VIII in the 17th century when he proclaimed the earth was the center of the universe and threw Galileo under the bus for saying he was in error.
MMGW is the hook that caused the UN years ago to create the International Council for Local Government Initiative and Agenda 21. These UN creations use the false premises and outright lies of MMGW to implement the UN’s “global to local” (its words) power grab. Hundreds of local jurisdictions(mostly Democrat controlled urban juris.) have signed up. The reader needs to ask their local/state officials if they have joined this UN boondoggle and if so to jump ship.
Here is one of the Australian sites:
http://joannenova.com.au
The other group is “The Carbon Sense Coalition”
The computer models are “falling apart”, meaning that as more time and more computer model runs are made, the farther and farther the computer model results get away from reality. The “projected” results coming from earlier model runs do not come anywhere near to close to real data.
You EXPECT the real data to match the computer results, but instead the real data are flat ... but meanwhile the computer results are getting more and more extreme.
Check the results from Dr. Howard Hayden.
Check out his writing and his newsletter, which is “The Energy Advocate”.
Hayden doesn’t work for the government, so he doesn’t have a government check to fund his work, so send him some money for a subscription.
Check also http://www.sepp.org which features the work of Dr. Singer, who was one of the early pioneers in weather and climate.
Also check out Dr. Arthur Robinson who has a web site at http://www.accesstoenergy.org Access to Energy.
There is good information out there about how climate change is on-going all the time and is normal and natural, even if unpleasant at times.
There are some excellent Australian writers as well including Jo Nova.
I will post more later.
CO2 is necessary for all life on earth!!! Fact. Thus, it cannot be inimical to us. Is the earth really warming? Where I live we hardly get any warm weather. We have had long, difficult, cold and snowy winters of late. Hot weather is better than subzero temperatures for human beings and all life. An increase in temperature of the earth has not been shown to be the case. Where is the virtue of honesty in all this? Scientists are quite tempted to lie, since their salary may be ended if they do not fudge their reports. Also,water vapor is what causes earth warming, since it is constitutes the largest gas in the atmosphere, not CO2 or methane. Where are all those protesting the existence of the oceans which are warming us up? The whole CO2 scare is inimical to Catholic teaching since we are to be always open to conception in marriage. The anti-CO2 crowd is anti-natal and anti human, since it makes a false god out of a supposed ideal amount of a a certain atmospheric gas. The poor are particularly hurt by not being able to use cheap energy to develop infrastructure and help lift themselves out of poverty. Shame on all those who promote this dangerous scheme to rob the poor of any possibility of bettering their lives! No informed and loving Catholic can be a part of the global warming scare.
I find it very telling that we cannot discuss GW or CC without mentioning the poor. This entire GW problem is being foisted upon us backed by junk science. When the so-called experts put forward empirical evidence that supports their claim, then they will warrant an attentive, captive audience. This pope needs to stick to teaching the Truth of our faith that can only be found in Divine Revelation through Sacred Scripture, Sacred Tradition and Magisterial teaching. I doubt seriously that the words climate, global, or warming can be found there. Is Pope Emeritus Benedict still available to lead the flock?
Go here and scroll down:
http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2013/11/nongovernmental_climate_scientists_slam_the_uns_ipcc.html
It shows a graph showing many computer models versus actual temperature data. What it tells us is that as the computer models become MORE certain about global warming, the MORE that the models separate or depart from reality.
Check it out.
Lovelock never meant Gaia as a theological statement about the existence of a pagan goddess. She’s a metaphor and that’s all she was ever meant to be. She represents the cybernetic workings of a biosphere.
There are obviously a lot of scientists (and politicians) who believe MMGW is an extremely urgent issue with devastating potential consequences. Maybe they are right, maybe they are wrong. But what if they are right, and we ignrore them, and the consequences are indeed catastrophic? I suppose erring on the side of caution makes sense, if we can do so in a way that does not cause great harm (for example by exacerbating poverty by making it harder for developing countries to obtain electricity, clean water, and food) rather than alleviating it.
But the MMGW agenda is also a political agenda, whereby the “rich” Western nations are demonized for taking more than their fair share of the world’s resources and spewing carbon into the atmosphere that results in MMGW. The claimed efects of MMGW, if they materialize, will be felt primarily by the poor in the developing world because they are least able to adapt to a changing climate.
It should be clear to anyone that Pope Francis sees MMGW as inextricably connected with his condemnation of greedy Western / Northern nations with their throwaway culture of exploitation; a capitalism kills the poor and marginalized; with idolatry of money; with the evils of globalization and “inequality”. I predict we will see much of these themes in the encyclical.
It is very disconcerting to see what has happened with the writing of the encyclical - where only the most committed believers in MMGW have been invited to contribute and anyone who questions the science or policy implications of MMGW has been very publicly excluded from the discussion. Lining up with Jeffrey Sachs and Ban Ki Moon does not give me much confidence.
I suppose this encyclical presents some real opportunities. First, it can co-opt the MMGW movement from the secular atheists and make it a Catholic imperative. This could draw a lot of people to the Church. Second, it could offer a Catholic alternative “response” to MMGW to the population control approach advanced by Sachs. Ban Ki Moon, the US Government and the UN. Third, it could, of written clearly, place the entire environmental movement at the service of God, rather than what we see now, which is a movement with Gaia at the center.
Seems I read that much of the input was by the “Justice and Peace” people which really gives confidence that it’s basis is science.
Again, with the Church, family and culture, in deep trouble and our moral climate the real issue, a near silence on sin and salvation and this entire focus on the here and now tainted with a very heavy semblance of politics, one has to wonder just how far the Church has altered her mission as the socialists promised—from salvation to social justice.
It’s not a hoax, the effects are already being observed, and a much warmer Earth will be inimical to the continued existence of large numbers of human beings. Single-celled organisms will do just fine.
My first suggestion to Mr “Ghonadz” is to take a deep breath. And then, do some research on facts.
I will add this one, though: Let us assume that CO2 IS as bad as he says (it is not but let us grant that it is). The effect of CO2 on out climate is, as it has always been before man and after him if we keep warring with each other, self-correcting. How? If CO2 WERE building up it would indeed warm us up… but only for a time. The blanket it would form (as it has) would reduce the impact of the sun on the planet and that would REDUCE temperatures. When that happens, the waters would cool (as they have) AND CO2 redissolves in the now cooler water (think “chilled carbonated beverages” vs ones that are warm) and the cycle begins again.
But this venue is not for debating MMGW pro or con, but rather the wisdom or not of the Pope’s involvement in/support of this hoax (or not a box—it does not matter) as a detail, rather than in his more rightful concern for man’s treatment of the environment per se. I said below, I say again: His office is NOT competent to take a stand here, but it IS competent to discuss the moral issues re man’s use of God’s creation.
“Man-made.” Hmm…what is man that you should be mindful of him? I laugh at the prideful notion that man is changing the climate through CO2 (that’s carbon dioxide) emissions. I watched the video made by John Coleman (founder of The Weather Channel)talking about volcanic activity and it’s contribution to CO2 (that’s carbon dioxide)in the atmosphere, how even if ALL volcanic activity ceased immediately it would be years to see a significant downtrend in atmospheric CO2 levels. If all the politicians and government-fed researchers who are so sure of the significance of man’s contribution to global warming (oops! “climate change”)want to make a personal effort to slow man-made CO2(got it now?)contributions to the atmosphere, please! just hold your breath for 10 minutes a day. The cost is nil and we’d all be better off.
Those who deny the scientifically affirmed reality of human caused global warming and call it a “hoax” are not defending Christianity or the Catholic Church…..they are defending their own personal superstitions and political and economic obsessions. The scientific evidence supporting the reality of AGW is overwhelming. On this entire planet, there are no scientific organizations of international standing who deny he reality of human caused global warming and its consequent climate changes. Those who deny science to support their superstitions are doomed to complete irrelevance.
what was causing climate change for the first four billion years of the earth’s life, before mankind was even here?
why would anyone think the earth’s climate should be static (unchanging)?
if the science were dependable, why would the models not be able to project the climate five or ten years from now instead of only being able to project the climate fifty or one hundred years from now.
why are the advocates for doing something about CO2 in the atmosphere not providing charts that reflect all of the factors that determine the earth’s temperature and how those factors interact with each other? is it because CO2 is the sole factor involved in determining the earth’s temperature and climate?
how do the climate scientists define the earth’s temperature and how do they document it? why do they believe they can accurately determine the earth’s temperature?
how do the climate scientists know that a warmer earth is a more malevolent earth for human beings?
I have tried to find the answers to my above questions, but I have not been able to find anything that adequately answers them.
without answers to the above questions, it seems foolish to take action.
from a theological standpoint, could it be nature’s way of providing for human beings by allowing the earth to become warmer due to the increase in human population? could a warmer climate provide a better environment for an increase in the food we need to support the earth’s growing number of human beings?
we know that plant life thrives in CO2 enriched atmospheres. plant life is the source of all life on earth and also provides us with the oxygen we need.
“He thought he saw an argument that proved he was the Pope;
He looked again and saw it was a bar of mottled soap.
‘A fact so dread,’
He faintly said,
‘Extinguishes all hope!’”
There are a lot of people here who are not scientists, but feel free to pontificate on science, and are not the Pope, but unlike the Mad Gardener, fail to look again and see that fact.
Sorry, all you climate change deniers, but the second comment by George hit the nail on the head. Too many folks in the “traditional” Catholic movement are using their faith to cover a value system which is just warmed over late 19th century Manchesterian liberalism: that is, free market capitalism and endless economic growth is a god. I do not feel in the least bit “deprived” while driving my 50 miles per gallon, extremely safe, German diesel powered car to work; meanwhile,I get to observe “patriotic” Americans spending 3 times as much as I do on gas as they speed by in their bloated SUV’s. The opposition to the Pope’s Encyclical has nothing to do with Catholicism and everything to do with consumption for its own sake…
Does the Vatican oppose any limits on population growth? To my understanding it opposes artificial contraception and abortion. It would seem that natural methods of population limits are not opposed by the Vatican.
Why I am not keeping a cool head over the upcoming environmental encyclical? I’ve researched the following:
Because if you check the facts coming out of the Vatican, the Pope has consulted with the Obama Administration on the environmental encyclical with EPA Secretary Gina McCarthy meeting at the Vatican to coordinate responses on the environmental encyclical.
Contrary to your comments, the Vatican has been repeatedly and closely advising with Jeffrey Sachs, the UN Population Control, Abortion Promoter and Sustainable Development Czar. In fact, the final Vatican environmental mission statement was co-drafted by Sachs, who along with the UN Secretary General Ban Ki Moon, met privately with the Pope in anticipation of the upcoming environmental encyclical. The Pope said that he hopes that his encyclical will promote the UN Sustainable Development Goals which are predicated on population control. Read any of Sachs’ books, speeches or pronouncements. He makes no secret of his tactics to reduce the population in developing countries.
Finally, the Vatican’s complete reliance on the radical left climate change position and scientists is extremely troubling. The Pope stated that he believes climate change is 90% or more caused by man. For the last two years, the Vatican has consulted almost completely with the radical left environmentalists in preparation of the encyclical. This is the background and expertise relied upon by the Vatican.
Keeping a cool head about the Pope’s embrace of the global warming hoax lures the faithful into complacency.
The article by Dr. Royal amounts to ignorant deceitful nonsense. As do most of the comments. There is no doubt scientifically that mankind’s actions, primarily burning fossil fuels and deforestation, are entirely responsible for the current very abrupt rise in atmospheric carbon dioxide levels from 280ppm to over 400ppm; an extremely high level that is over 43% higher than the natural range of CO2 levels (at this point in geological history), which have not gone over 300ppm at any point in the last two and a half million years. Nor is there any doubt scientifically that these extremely elevated and un-natural CO2 levels are pretty much entirely responsible for the very abrupt global warming trend that is warming the atmosphere, the oceans and the cryosphere (i.e. - melting the Arctic ice cap, Greenland, Antarctica, and most of the world’s mountain glaciers). Almost every point of “science” that Dr. Royal raises is simply wrong. Climate models are, in fact, fairly successful and there has been no “pause” in the relentless increase in the amount of solar energy being retained every day by the excess CO2 in our atmosphere now. Scientists are not unclear about the fact that more heat has been going into the oceans - they can directly measure the increase. Climate scientists are pretty sure at this point that climate sensitivity is on the high side of the predicted possibilities, not the low side. Casting spurious doubt on well founded science that has convinced virtually the entire world scientific community, and trying to conflate your supposed doubts about the science with your rather obvious political opposition to environmental concerns and the necessary steps to deal with them, is not very moral, Dr. Royal, and only makes me wonder about your non-religious political and economic affiliations and agendas and backers.
I pray that the Holy Spirit will guide his message. We’ve already seen so many examples of the progressive twisting of his words to fit their agenda. American Catholics are already confused and misinformed ... and the lack of moral coueage from most pastors is so very sad!
I agree, we don’t need an Encyclical on the Environment. I found this last night by Saint John Paul II. I’m no pope, but it seems that these two sentences are the closest thought I can think of as to what could or should be the thesis of such an encyclical:
“Only the human person, created in the image and likeness of God, is capable of raising a hymn of praise and thanksgiving to the Creator. The earth, with all its creatures, and the entire universe call on man to be their voice.” Homily, San Antonio, TX 1987.
Isn’t that what the environment is for - to praise God, because we can know He exists by the order of nature.
Where’s al gore ? Is it global warming or global cooling I get confused ?
Google CFACT.
“...it may be a notion that we will all want to become much more familiar with in coming months.”
Yes, like it or not. The agenda has been set for a while now.
One hardly can recognize the Church of the gospels anymore, with spires tumbling, pews echoing, Catholic babies being slaughtered with clear consciences, and gays being given “pastoral” care to the point of sacrilege and desecration of the sacred sacraments.
Whatever happened to the mission of salvation and the Church militant’s ongoing war against sin? Must we turn to Caesar for paradise here and now?
Is fighting the accelerating destruction of souls really all obsession, or is the “spirit of Vatican” II the new Church mission?
The pope needs to stick to the moral issues and steer clear of the details; he is not competent to speak to them and it will be embarrassing in the near future when the hoax of MMGW is finally realized.
First: Does man have an impact on warming (if there is indeed any going on outside normal cycles)? Of course, but think of man as a small dog riding an elephant over a bridge. Take away all of man and you have the elephant.
Secondly: The hysteria over GW arising from CO2 is bogus on several accounts, including the c=fact that it has been as much as 10X what it is today before man showed up as a “polluter”. The focus on CO2, however, distracts from where he is doing REAL damage: Water. His impact on the air, at least here in the US has been reduced, if not eliminated (I used to live in LA! It is better now, while our water is worsening).
Thirdly: The inconsistency of urgency and who (persons)/what countries (3rd world) get a pass on the “urgent” attention to MMGW makes the real issue become clear for all who choose to see it: Global wealth redistribution. It is indeed needed, but would be most unpopular. Creating an hysteria to allow increased competitiveness by the 3rd world gets by without a word.
There are many more such misinformation points, but those should be enough for a brief post.
And, I AM a “denier”—the religion of environmentalism priests have so named those who do not agree—but I am also a PhD scientist, among 30,000 plus who signed the relevant document so declaring the hoax of MMGW.
Thanks Mr. Royal! This was a well needed read.
Brian, he was referring to himself when he spoke about them wheeling out crazy old uncle Bob. Meaning he was the counter point for the sake of claiming some balance in their reporting.
The U.N. pushes for population control. Pope Francis who said that women should not breed like rabbits fits right in.
Because of my training in weather, during my stint in the USAF, I understand the idea that climate change is being caused by man is bogus.Because we were talking about the giant reserves in the USA 30 years ago while working in Saudi Arabia, I ask myself, “who is benefiting from the argument?” Besides those writing books, the big winner is: Are you ready for this? The oil and gas industry. Because of climate change they are having their competition, the coal industry, being eliminated for them. At the same time, the government is working with them to limit the develop of reserves. Anything to keep the price of crude higher than the true market price.The higher price at the pump increases the take on taxes and allows for the hidden profit in a market price that is inflated.
Only in Catholic America would we read such an apologetic and “nervous nellies” column!! The rest of the civilized world, including Catholics in all those civilized countries, have passed well beyond the climate change denial stage! Scientists are overwhelmingly in agreement that major climate changes are occuring because of the action of mankind. It is really, really funny (and sad!) to see that in the USA, in 2015, Catholics are even debating that! Come on, American Catholics, join the rest of the world’s well informed Catholics and support Pope Francis in clearly stating that God created the universe so that men (and women!) take care of God’s creation because it is good!
The pope is following the trend of the world, man-made climate change that will further enrich the rich and powerful and worsen the plight of the poor and powerless, next will be communion for the divorced, and welcoming in practicing homo-sexual.
Does it bother anyone else, that this “Who am I to judge” Pope, deems himself incompetent to judge a moral issue, like sexually deviant priests, but is competent to pass judgement on disputed scientific issues? Just asking.
As the Vicar of Christ on Earth, how can Pope Francis devote even one moment of his time to addressing worldly concerns like climate change?? I cannot imagine Christ sitting down to prepare such an encyclical. Spiritual matters, not the noise of the secular world, should be Number One on the list of Christian priorities.
We are living in times unlike anything since the days of Noah. The worldwide rejection of the laws laid down by the Creator has given us the breakdown of the family, the legalized killing of the unborn, the complete denial of sin with the resulting disintegration of all moral standards, and the loss of peace in the lives of individuals, families and nations everywhere. Direct confrontation of these evils should head the list of Christian priorities.
To me, it is the epitome of human pride to think, let alone believe, that man has the wisdom and the power to exert control over God’s universe. Who but God alone can command the sun, the moon or the stars to change their ways? What man can calculate the energy or determine the next area in which Earth will experience changes in weather and climate? Climate change is subject to the will of God, not to the will of man.
Could someone please explain why we changed the terminology from GLOBAL WARMING to CLIMATE CHANGE?
We shouldn’t be mollified by the assurance that “the encyclical [will] focus more on the moral issues than on the science.” If the Pope won’t deal with the science, how can he conclude whether human activity is having any effect on the climate? And if we aren’t having a dangerous effect, why is there a moral obligation to do anything? In other words, before any moral conclusions can be drawn, the science must be understood. I agree that he probably won’t get into the science, but there is nothing reassuring about that.
Mr. Royal is very gentle, but accurate, in his critique of what passes for science. The promoters of the claim that human-caused CO2 is causing dangerous global warming have never published strong evidence that is happening. Their models assume that it will happen and their models are veering more and more from reality. They ignore the other very strong drivers of climate: the sun, ocean currents, clouds, cosmic radiation, orbital variations. Everyone should ask himself why this is so. What is the agenda?
If the encyclical accepts the so-called consensus that human activity in producing CO2 is causing dangerous warming and draws moral conclusions that encourage reducing the access of the poor to energy, it will be a great disaster for the poor and for the credibility of the Church. Maybe it will try to say that CO2 must be reduced but that “clean energy” must be made available to the poor, but that is not practicable on anything like the scale necessary to drive development.
I don’t see anything good coming from this encyclical.
JMJ I don’t understand why when I read articles on Catholic websites or in their newspapers the mention Jesus or ask us (readers Catholic, Protestants (Not reformers but in Revolt against God’s authority on Earth,the Catholic church, with the Popes in the chair of St. Peter)it Rare when I see the author or commentators mention or ask readers to pray for the Holy Spirit’s 7 Gifts and fruits for all involved the conferences, political, secular or religious etc. JMJ at the start helps me to be Loving in my comments.Some will say we don’t have to do this, I say We Do!!! Otherwiser it’s Your Will we are told to accept in what we do, it’s Thy (the Father’s) Will be done. Respectfully with Love, Joseph J. Pippet, N. Cape May, N.J.
“But there are also billions of people who desperately need good, old-fashioned economic development — clean water and electricity, for starters — along with responsible government to make sure they can enjoy development peacefully. They, too, should be on our moral radarscopes. In fact, the other group of poor desperately needs development, as well.”
This is not a “conflicting good” with respect to the interests of those “other poor” you mention. Clean water and clean air both demand that we stop BURNING things, especially super-filthy fossil fuels, for energy. Clean and long-term sustainable electricity needs to be modeled on how the other living systems of the earth already (and always) obtain their energy (i.e., from the sun and the earth itself—this may mean solar, wind, or geothermal energy). The only people with a vested interest in everyone’s continuing to live like cavemen, burning dirty fuels for energy, are the people who sell and make money from all that filthy stuff. Clean energy quite literally hits you on the head every time you walk outside. Clever people are already finding CHEAP ways to use that energy to cook food, distill water, power well pumps, etc.—even in, actually especially in, the poorest areas of the world.
There is more evidence for Elvis and flying saucers than there is for man-made climate change. If climatology was held to the same standards of certainty as physics (two standard deviations), the panelists would be relegated to the bin of the spontaeous generators, ether transmitters and eye of newt medical practitioners. There is more actual evidence (and yes, peer reviewed) that solar activity has a greater effect on climate than anything mankind does with the possible exception of entremely local events such as forest fires and arborial destruction. For a view from history, there was the great warming from the 11th through the 14th centuries and the cooling from the late 18th tio the middle 19th centuries, all independent of human activity. The Church does not need to get into another scientific controversy as eithr arbiter or advocate. The best course of action would be to step back, silently repeat “Galileo” and move on to spiritual matters.
Remember, fellow Catholics, this encyclical will have the same weight and authority as Humanae Vitae.
Peace to all!
I think it is important to give the Holy Father the same chance that we would give (or gave) his predecessor in terms of the ‘Pacem’ encyclical. Pacem en terras didn’t describe technical features of how to avoid war or which side of the table discussants a peace talks should sit. Instead, it described Christ’s teaching in a context of a peaceful way forward, stretching from family to globe.
Perhaps the most pivotal issue in global warming is causality, and although the Church is not an atmospheric science institute, I would not underestimate Catholic scholarship in terms of epistemology and ontology, nee causation.
Finally, we may have derailed the true meaning of terms such as conserve-atism, in terms of this debate. Think about it. Go for it Papa - feel blessed to live at this time. Tom.
The world, the flesh and the devil Could it be that these storms, droughts, etc. are the result of deliberate actions of those who have the power and money, those who serve the prince of this WORLD in their agendas for depopulation? Could they be the result of mother nature reacting to the spilling of innocent blood in abortion, loss of faith, rise of paganism, the FLESH? Could they be the result of the prince of the world, the DEVIL, directly inflicting his own malicious blows? Maybe it is all of the above.
I think this encyclical can be a major coup for the Church if handled correctly. However, I hope and pray that Pope Francis does 3 things:
1. Takes a cautious approach to the idea that the science of climate change is “settled” because although there is a consensus, such scientific “truths” have proven false repeatedly over the course of history. And the models have proven to be hopelessly inaccurate. I really hope he adopts a moderate line that says something like “nothing is certain but if the climate change models prove correct then the consequences could be devastating” instead of simply adopting the global warming narrative as having been “proven” true.
2. I hope he warns very clearly against the new “secular religion” that worships man and the planet instead of the Holy Trinity. He must clearly state that this is a fales ideology that is the spawn of the Devil because it displaces the Holy Trinity from its place at the center of the Universe and as the origin of all Truth.
3. I hope he warns very clearly that pursuit of “sustainability” cannot come at the expense of the life issues: contraception, abortion, euthanasia, etc. He needs to specifically point out how the most prominent voices in the secular world concerning climate change and sustainability put “population control” forward as perhaps the central “solution” to the problem. Western governments such as that of the United States have made exportation of this culture of death a central plank of their foreign aid and development programs. It is especially important that he be very clear about this “ideological colonization” (which he has already spoken about) given that the he has associated himself with some of the biggest proponents of this approach in connection with the drafting of the encyclical (e.g., Jeff Sachs, Ban Ki Moon).
The problem here is that many people see this issue through the prism of their political beliefs and not in the light of their faith. Anyone my age has swum in water as a child that you can no longer swim in. The water and air of the planet have been polluted. Isn’t that enough “proof”? Meanwhile, the Koch brothers are buying elections to prevent any restraints being placed on their right to pollute and further foul the world we live in.
I’m waiting for an encyclical on corruption. Not just the political and economic kind, but the intellectual and spiritual kind. They are all poison to the faith.
Cardinal Maradiaga’s Honduras has the highest murder rate in the world, and on the corruption scale is right up there (or down there) with Iraq, Afghanistan, and North Korea. On this subject - unlike global temperatures - one would think that his input would be universally welcome.
As for the intellectual and spiritual corruptions, they are inside the Church not just outside (you know, “over there” - in Congress, or Big Business, or Oxygen-starved major Chinese cities and all that).
Proposed title: Corruptio ad Absurdam.
Oremus.
I consider myself a very conservative person. I long ago asked a philosophy teacher why conservation of God’s creation was not a conservative issue. I realize a balance between the needs of human beings and nature is necessary. However, many times the way we (humans) use God’s creation is gluttony. Maybe I shouldn’t mention my favorite people, but the Nature Conservancy, in my opinion, work very hard to balance the needs of God’s people and God’s creation. Peace Of Jesus
The atmospheric physics and chemistry are incontrovertible, but there are of course intervening variables, some of which we may not be aware of.
The problem with holding off on a response is that a physical system as large as a planet’s climate must have an enormous inertia. Once committed, how would it be braked?
But in any case, it may be that any response may be too late now. The inertia may have taken the problem out of our hands, and we are committed to climate change whether we like it or not.
It is a sad fact that this is, once again, where so many Catholics show their true alliance to be to statements of radio talk show hosts and news networks, rather than their Catholic faith. Think about it, which would you rather follow and hold, the politically oriented rants of someone telling you that nothing is wrong with the climate or environment, or the calm teaching of the Pope, based on the word of God, that urge us to be good stewards of the earth and all that God has given us.
Face it, even if you don’t believe in climate change, doesn’t it make more sense to be good stewards and not squander and abuse what God has given us?
The enemies of the Church continue to smile at this pope.
He is useful to them.
There is no respect for him. They will turn on him in due time.
Bet on it.
Two points come to mind: 1. Would Pope Francis be asked to speak before the U.N., if he discussed the killing of Christians by Muslims? 2. Mr. Royal, how did a man without a liberal agenda, get invited on NPR?
The enemies of the Church will “use” the Pope, and the Pope’s statements for their own political ambitions - if he is not extremely clear and extremely defining.
He also must be in full accord with Sacred Scripture and the Doctrine of the Faith (CCC).
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“Personal political opinions” will not be accepted by most.
If anything in his encyclical statement is not 100% founded in the Catholic Faith and in accurate Science, he will make the Church look foolish.
We must wait and see what he writes.
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Because of some of Pope Francis’s other strange public statements over the past few years, it is understandable that faithful Catholics would be concerned.
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