Please don’t post untruths about Jehovah’s witnesses, things of which you may have heard but have no first hand knowledge of. Jehovah’s Witnesses follow the instructions in the Bible and follow Jesus example. This produces a group of honest, loyal, trustworthy, and God fearing people. You would be privileged to have such a friend.

The Watchtower Tract Society maintains that everlasting punishment, (HELL) is a myth and a lie invented by Satan.( hell is found in the new testament dozens of times)  2 Jehovah’s Witnesses deny the immortality of the soul. 3 The “New World Translation” is used solely by the JW sect and was created by five men and only one had just two years of non-bibilical Greek and “taught himself” Hebrew. 4 THe JWs claimed that the Lord is present (His return) on the Earth [in 1914] 5 WHen He did not appear, they claimed “He is invisible…” 5 Due to conscience, the men of the JWs do not enter the Military. 6 Sadly, JWs do not salute the flag 7 In the year 1904 JWs were allowed to celebrate Christmas. Now, “Christmas and its music are… from Satan the devil.” [WT, 12-15-1983,7] Incongruency, flips and flops, falsehoods punctuate the history of the JWs.  IF you, as a JW, believe these seven points as true, what have they done to you? Honestly, no Hell? No immortal soul? A translation of the bible out of thin air?  Honesty—Dianna?  When you visit people’s homes you generally do not lead with these teachings of your church, do you? SOURCE: CATHOLIC ANSWERS.  http://www.catholic.com

I studied with the Jehovah Witnesses for a year before I returned to the Catholic Church.  I did not feel worthy to return to the Church.  I thought the door was closed.  But the Holy Spirit used the J.W.‘s to introduce me to scripture (even though it was modified scripture) and I began to experience the call of God to return “HOME”.

It took another year before I actually returned to the Church.  I think God will use anything to lead us back to the Church if we let him.  I think we make a mistake by limiting God by discarding “this & that” means to evangelize.  And I am reminded that when the people had faith in Christ and their prayer, Jesus said—“Your faith has saved you”. Let us believe in what we are doing in the name of Jesus. Amen?

I studied with the Jehovah Witnesses for a year before I returned to the Catholic Church.  I did not feel worthy to return to the Church.  I thought the door was closed.  But the Holy Spirit used the J.W.‘s to introduce me to scripture (even though it was modified scripture) and I began to experience the call of God to return “HOME”.
It took another year before I actually returned to the Church.  I think God will use anything to lead us back to the Church if we let him.  I think we make a mistake by limiting God by discarding “this & that” means to evangelize.  And I am reminded that when the people had faith in Christ and their prayer, Jesus said—“Your faith has saved you”. Let us believe in what we are doing in the name of Jesus. Amen?

Mat 13:24 Another illustration he set before them, saying: “The kingdom of the heavens has become like a man that sowed fine seed in his field. 25 While men were sleeping, his enemy came and oversowed weeds in among the wheat, and left. 26 When the blade sprouted and produced fruit, then the weeds appeared also. 27 So the slaves of the householder came up and said to him, ‘Master, did you not sow fine seed in your field? How, then, does it come to have weeds?’ 28 He said to them, ‘An enemy, a man, did this.’ They said to him, ‘Do you want us, then, to go out and collect them?’ 29 He said, ‘No; that by no chance, while collecting the weeds, YOU uproot the wheat with them. 30 Let both grow together until the harvest; and in the harvest season I will tell the reapers, First collect the weeds and bind them in bundles to burn them up, then go to gathering the wheat into my storehouse.’”

? In Jesus’ parable of the wheat among the weeds, do the “weeds” include those who recently have become apostates?
No, for strictly speaking they are not “weeds.”
This illustration and Jesus’ explanation of it are found at Matthew 13:24-30, 37-43. In the “field,” which is the world, the “Son of man” sowed “fine seed,” representing “the sons of the kingdom,” genuine anointed Christians. Then the Devil sowed “weeds” that might appear to be “wheat,” but are actually “the sons of the wicked one,” evidently imitation Christians that exist at the same time as the wheatlike true Christians. This developed particularly after the apostles died. (2 Thessalonians 2:6, 7) Through the centuries there have been many who merely claimed to be Christians, including the clergy who have spread false teachings.
Jesus said that during the harvest period, the “conclusion of a system of things,” the “weeds” would be collected out and “burned with fire.” Some might view the small number of persons who recently turned apostate as “weeds” being collected out. But Jesus did not say that the “weeds” had once been “wheat” and then turned bad. They were sown as “weeds” and remained such, consistent with the genetic rule that vegetation reproduces “according to its kind.” (Genesis 1:11, 12) We need to bear in mind, though, that in speaking of the “weeds” Jesus was foretelling a particular sort of false, or imitation, Christians who would appear. He was not discussing individuals of the “wheat” class who might go bad, becoming like rotten wheat stalks.
Apostates of the apostles’ day and their modern counterparts are not represented by the “weeds.” Yet the Bible shows that such apostates are “not of our sort,” have God’s disapproval and should be shunned by loyal Christians. Any who apostatize and do not repent by the end of this system of things will experience the same fate as the “weeds,” being “burned with fire” or destroyed completely.—Titus 3:10; 1 John 2:18, 19; 2 John 9-11.

Faithful Job, in effect, stated that if his life course had not been one of integrity, then, instead of barley, let stinking weeds grow.—Job 31:40.

At Proverbs 24:31, the plural form of the Hebrew term qim·mohs?, which is commonly rendered “nettle,” appears to denote weeds of all kinds.—See NETTLE.
The weeds (Gr., zi·za?ni·a) of Jesus’ illustration at Matthew 13:24-30, 36-43 are generally considered to be bearded darnel (Lolium temulentum), which very much resembles wheat until maturity, when it can be readily distinguished from wheat by its smaller black seeds. This, together with the fact that the roots of these weeds become entwined with the wheat, would make it most inadvisable to pull up the weeds at an early stage. If darnel seeds become mixed with wheat kernels after the harvest, this can have a serious effect upon the eater. Dizziness and even fatal poisoning have been attributed to eating bread containing too much darnel flour. The poisonous properties of darnel seeds are generally believed to stem from a fungus growing within them.

When Jesus set down on his throne at the beginning of the end of time he began to separate the wheat out of the weeds. These ones began to tell the the Good News the same as Jesus did on earth. Jesus told his diciples that this Good News would be preached in the entire world and then the end would come. None otgher than the people who carry his name are doing this work. All have come out of other religions, being taken out by Holy Spirit to do the will of God. God’s Holy Spirit was poured out upon them to accomplish his work. Without it it is impossible to do the door to door work that Jesus did and ask his people to do.

So it appears that only when a person becomes a servant of Jehovah is his name written in “the book of life,” and only if he continues faithful is his name retained in that book.—Re 3:5; 17:8; compare Ex 32:32, 33; Lu 10:20; Php 4:3

. Similarly, the names of persons worshiping the symbolic wild beast have not been recorded in the Lamb’s scroll. (Re 13:8) That wild beast received its authority, power, and throne from the dragon, Satan the Devil. Those who worship the wild beast are therefore a part of the ‘serpent’s seed.’ (Re 13:2; compare Joh 8:44; Re 12:9.) Even before children were born to Adam and Eve, Jehovah God indicated that there would be enmity between the ‘seed of the woman’ and the ‘seed of the serpent.’ (Ge 3:15) Thus from the founding of the world it had already been determined that no worshiper of the wild beast would have his name written in the Lamb’s scroll. Only persons sacred from God’s standpoint were to be so privileged.—Re 21:27.
In view of the fact that this scroll belongs to the Lamb, logically the names appearing on it would be those of persons given to him by God. (Re 13:8; Joh 17:9, 24) It is therefore noteworthy that the next reference to the Lamb in the book of Revelation depicts him as standing on Mount Zion with 144,000 persons bought from among mankind.—Re 14:1-5.

JPRosen wrote: “The Watchtower Tract Society maintains ...”
#1: “(HELL) is a myth and a lie invented by Satan”
True. The word is a mistranslation of several Hebrew and Greek words, sheol, gehenna, hades. It’s an English word from North European languages of only about 1000 years ago; it could not have been used by any of the writers of the original texts. The NWT translates the original words individually, consistently, and honestly. The very idea of a Catholic or Baptist Hell dishonors Jehovah, who “is love”. “Your word is truth.”

#2: “Jehovah’s Witnesses deny the immortality of the soul”
True. Gen 2:7 “And the Lord God formed man of the slime of the earth: and breathed into his face the breath of life, and man BECAME a living soul.”
Joshua 10:32,35 “And the Lord delivered Lachis into the hands of Israel, and he took it the following day, and put it to the sword, and every soul that was in it, as he had done to Lebna ...  and took it the same day: and put to the sword all the souls that were in it, according to all that he had done to Lachis.”
Ezek 18:20 “The soul that sins, the same shall die:”
So man IS a soul, he does not HAVE a soul. The phrase “immortal soul” does not occur in the Bible. The IDEA of such does occur, here: “And the serpent said to the woman: No, you shall not die the death. For God knows that in what day soever you shall eat thereof, your eyes shall be opened: and you shall be as Gods, knowing good and evil.”
Eve believed the lie, as do most nominally Christian churches. “Your word is truth.”

#3: “The “New World Translation” etc. etc. etc.
It’s the best translation I’ve seen, in over 60 years of reading. When people read Gen 2:7, as above, and then use the phrase “immortal soul” as a religious teaching they prove themselves unqualified as Bible teachers. “Your word is truth.”

#4: “THe JWs claimed that the Lord is present (His return) on the Earth [in 1914]”
True; we still so claim ...
“they claimed “[his return was] invisible…”
... true. Our Lord said it would be so. Acts 1: “And when he had said these things, while they looked on, he was raised up: and a cloud received him OUT OF THEIR SIGHT. And while they were beholding him going up to heaven, behold two men stood by them in white garments. Who also said: You men of Galilee, why stand you looking up to heaven? This Jesus who is taken up from you into heaven, SHALL SO COME AS YOU HAVE SEEN HIM GOING INTO HEAVEN.”
There is a spiritual vision as well as physical vision. We saw his invisible appearance by reading the ‘signs of the times’ in Mt 24 and 25, 2 Tim 3, etc. “Your word is truth.”

“Due to conscience, the men [and women] of the JWs do not enter the Military.”
True. Therefore we don’t kill Catholics in wartime; Catholics and other “Christians” kill each other [and us]. They also supply chaplains to the military to ‘keep up morale’ during the internecine killing. “Your word is truth.”

“JWs do not salute the flag”
True. We don’t salute ANY country’s flag, nor pledge allegiance to ANY country’s constitution, nor enter ANY country’s military. BTW that’s thew law in the US because of several cases we fought. So your kids don’t have to do these things either- if their “conscience” so moves them. On principle we behave as good citizens, by the standard set forth by the Catholics’ “first Pope”: “But Peter and John answering, said to them: If it be just, in the sight of God, to hear you rather than God, judge. For we cannot but speak the things which we have seen and heard ... But Peter and the apostles answering, said: We ought to obey God rather than men.”
“Your word is truth.”

“In the year 1904 JWs were allowed to celebrate Christmas”
[You forgot birthdays.] Probably true as to “1904”. I don’t recall the exact period involved; it was for longer than just one year. When we come to a better understanding of God’s word, we change our mode of life. Do you? “Your word is truth.” Any encyclopedia will give you what amounts to the JW teaching on Christmas and its associated practices: wrong time, wrong practices, etc. “Your word is truth.”

R. Chandler thank you for the treatise on baking bread.  You are on the wrong side of the story, though.  It is the Catholics who attend the Lamb’s Supper, Communion with the Eucharist or the Gift of Finest Wheat reciving the BODY, BLOOD, SOUL & DIVINITY of JESUS CHRIST.
Apparently, you did not “follow Jesus” when He fed the 5,000 or spoke in John 6, The Bread of Life discourse OR when He raised the bread and wine at the Last Supper and stated, “This is My Body,”  “This is My Blood.”
Your booklet, “What does the Bible Really Say?” is riddled with falsehoods and untruths. It is hard to reconcile your doctrines with your post:  1 you do not personally have the “Heavenly Hope” as the 144K have been long picked in advance of you being born. 2 you do not believe Jesus is God 3 you say you follow Him and do not believe in His bodily resurrection 4 How can you take up the cross of Christ if Satan has convinced you to think he was tied to a torture stake?  Do you not see that the truth and the doctrines of your religion have very little in common?  IF it was, according to your own teaching in the WT in 1983, that Christmas is not to be celebrated…that Christmas is of Satan… was’nt it the same Satan that put the stinky weeds in with the wheat? Wouldn’t Satan want to make you think that Jesus is not God?  I know you are being deceived.  One of us is in the Church that was founded by Christ.  One of us is in a knock off and that knock off is attempting to take the kingdom out of the true Church.

I think that all of you who are intent on telling untruths about Jehovah’s Witnesses should look at some facts first. Jesus plainly said that “And this good news of the Kingdom would be preached in all the inhabited earth, for a witness to all the nations, and then the end will come.” The fact is, is that Jehovah’s Witnesses are fulfilling that prophecy, in “all the nations”. Over 250,000 people are being baptized each year as Jehovah’s Witnesses because of this tremendous task that could never be done in harmony, without Jehovah God’s direction and approval. Jesus said that you would recognize his true followers by their fruits, which include their works. You certainly cant recognize another religion doing all of this. And don’t forget that the main point of their witnessing is to preach the good news of God’s Kingdom. The first thing that Jesus said to the world after he was tempted, was to “repent you people, for the Kingdom is coming.”. He said that that is why he was sent here. So what he was saying and that Jehovah’s Witnesses are saying, is that God’s rulership is coming back to this earth, ..something that was lost in the garden of Eden because of His authority being questioned. And after letting mankind see through every form of government that they simply cannot take care of themselves and solve the problems that mankind face, century after century. That is what we as mankind should be doing, is getting ourselves ready for that Kingdom, by living as close to God’s commandments as we possibly can. I say all of this out of concern for my fellow man. God’s Kingdom will be here very soon now, and we need to be ready for it, by cleaning up everything we can about ourselves, and sincerely looking to our heavenly Father for approval. Jesus said that “many” would say to him in the last days, ‘Lord, Lord, didn’t we do great works in your name Lord , expelling demons and many great miracles Lord?”,..and he said that they were never a part of him, but that only those doing the will of his Father would be in the Kingdom. His Father is Jehovah God Almighty. And those “many” are self-proclaimed Christians in the world today. The prophecy at Joel 2:32 says: “It must occur that everyone who calls on the name of Jehovah will get away safe.” And It is after foretelling the paradisaic condition of God’s people that Joel prophesies about the pouring out of Jehovah’s spirit. When Peter quoted this prophecy at Pentecost, he said that it was fulfilled “in the last days.” (Acts 2:17) Peter said the very same thing as Joel did under the power of the Holy spirit, that all those calling on the name Jehovah will be saved. Jehovah’s Witnesses are truly grateful to know Jehovah’s name, and they have complete trust that he will save them when they call on him. Our salvation depends on calling on the name of Jehovah in faith. Repentance is required beforehand if a person is to be saved during the fear-inspiring day of Jehovah. The nearness of that day should move us to engage in holy acts and godly deeds. Of course, our salvation depends on acknowledging that Jehovah alone is God. And if we call on his name in faith, he will save us when he executes judgment upon the nations. I sincerely hope that you people here will do just that. :-)

I think that all of you who are intent on telling untruths about Jehovah’s Witnesses should look at some facts first. Jesus plainly said that “And this good news of the Kingdom would be preached in all the inhabited earth, for a witness to all the nations, and then the end will come.” The fact is, is that Jehovah’s Witnesses are fulfilling that prophecy, in “all the nations”, not just in some community where a Kingdom Hall exist. Over 250,000 people are being baptized each year as Jehovah’s Witnesses because of this tremendous task that could never be done in harmony, without Jehovah God’s direction and approval. Jesus said that you would recognize his true followers by their fruits, which include their works. You certainly cant recognize any other religion doing all of this. And don’t forget that the main point of their witnessing is to preach the good news of God’s Kingdom. The first thing that Jesus said to the world after he was tempted, was to “repent you people, for the Kingdom is coming.”. He said that that is why he was sent here, was to declare that message. So what he was saying and that Jehovah’s Witnesses are saying, is that God’s rulership is coming back to this earth, ..something that was lost in the garden of Eden because of His authority being questioned. And after letting mankind see through every form of government that they simply cannot take care of themselves and solve the problems that mankind face, century after century, then He will bring in His Rulership. What we as mankind should be doing, is getting ourselves ready for that Kingdom, by living as close to God’s commandments as we possibly can. I say all of this out of concern for my fellow man. God’s Kingdom will be here very soon now, and we need to be ready for it, by cleaning up everything we can about ourselves, and sincerely looking to our heavenly Father for approval. Jesus said that “many” would say to him in the last days, ‘Lord, Lord, didn’t we do great works in your name Lord , expelling demons and many great miracles Lord?”,..and he said that they were never a part of him, but that only those doing the will of his Father would be in the Kingdom. His Father is Jehovah God Almighty. And those “many” are self-proclaimed Christians in the world today. The prophecy at Joel 2:32 says, that in the last day, “It must occur that everyone who calls on the name of Jehovah will get away safe.” And it is after foretelling the paradisaic condition of God’s people that Joel prophesies about the pouring out of Jehovah’s spirit. When Peter quoted this prophecy at Pentecost, he said that it was fulfilled “in the last days.” (Acts 2:17) Peter said the very same thing as Joel did under the power of the Holy spirit, that all those calling on the name Jehovah will be saved. Jehovah’s Witnesses are truly grateful to know Jehovah’s name, and they have complete trust that he will save them when they call on him. Our salvation depends on calling on the name of Jehovah in faith. Repentance is required beforehand if a person is to be saved during the fear-inspiring day of Jehovah. The nearness of that day should move us to engage in holy acts and godly deeds. Of course, our salvation depends on acknowledging the fact that Jehovah alone is God, and that His Son is our appointed King,..appointed by his Father God Almighty. And if we call on Jehovah God’s name in faith, he will save us when he executes judgment upon the nations. I sincerely hope that you people here will do just that. :-)

>>> Over 250,000 people are being baptized each year as Jehovah’s Witnesses because of this ... <<< So what? If 250,000 told you to jump off a bridge, would you? There is a Catholic Diocese responsible for every square inch of land on the planet.  Our Church receives and baptises its fair share of converts.  Look at the culture we live in here in the US.  There are people who are messed up, lonely and have lost their way.  Along comes the JWs trained to harvest by an organization started by a mere man 130 years ago only with a faulty translation of scripture. You provide community, “answers” and “support.” The paradigm you are in is that you think you are the heroes of God.  I know you JWs are thinking that Jesus is not God either, that He was a mere man.  But can you really drag down Jesus Christ, to the same level as your founder? Or to the level of a King David? The Church that Jesus founded is the Catholic Church. By birth, I have become a part of it.  The Church is a billion strong and it would be here today without me.  I am blessed and fortunate to be in this Church.  We try to help others see what our Church is and what the Triune God, The Father, Son and Holy Spirit can do in their lives.  Lastly, the Holy Spirit is not an impersonal force as the JWs believe and put forth incorrectly.  Can you see what they do?  There is the truth, ie the Trinity, and they chip away by claiming Jesus is not really God and that the Holy Spirit is not a Person of the Trinity.  The watchword is ERROR!  THe Jehovah Witnesses spread error.  Regardless of the fact that the word Trinity is not in the bible, it is a reality. http://www.catholic.com

Why trying to invent a wheel that already is invented and works fine? Jehovah’s Witnesses are known worldwide because of their door to door approach and their biblical message of the Good News.

Catholics with their 1.2 billion members cannot compete in 1.2 billion years with that 8 million Jehovah’s Witness preachers. Just accept that cause its a fact.

Dan Hazard is just an apostate who spends every waking hour trying to discredit Jehovah’s Witnesses.

Its only Jehovah’s Witnesses who have the worldwide love that Jesus said would identify his followers at John 13:38.
They are the only group….the ONLY religious group who will NOT go off to war and fight and kill their fellowman.
End of story!
That says it all.
They are the ONLY ones who have the identifying mark.

So Danny Hazard can just shut his big pie hole up.
He can twist stuff and misrepresent Jehovah’s Witnesses all he want to, but he can never deny that they are the ONLY TRUE Christians!

Intersting….the commentators are all saying the same things JW’s have said and done for 100 years about spreading the Good News. The Catholic Church after 2000 years has returned to the basic way of spreading the Word that Jesus taught and commanded his diciples to do.

And yet the Church has a long record of condemning these same JW’s for “selling religion”. Makes one wonder what else the JW’s have right!

One also wonders what can be learned if you just spent the time talking and researching for yourself instead of googling the internet and geting 90% inuendo and slander!

Raymond, you are incorrect.  After Russell, the founder, died in 1916,his successor, “Judge” Joseph Rutherford equipped Witnesses with portable phonographs with pamphlets and they gave info to homeowners that way. In his radio shows, Rutherford, (who was an attorney , who claimed to be a judge because he substituted at least once for an absent judge) and pamphlet messages Witnesses were very anti-Catholic.  Witnesses also use faulty sources:  They quote Hans Kung as a “Catholic theologian” even though the Vatican had removed his license to teach theology in 1980.  Yet, because his heretical views suit them, the Jehovah’s Witnesses continue to quote him unethically. They also quote anti-Catholic Edward Gibbon as though he were an objective historian.  He is their go to guy to do a hatchet job on the Trinity. SOURCES: BEGINNING APOLOGETICS 2.5 by Father Frank Chacon and Jim Burnham, CATHOLIC ANSWERS: History of the Jehovahs Witnesses

Several of my friends have reported this same phenomena:  On the same day each of us had a visit by car by two Jehovahs Witnesses.  They were there at our doors to invite us to their weekend conference.  While I do not think that there is anything wrong with using an automobile, the conclusion I draw from the experience is that they previously knew our addresses.  Otherwise, they would have just walked.  Each of my friends in this example are Catholics.  Why did they want to have us Catholics go to this special event for hours on end, over two days in an environment they provide, and an agenda of their choosing?  CONTROL & Indoctrination. New topic… Do you want to learn the code for home visits?  Do NOT invite two JWs into your home for a sitdown discussion or you have guaranteed a repeat visit in the next few weeks.  If you are OK with this, do as you wish.  They will break off contact if they sense you are strong in the Catholic faith or if they cannot persuade you to attend a [Watchtower Tract: AWAKE!] so-called “bible study.”  If you want to discuss the Faith with them and do not want any recurring contact, simply bring your Cathoilc tracts, Bible and self out onto the front steps and keep the door shut behind you. Perhaps you can be the patient Saint that is the gamechanger for them and frees them from their paradigm of bondage to him whom they serve.

Am I authentic? Am I genuine? Am I being honest with myself? Why am I a Jehovah’s Witness?  If I rationally consider what the options are and ask the right questions interiorly will I come to know the truth?  Do I dare ask them aloud?  Of whom do I ask? You don’t know that which you don’t know. One man’s experience found here:  http://whyimcatholic.com/index.php/conversion-stories/jehovah-witness-converts/item/125-jehovahs-witness-convert-lou-everett

I am sorry if I offended anyone. It is religion, my beliefs and yours. All of us JWs will help you if you need us. Thanks for all the comments! MrsC

Jesus is right. A good tree cannot produce rotten fruit, and a rotten tree cannot produce good fruit. There is only one truth. JEHOVAH took 1600 years and used 40 different faithful prophets to record HIS one and only truth. It is seamless and perfect. We, as humans, have this truth, The Holy Bible, to shape our thinking, motivate our heart, and guide our step. The BIBLE teaches us about JEHOVAH, HIS Son Jesus, and GODS Holy Spirit. Jesus testified that his Fathers word is the truth. Jesus said the truth would set us free.
If you sincerely want to be free of teachings that conflict with GODS Word, open your BIBLE and begin to study. Pray to JEHOVAH for his spirit of understanding and work in harmony with your prayers. Pray in Jesus’ name. Reject anything that cannot be shown to be from, and in harmony with, the BIBLE. JEHOVAH will send teachers, they will be HIS Witnesses. You can tell right away; they teach from HIS word. Your questions will be answered directly from the BIBLE. That’s good fruit.

W.R.B your comment that “Jesus is right” is very interesting. Who could possibly argue with that?  Its very telling how you folks use words. Unfortunately, he is wrong. WHAT you say? In case you didn’t notice, I didn’t capitalize the personal pronoun “he” in the last sentence.  WHY?  Because whom you think of as Jesus is wrong.  Therefore your “truth” is also error filled. You do not believe as a JW that Jesus Christ is God. I’ve made many claims and statements in these posts without resorting to scripture and now for your benefit, I must.  In your version of scripture, The New World Translation, which no other sect or Protestant church chooses to utilize, In JN 1 your words of scripture fail to acknowledge Jesus is God. In a real bible, like KJV, NIV or RSV in JN 1, which parallels Genesis beautifully because it has God the Father “in the beginning…” and then in the New Testament, “the Word was God.”  Dozens of scripture versions and hundreds of Bible scholars confirm this translation. But YOU are right?  Jehovah has revealed this to your sect?  Horse hockey!  You are also under the impression that the bible alone is the way to go.  It appears you believe that the Catholic tradition is somehow “teachings that conflict with God’s Word.” Well let me tell you, in the translation from the Latin vulgate, an old and accurate rendition of scripture, the Douay Rheims, 2 Thess 2:14 (15 in newer bibles)this is what Paul says: “Therefore, brethren, stand fast; and hold the traditions which you have learned, whether by word, or by our epistle.” Paul speaks of oral tradition here in the bible. Both oral and written are to be retained. Furthermore, in DR 2 Peter 1:20 it says in the bible, “Understanding this first, that no prophecy of scripture is made by private interpretation.”  The Catholic Church in conjunction with the PERSON of the Holy Spirit is how the canon of scripture came about in A.D. 393 & 397 at the council of Hippo. Whom is your authority??? Someone in a building in Brooklyn, NY. You, W.R.B. and no other JW would have a “version” of a bible were it not for the Catholic Church. So how do you repay God the Father for His infallible Word?  You take the 1.2 billion people that he has spent accumulating and teaching for two millenia and you take your 8 million JW ravening wolves to go door to door to cull God’s herd. Just because someone does not read the bible as much as they should or is susceptible to a persuasive line of argument or needs companionship, do they really deserve you JWs and a potential loss of salvation for being away from the true Church?  Let’s go back to fruit, shall we?  The JWs are under the impression that the Lord has returned in secret in 1914 and that he is on the earth invisibly and he will soon tire of the people of the world’s wickedness and will turn the earth into a Paradise for the few whom have been good. 7 billion people on earth, 8 million good.  So, due to the false belief that the world will be Utopia in short order, why would JWs lift a finger or spend a dime to help anyone NOW? Let’s call that bad fruit.  Now, in contrast, looking at the Catholic Church, she provides more social services more inexpensively than ANY other organization in the US or World.  She also has a network of over 600 hospitals in the US alone?  If the Catholic schools closed tomorrow, the U.S. government would have to pay tens of BILLIONS of dollars to educate and (indoctrinate) the young minds of America. So you see W.R.B. since your world view is that your version of scripture, (which in an above post I explained it away as made up, tinkered with and inconsequential,) is “seamless and perfect” and you produce the “good fruit”—I must say—you are mistaken.  May I recommend a book to those reading this post, it is penned by Matthew Kelly and its entitled Rediscover Catholicism.  He also has the Dynamic Catholic show on http://www.relevantradio.com

For the Catholics that believe that Jesus was God himself, please read this. The head of the Christ is God.—1 Cor. 11:3. Jesus humbled himself and became obedient [to God] as far as death.” (Phil. 2:5-8) At all times, Jesus humbly submitted to his Father’s will. He said: “I seek, not my own will, but the will of him that sent me.” (John 5:30) “I always do the things pleasing to [my Father],” he declared. (John 8:29) Toward the end of his life on earth, Jesus said in prayer to his Father: “I have glorified you on the earth, having finished the work you have given me to do.” (John 17:4) Evidently, Jesus had no problem with recognizing and accepting God’s headship over him. So why do self-proclaiming Trinitarians say that Jesus is God? And why do they say that Peter built the church in Rome, when the Bible plainly says that Peter never went to Rome? Priests refer any inquirer to Jesus’ words at Matthew 16:18, 19 in the Catholic Douay Bible: “I say to thee: That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church. And the gates of hell shall not prevail against it. And I will give to thee the keys of the kingdom of heaven.” Does this mean, as the Roman Catholic Church claims, that Jesus appointed Peter the head of his church and the first pope? Jesus never said : “You, Peter, will build my church.” Rather, Jesus said: “I will build my church.” Did Peter really think he was the rock-mass foundation? On the contrary! He understood that foundation to be Christ himself: “Then Peter, filled with holy spirit, said to them: ‘ . . . in the name of Jesus Christ the Nazarene, whom you impaled but whom God raised up from the dead, by this one does this man stand here sound in front of you. This is “the stone which was treated by you builders as of no account that has become chief cornerstone”.’”—1 Thess. 5:21; Acts 4:8-12. If Peter was the rock on which the church was built, he certainly would have known it; and if he knew it he would have made that powerfully clear in his own epistles. But even in his own writings Peter never calls himself pope or speaks of himself as the head of the church. Rather, he identifies Christ as the rock-mass foundation: “Coming to him as to a living stone, rejected, it is true, by men, but chosen, precious, with God, you yourselves also as living stones are being built up a spiritual house for the purpose of a holy priesthood, to offer up spiritual sacrifices acceptable to God through Jesus Christ. . . . It is to you, therefore, that he is precious, because you are believers; but to those not believing, ‘the identical stone that the builders rejected has become the chief cornerstone,’ and ‘a stone of stumbling and a rock-mass of offense’.”—1 Pet. 2:4-8,. “The wall of the city also had twelve foundation stones, and on them the twelve names of the twelve apostles of the Lamb.” But no Bible writer names Peter as the head of the church. Declared the apostle Paul concerning Christ: “He is the head of the body, the congregation.” And again: “You have been built up upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets, while Christ Jesus himself is the foundation cornerstone.”—Rev. 21:14; Col. 1:18; Eph. 2:20,. So when Jesus spoke those words at Matthew 16:18, he meant that he himself, the one who had just been identified by Peter as the Messiah, was the rockmass foundation on which the Christian congregation would be built. When did the doctrine that Peter is the head of the church and that he supposedly has successors begin? It was established in the Roman Catholic Church in the Nicene Creed, A.D. 325 and 381. But the pure, uncorrupted Christians living in the days of the apostles never knew such a doctrine. Indeed, up till the fourth century professed Christians did not hold to such a teaching. When the Austrian Roman Catholic bishop Joseph Strossmayer made his speech before the college of cardinals in 1870, the time when the dogma of the infallibility of the pope was discussed, he made that point clear: “Of all the doctors of Christian antiquity St. Augustine occupies one of the first places for knowledge and holiness. Listen then to what he writes on his second treatise on the first epistle to St. John: ‘What do the words mean, I will build my church on this rock? On this faith, on that which said, Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God.’ In his treatise on St. John we find this most significant phrase—‘On this rock which thou hast confessed I will build my church, since Christ was the rock.’ The great bishop believed so little that the church was built on St. Peter that he said to the people in his thirteenth sermon, ‘Thou art Peter, and on this rock (petra) which thou hast confessed, on this rock which thou hast known, saying, Thou art Christ the Son of the living God, I will build my church—upon Myself, who am the son of the living God: I will build it on Me, and not Me on thee.’ That which St. Augustine thought upon this celebrated passage was the opinion of all Christendom in his time [about 400 A.D.].” If Peter had been the first pope, would he not have known it? Yet never once did he call himself “Supreme Pontiff” or pope. Nowhere in his writings did he claim supremacy, infallibility or the right to have a successor. On subjects so important as this it is unthinkable that Peter would remain silent. If Peter was the vicar of Jesus Christ, how is it that he never acted like a pope? Peter never established himself in a sumptuous residence. He never hired a small army of soldiers to guard him. He never dressed in clothes drastically different from his brothers. He never had himself carried about by his brothers on a papal chair similar to one used by Egyptian kings. Why did he never act like a pope? Because he obeyed Jesus’ command: “Do not call anyone your father on earth, for One is your Father, the heavenly One. Neither be called ‘leaders’, for your Leader is one, the Christ.”—Matt. 23:9, 10. Peter had ample opportunity to act as the leader of the Roman Catholic Church does, but he never did. When Peter used the second key and brought Jehovah’s way of salvation to Cornelius, the Bible account says: “As Peter entered, Cornelius met him, fell down at his feet and did obeisance to him. But Peter lifted him up, saying: ‘Rise; I myself am also a man.’” (Acts 10:25, 26,) Did Peter extend a ring to the prostrate Cornelius? No, Peter lifted Cornelius up, saying: “Rise; I myself am also a man.” Who ever heard of a pope lifting up a man prostrate before him, admitting his own comparative unimportance and equality with other men? If Peter was the first pope, how is it that Jesus did not choose one that could set the proper example for future popes? For popes are not allowed to experience the marital state; yet Peter was married. Both Mark and Luke spoke of “Simon’s mother-in-law.” And the apostle Paul wrote: “We have authority to lead about a sister as a wife, even as the rest of the apostles and the Lord’s brothers and Cephas [Peter], do we not?” But popes do not have this authority.—Mark 1:30; Luke 4:38; 1 Cor. 9:5,. If Peter was an infallible pope, how is it that he showed up so many times to be in error? Just a few moments after Christ spoke the words of Matthew 16:18, Peter appeared far from infallible; and Jesus had to rebuke him, saying: “Get behind me, Satan! You are a stumblingblock to me.” Would Christ address the infallible head of his church with terms such as “Satan” and “stumblingblock”? Time and again Peter showed he was not infallible. Once he lost faith while walking on water, and sank. Once he used his sword when he should not have. He even denied knowing Jesus. And after Christ’s death he still did not understand that Christ must be raised from the dead. Later Peter slipped into a wrong practice and had to be corrected by the apostle Paul.—Matt. 16:22, 23; 14:29-31; Luke 22:31-34; John 18:10, 11; Gal. 2:11. The pope is called “Successor to St. Peter, Prince of the Apostles.” But the Bible does not give the slightest trace that he was “prince of the apostles.” On the contrary, it gives abundant evidence that he was just one of the apostles and not the chief one. At Galatians 2:9 Paul writes of “James and Cephas [Peter] and John, the ones who seemed to be pillars.” Yet he puts James first. Would Paul have slighted the “prince of the apostles” by putting his name second in his list, if Peter was really chief of apostles? At a meeting in Jerusalem Peter made a speech but it was James who presided and made the decisions. If Peter was chief apostle it is unthinkable that he would have allowed James to preside over a most important meeting.—Acts 15:13-19. Finally, the last living apostle was John, not Peter. This would not be the logical arrangement if Peter was a pope. And here is something thought-arousing: The Catholic Encyclopedia lists four popes as succeeding Peter, St. Linus, St. Anacletus I, St. Clement I and St. Evaristus, the last of whom reigned about A.D. 99. Now the apostle John lived until about A.D. 100 or later. Yet John, in his writings, never once mentioned the name of any of these popes or even the fact that any pope existed. Why the silence on such extremely vital matters? Stranger yet is the fact that four popes supposedly succeeded Peter during the life span of the apostle John. Yet, if there was to be a successor, John, the beloved disciple of Jesus and apostle of the Lamb and one of the twelve foundation stones, would be the most logical choice. What conclusion must we come to, then? That Peter never had a successor. That Peter was merely one of the apostles, one of the twelve foundation stones and not the chief cornerstone or rock mass upon which the congregation is built. That Peter used the keys of the kingdom and that the keys cannot be used again or passed on to another. That Peter was not “prince of the apostles.” That Peter never acted like a pope. That the rock on which Christ builds his congregation is Christ himself. Thus in the error-destroying light of God’s Word lies exposed one of the most colossal hoaxes of all time. Peter was not the first pope. In the meantime, where was Peter doing his missionary work? Well, he was working as he had been assigned, in his apostleship to those who are circumcised. (Gal. 2:8) Therefore, he was concentrating his efforts on the Diaspora, the dispersion. While Paul went to the West, to Europe, James and Cephas and John, in harmony with the agreement mentioned at Galatians 2:9, served in the Eastern world. Peter introduces his first letter: “Peter, an apostle of Jesus Christ, to the temporary residents scattered about in Pontus, Galatia, Cappadocia, Asia, and Bithynia.” (1 Pet. 1:1) Not one of these places is in Europe, where we know Rome to be. Not only does Peter not mention Rome in his letter, but he distinctly indicates that it was written from Babylon, at 1 Peter 5:13: “The church that is in Babylon, elected together with you, saluteth you; and so doth my son, Mark.” (Douay Version) In 2 Peter 1:14, he says, “I must shortly put off this tabernacle,” implying his martyrdom was near, yet he makes no allusion to Rome, or any intention of his visiting it. Had Jesus meant for Peter to act as his vicar and exercise headship over the other apostles this fact certainly would be apparent in the book of Acts. But nowhere is Peter shown as ruling over the rest. Nor do the Scriptures and the facts of history prove that Peter went to Rome, served there as bishop and died there. Paul wrote several of his letters from Rome during the time that Peter was supposed to have been there. Yet in not one of these does he make any reference to Peter’s being in Rome. At 2 Timothy 4:11 Paul complains that only Luke continued with him. And in the letter Paul wrote to the Christian congregation at Rome he sends greetings to twenty-six, and, in all, makes mention of thirty-five Christians, but does not mention Peter. Could Paul have thus ignored Peter if Peter had been in Rome, and pope at that? Unthinkable! The noted sixteenth-century chronologist, Scaliger, regarding whom The Encyclopædia Britannica states ‘he was the greatest scholar of his day and he hated above all else dishonesty of argument and quotation,’ says that Peter’s being in Rome must be classed with the ridiculous legends. Truly the Scriptures, the facts of history and sound reasoning combine to prove that Peter was not the first “bishop” of Rome, that neither he nor any of the other apostles had successors, and that there has not been a continuous line of such from Peter’s day down to ours. Hence the answer to the question, “Do the apostles have successors?” must be an emphatic and unequivocal No!

It is of interest to note also, that the New King James Revised Version has put God’s Holy name Jehovah, back in all the places that they removed in the first version in 1611, except in 3 places in 1611, and admitted to doing so. One that they left it in the 1611 original version was Ps. 83:18. They admitted back then that they had removed the Holy name and replaced it with capitals “LORD” and 7000 times. Even in the ten commandments, where it says “You must Love the LORD thy God with all your heart soul, mind and strength”., it was supposed to say, “You must love Jehovah your God with all your heart…”,..and now, the New King James Revised Version is replacing it where God had it originally written down for us to know him personally. It reminds me of the prayer that Jesus said to his Father Jehovah, saying “‘Father, let your name be known’; therefore a voice from heaven said, ” I both made it known, and will again make it known”. Yes, Jehovah God’s will is being done on the earth as in heaven, just as His Kingdom will rule from heaven over the earth soon, as promised. He is giving everyone a chance to see the truth, by even prophesying through Daniel, that the truth would become known and abundant,..as if it never was in the centuries before now, by Catholics or whoever else, but He is letting it be known by His chosen ones, the Jehovah Witnesses, whom you call a cult. Daniel revealed that the truth would become known in the last days. That’s why Jehovah’s Witnesses have it through Jehovah’s blessing, and are living in accord to everything that Jesus preached and commanded his followers to do. Please accept them in to show you plainly from your own Bible, what “Truth” that Daniel was talking about.

Jesus Christ:  God and Eucharist.
1 That which was from the beginning, which we have heard, which we have seen with our own eyes, which we have looked upon, and our hands have handled, of the word of life: 2 For the life was manifested; and we have seen and do bear witness, and declare unto you the life eternal, which was with the Father, and hath appeared to us: 3 That which we have seen and have heard, we declare unto you, that you also may have fellowship with us, and our fellowship may be with the Father and with his Son Jesus Christ. 4 And these things we write to you, that you may rejoice, and your joy may be full. 1 John 1-4

If you deny the very gift of the Father,the Word, that Jesus is God.  Then you deny the gift of the Eucharist which is Jesus and is Love itself. Where are you going to end up if you ignore the words of eternal life and the gift of God?  Re-read John 6 until you get John 6.  Sit before Jesus in a church and do right by yourself by taking in this passage.  Jesus is in every Catholic church in the tabernacle and in some, in the monstrance and visible.  If you ignore my challenge, read John 6:66.  This is not just referring to those Jews of that time, it refers to you, today.  Why?  John 10:10

Note that God would like one form of offering.  It comes not from the Jews but the Gentiles. It is not grain like Cain offered, animal nor fowl.  It is worship with a pure offering:
10 Who is there among you, that will shut the doors, and will kindle the fire on my altar gratis?  I have no pleasure in you, saith the Lord of hosts : and I will not receive a gift of your hand.
11 For from the rising of the sun even to the going down, my name is great among the Gentiles, and in every place there is sacrifice, and there is offered to my name a clean oblation : for my name is great among the Gentiles, saith the Lord of hosts. Malachi 1:10-11
What is this pure offering? God and Man: Jesus Christ.  He suffered on the cross in the eternal sacrifice.  He continues to be offered in this same non-bloody sacrifice re-presented, according to scripture in the Catholic Mass. The only sacrifice good enough for God is God.  Do you have an idea of that which IS a clean offering that is not God?  No refined Gold, no artesian water—no nothing is as pure as JESUS CHRIST: Body, Blood, Soul and Divinity!

Oscar, Oscar…  You have won the distinction of having the longest post. Unfortunately, all your questions have been asked and they’ve been answered ad nauseum for decades.  Perhaps a snip from “Hunt for Red October” will help you:  Everyone’s pinging with their active sonar, but no one’s listening.—Fiction and life also bring to mind the manner in which you are so certain you are serving “Jehovah God” in the [old ABC] television show “Alias.”  You may see the parallel in the manner in which you and your Jehovah’s Witnesses remove people from Catholicism and Christian protestantism to enter into the JW faith.  Poor Sidney Bristow working her heart out for her country, thinking she is CIA and trapped in the paradigm that is the evil SD6.  Freedom from SD6 allows her to truly realize her dream and put her deadly skillset and quick mind to serve her country in the REAL U.S. intelligence organization, the CIA.  Even though you choose not to serve your country, salute any flag are you smart enough to know that you are being duped by someone?  Or are you just a Bad Robot?

I so agree with you Oscar. We know that we are just planting seeds and Jehovah makes it grow, and we will continue to plant seeds until the end of this system, just as Noah did. The day is coming soon when all those who do not listen to Jehovah’s voice will be begging to enter into that symbolic Ark. We so want eveyone on this earth to recieve everlasting life as Gods word promises. We are looking forward to all of our loved ones being resurrected to perfect health. We don’t make nor does Jehovah make anyone serve him. Jehovah is looking for humble and meek people to serve him. We don’t serve idols such as the flag or any other symbols. The three Hebrew men did not serve idols either. We give our alliegence to GOD and not to any man or idol.  When man salutes the flag he says i pledge alliegence to the flag something that truly breaks GOD’s heart! We can beat a dead horse and never get anywhere, but it is not our call to say who is a dead horse, that is left up to our heavenly father. I feel as you do Oscar that people would wake up and see whats happening in the earth today is part of the signs of the end of this wicked system. We are looking forward to living in the paradise earth that Adam and Eve lost. We serve the most awesome God!

Sacred Heart of Jesus pray for us and protect us, Immaculate Heart of Mary truiumph soon so we may have peace

John 6:56
56Anyone who eats me and drinks my blood is in me and I in him.
Acts 1&2 Peter teaches the people many things after Jesus is dead and rose again.Acts 2:14Peter stood up with the eleven apostles. He shouted, `You men of Judea and all who stay in Jerusalem, listen to me! I will tell you the truth.

15You think that these men are drunk. That is not so. It is only nine o’clock in the morning.

16The thing that has happened is what the prophet Joel told about.

17He said, “God says, `In the last days I will send my Spirit on all people. I will speak through your sons and daughters. Your young men will see visions and your old men will have dreams.

18In those days I will send my Spirit on the men and women who serve me and I will speak through them.

19In the sky above and on the earth below I will show wonderful signs with blood and fire and clouds of smoke.

20The sun will be dark and the moon will be like blood. These things will happen before the day of the Lord comes. It will be a great day that will be remembered always.

21And anyone who calls out to the Lord will be saved.’ ”

22`You men of Israel, listen to this. God showed you that he was pleased with this man, Jesus of Nazareth. He proved it by the big works and the wonderful signs which he did by Jesus right here among you people. And you yourselves know it.

23-24This same Jesus was given up. You let bad men take him. You let them nail him to a cross and kill him. This is just the way God had planned it. He knew how it would happen. But God raised him back to life. He set him free from the pain of death. Death could not hold him.

25`King David spoke about Jesus long ago. He said, “I saw the Lord before me always. He is at my right hand so that I may not be shaken.

26-27That made my heart very happy. It made my tongue sing for joy. And even my body also will rest in peace because you will not leave my body in the grave. You will not let your Holy One die and be spoiled.

28You have shown me the ways of life. You will make me very happy when I am with you.”

29`My brothers, I can talk very plainly to you about your father, David. He died and was buried. His grave is still here today.

30He was a prophet. He knew that God had promised him that someone born of his family would sit on his chair to rule. That one was Christ.

31David knew what would happen. So he said that Christ would be raised from death. Christ was not left in the grave. His body was not spoiled. David said all this before it ever happened.

32And now we all saw it. We are telling people that God raised this Jesus back to life.

33`God made him great by making him sit at his right side. God gave him the Holy Spirit as he had promised. So he sent this which you now see and hear.

34-35avid himself has not gone up into the heavens. What he said was, “The LORD God said to my Lord, `Sit at my right hand till I bring your enemies down and put your feet on them.’ ”

36`So let all the people of Israel know this: God has made Jesus to be Lord and Christ. This is the same Jesus whom you nailed to the cross.’

37What Peter said cut the people’s hearts when they heard it. They knew they had done wrong. They said to Peter and the rest of the apostles, `Brothers, what shall we do?’

38`Stop your wrong ways and turn back to God,’ answered Peter. `And then everyone of you can be baptised in the name of Jesus Christ. Your wrong ways will be forgiven you, and you will receive the Holy Spirit.
39This promise is for you and your children and for all those whom the Lord our God calls, even though they are far away.’
40Peter went on talking and teaching the people. `Do not follow the wrong ways of people today,’ he begged.

41Then those who gladly received his words and believed were baptised. That same day about three thousand new believers joined them.

42They kept on being taught by the apostles. And they kept on being with them. They ate bread together and talked with God.

In the Old Testament, there are many instances of people killing for their peoples.  God allowed the battle to go well for the Israelites as long as Moses’ arms were held up.  God allows for just war, just killing. God comes first, then country.  “I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United Steates of America, to the REPUBLIC, for which it stands.  One Nation, under God, indivisible with Liberty and Justice for All.”  I do put my hand over my heart when the National Anthem is sung at a contest of sport or a political event.  No, I don’t think that God says there goes another idol worshiper, I guess I can’t love anyone any more because my heart is broken. Oh wait, you don’t go to political events do you?  You let the rest of the nation do your fighting in war to keep us safe, determine leadership through the vote, etc. What is your sect’s official position on abortion?  If you are such good people and some of your folks have called you “Christian” then you should be against ABORTION.  IT is a form of killing that has taken 56 MILLION known American lives. 4,000 dead each day, just like 9/11. Never have I encountered a JW praying at an abortion mill.

Hello Mr JP Rosen :-), I really don’t like to waste my time talking to someone that is shown the truth from God’s word, only to have someone like you that will come back and quickly drag the conversation into something totally different from the issues that I was talking about. And I have to say that your overall attitude is anything but humble and meek. There are people in this list of replies that can plainly see that. But in referral to what you were saying about God allowing wars?..well that was very true, back then, because the old Devil would instigate something to the surrounding countries against Israel that was totally pathetic and wrong into the ears of those surrounding nations, to start a war. And so Jehovah God told his people not to fear, for he was with them all the way. Also, Jehovah God never once set up a flag to the country of Israel, for the Israelites to do an act of worship to. That would clearly be an act of idol worship, and would take away the glory that God deserved for saving his people. And since Jesus came to the earth, sent by his Father God Almighty, we were given new instructions on what our overall attitude is to be if someone wants to go to war with us or court with us, telling us to love our enemies and to pray for them and to turn the other cheek, and if someone wants the shirt off your back , to give your undergarments also, and to never ask for anything in return, that by doing so, your heavenly Father would reward you. I had the privileged of talking to a retired General of the U.S. Army while out going from house to house as Jesus taught all his followers to do, taking them the good news of God’s Rulership coming back, and the General took the magazines and told me that if all the people in the world were like Jehovah’s Witnesses, there would be no war. That came from an Army retired General that could plainly see that by following Jesus’ commandments and direction, that people would be at peace with no wars going on. So, it is not from God that these wars are started that you so proudly want to serve in and bow down to, ..it is from the wicked one, Satan the Devil. Jehovah’s meek servants will indeed inherit paradise on earth like He promised, and said, that during that time in paradise, that not even a wild beast would take away the peace of his people, and that would all enjoy the work of their hands. Why squabble now and come up with something that goes against those words from God’s Holy Scriptures? Why not seek peace with your fellow man, ..even your enemies, like Jesus, the one you say you follow, taught us to love? It is the warmongers, the Kings of the earth, that God says he will battle with himself at Armageddon, and get rid of wicked hearted people, so that his meek and peaceful servants will enjoy their lives to the full, for forever.  He plainly said that vengeance was his, did he not? I will not be replying anymore to this thread, for it is useless when you show someone the truth of God’s Word, and they ignore it, like it was nothing to it. So, I’ll say so long and may you all have a peaceful day. :-)

Whoa, Oscar.  My last post was also about ABORTION.  Did you reply to that?  No.  I’d call us even then. Jesus came to bring the sword. Sister and brother, father and mother all at odds over the Faith.  The one true Faith.  I am right and I have God on my side and you think I am arrogant, proud and strident—anything but meek and humble.  You don’t have the courage to say those things in print.  I know you are on the wrong side of the larger discussion and that since you are a Jehovah’s Witness you are simply incorrect.  I bid you goodbye, and I hope that you are so uncomfortable and God gives you no peace that you cannot sleep at night and you go to a perpetual adoration chapel and encounter the physical presence of Jesus Christ in the Blessed Sacrament there.  Then you grab a Douay Rheims bible off the shelf (since your New World Translation fell in a deep puddle and was destroyed on the way into the chapel)and combined with His Real Presence and a look at scripyures like JN 6, JN 20:21-23 that snap you out of the deception you are trapped within. May God help you before you ruin yet another person of faith and their salvation.

Oscar wrote:>>>
Just a few moments before Christ spoke the words of Matthew 16:18, Peter appeared far from infallible; and Jesus had to rebuke him, saying: “Get behind me, Satan! You are a stumblingblock to me.” Would Christ address the infallible head of his church with terms such as “Satan” and “stumblingblock”? Time and again Peter showed he was not infallible. Once he lost faith while walking on water, and sank. Once he used his sword when he should not have. He even denied knowing Jesus. And after Christ’s death he still did not understand that Christ must be raised from the dead.<<<

You are operating with an incorrect definition of “infallible” Oscar.  In matters of FAITH AND MORALS when a pope speaks from the chair, EX CATHEDRA, he is infallible.  That is it!  The Holy Father does not have to be a priest, even.  He is required to be human.  The Pope can be bad at math.  The Holy Father may not have all social graces.  You, Oscar have set up a “straw man” so you could knock him (Peter) down.  Dozens of times in scripture the words “Peter and the apostles”... occur. 

There are only two times in the New Testament ( in the Gospel of John)  that a charcoal fire appears.  The connection between them is very clear.  It speaks to the points you attempt to make.  In the high priests courtyard, by the charcoal fire, is the thrice denial of Peter—and the cock crows.  Jesus looks at Peter and Peter weeps bitterly.  Then, the Risen Christ on the beach, when Peter and the apostles are fishing, eats a fish that was prepared over a charcoal fire. He three times affirms Peter and sets him on his mission:  Do you love Me?  YES. “Feed my sheep.”  Do you love Me, Peter? YES, Lord, you know I love you.  “Feed my lambs.” Do you love Me Peter?  YES, Lord you know everything, you know I love you!  “TEND MY SHEEP.”

Let the blind see—and let them take this revelation and head over to John 6 and get the rest of the message: What Jesus wants Peter and the priests to feed “us lambs” on…  His BODY, BLOOD, SOUL & DIVINITY in the Eucharist.

Certainly, it is very interesting that in Mexico, Mormons and Jehovah’s Witnessees come to the door with an image of Our Lady of Quadalupe to use the blessed image of Our Lady to “get in good” with these unsuspecting Mexican people.  This is yet another example of disingenuous behavior on the part of those that do door to door for the wrong teams.  Viva Cristo Rey!

To be complete, Our Lady of Guadalupe’s image is employed by them.

For the Catholics wondering why Jehovah’s Witnesses are commenting on this site, they probably figure they can “give a witness” and/or count it as “time” on their Field Service Report that they have to turn in each month, showing how many hours they spent preaching.

If someone wants to go door to door preaching, they certainly have the right to. There is no doubt that Jesus and his followers all preached (elsewise, Christianity would have never spread the way it did).  However, they preached in the market place, in public squares or any other public place where the crowds could gather and listen if they wanted to. 

There is, however, no biblical evidence whatsoever that either Jesus or his disciples ever went knocking on strangers’ doors Saturday mornings. 

The Watchtower’s CD-ROM references Matthew 10:11 (a scripture they use to try and support their door-to-door preaching) with various other scriptures (noted below) in order to ‘prove’ that the earliest disciples preached house to house. Incredibly, the scriptures they reference proves just the opposite: that it is actually referring to lodgings and sustenance, not preaching.

The reason they were not to take any money or extra food or clothing with
them is because in ancient times it was customary for the household to provide these things for visitors:

Luke 10:7: “So stay in that house, eating and drinking the things they provide, for the worker is worthy of his wages. Do not be transferring from house to house.”

Numbers 18:31 And YOU must eat it in every place, YOU and YOUR household,
because it is YOUR wages in return for YOUR service in the tent of meeting.

Mark 6:8 Also, he gave them orders to carry nothing for the trip except a staff alone, no bread, no food pouch, no copper money in their girdle purses,

Luke 9:3: and he said to them: “Carry nothing for the trip, neither staff nor food pouch, nor bread nor silver money; neither have two undergarments.

(Luke 10:7) So stay in that house, eating and drinking the things they provide, for the worker is worthy of his wages. Do not be transferring from house to house.

(1 Corinthians 9:14) In this way, too, the Lord ordained for those proclaiming the good news to live by means of the good news.

Matthew Henry Bible Commentary confirms that of the above mentioned verse:
“....In strange towns and cities: when you come to a town, enquire who in it is worthy. [1.] It is supposed that there were some such in every place, as were better disposed than others to receive the gospel, and the preachers of it; though it was a time of general corruption and apostasy…........They must enquire out such; not enquire for the best inns; public houses were no proper places for them that neither
took money with them (v. 9), nor expected to receive any (v. 8); but they must look out for accommodations in private houses, with those that would entertain them well, and expect no other recompense for it but a prophet’s reward, an apostle’s reward, their praying and preaching….In the house of those they found worthy, they must continue; which intimates that they were to make so short a stay at each town, that they needed not change their lodging, but whatever house providence brought
them to at first, there they must continue till they left that town.”

So basically, the Watchtower has combined two distinct practices (preaching and finding lodgings) into one so that it appears that this scripture supports the idea that first century Christians preached from “house to house”.

As I said at the beginning, if someone wants to preach to others going door to door, there’s nothing wrong with it (other than it annoying people), but it is not a method that either Jesus or his disciples used.