Now that the storm of ludicrous misinformation about the Confession app has all but died down, I’d like to draw your attention to another app that will be useful to many Catholics—and it was developed by a Baptist.
It’s an NFP charting app for iPad and iPhone. There are several NFP apps available, mostly for the sympto-thermal method. They carry the warning: “for recreational purposes only,” which makes me giggle. “Recreational?” I hate, dread, and stink at keeping charts. No, that’s not God’s way of telling me that NFP is inherently sinful, or that I should just go ahead and have 11 more babies. It’s just that I and my household are utterly, tragically unsuited for handling routine paperwork.
While I am grateful for the scientific and theological labor that went into developing modern NFP (I use Creighton), asking me to stick little stickers on a paper chart at the end of the day, every day, is like asking me to take up base jumping: sounds lovely, but I’m just not that kind of girl.
So when I spotted this app, I was delighted to see that it’s extremely similar to my Creighton chart. It’s designed for the Billings Ovulation Method, which tracks a woman’s cervical fluid to establish times of fertility. (NB: I’m using a Billings app for a Creighton method of charting, and have gone off the grid with my teacher. I don’t endorse or recommend this behavior! For more information about Creighton, which is about more than achieving or avoiding pregnancy, see their website to get the whole scoop.)
I didn’t get paid to endorse this app—just thought it’s an interesting and helpful development, one of the bright spots in the technological revolution.
Here’s a screen shot:
I’ve used it for a few months, and this is what I especially like:
-It’s tidy. No coffee stains, rips or orange crayon—just the facts marching all crisp and square across the screen. One aspect of my life under control: Bliss!
-It achieves the golden standard of NFP charting: It gets my husband involved (because it’s his iPod!). I think the digital format would make NFP more appealing, or at least more accessible, to many men.
-The info can’t get lost. Even if my husband’s iPod gets broken or stolen, my records are stored online.
-It’s not idiot-proof, but close. I make observations every day, but only record them every three days or so. The pre-set calendar makes my mistakes obvious and easy to fix.
This app allows Billings users to share charts directly with their teachers. I wish the Creighton folks would get back to this app’s designer about developing a Creighton app, because while I can use this app for my own purposes, I can’t share charts with my practitioner.
The app is not designed to replace contact with an instructor, but to facilitate it, especially since many NFP users work with teachers long-distance. As the developer, Lawson Culvert, explains,
I could write in functionality that attempted to help a woman with making decisions about the chart, but I didn’t want my app to become a replacement for proper training from a Billings certified teacher. Also, whenever I try to tell them what to do, I’m opening myself up to a lawsuit should an unintended pregnancy occur. As a result, I decided early on that the goal of [the website which preceded the app] NFPCharting.com would be simply to allow online charting that could be easily shared with a teacher.
He expects to add a Spanish language option and a printing function soon.
Culvert practices NFP with his wife, and teaches Billings from his home. I asked him about his faith, and he said:
I’m actually a Baptist. Baptist churches in my area have tended to totally ignore the issue of fertility. They see such discussions as only between the woman and her doctor (which tends to push people towards the Pill.) My wife and I found out exactly how the Pill works (its abortifacient capacity, specifically) and decided before we were ever married that it would be morally unacceptable to use that form of birth control. Thankfully, we stumbled upon the NFP Center at our local Catholic diocese.
My boss and several of my co-workers are Catholic, and they joke that with me teaching NFP, I’m more ‘Catholic’ than they are.
Culvert has chosen to teach NFP in his home, rather than through the diocese, because it gives him the opportunity to spread the Gospel to non-Christians and others who “wouldn’t necessarily set foot inside a Catholic church.”
I am thrilled to see practical and user-friendly technology put in service of such a good cause. Catholic and high-tech don’t often mesh so nicely. Let’s hope this app is the first of many innovations to make the Faith more accessible to the modern world.
Comments
Post a Comment
Time to buy an IPod! I’ve been doing Billings charting on-line with my teacher and this new app would possibly stop me from waiting weeks at a time to update. Thanks for the news!
We tried NFP for two weeks and had a baby anyway, so I’m suing Dr. Billings and my husband is getting castrated. Catholics are so lame!
I totally agree about its help in getting the man involved. My dh has always been ‘keeper of the charts’ but is over the moon that he can use his IPod (we’ve been using our app for over a year) . Makes it more tech-y, more cool and much, much easier.
Thanks! My husband and I are terrible at charting and we were looking at possibility of having one baby after the next. These little tid bits make a huge difference in our lives. Thank you again.
I hear many comments like that made earlier: “We tried NFP for two weeks and had a baby anyway”. As someone who does statistical analysis from time to time, I can tell you that NFP is a data-driven process and need to be treated that way. Two weeks is not good data, whether you’re talking about user trials of a website, trainees in a class, or a couple using NFP. You need to collect lots of data, until you can be sure you’re collecting it correctly and that the data is (or isn’t) bearing out the results you expect. *Then* you put it into use.
How can you tell you’ve been charting the cycle properly unless you’ve completed at least one full cycle?
My wife and I abstained for several months until her geeky husband was satisfied we’d over-collected good data. (And we had a lovely time cuddling, reading, going out to dinner, and otherwise romancing each other… all while her geeky-yet-romantic husband lulled her to sleep with statistics lectures about the chart.)
Since then, we’ve not had a child when we weren’t prepared, and we’ve had one beautiful baby at the time we were ready. That time, we just stopped following the chart and enjoyed that.. process. :) This time, we’re *using* the chart to help conceive, which is even better.
I do all my Creighton charting on a spreadsheet. Stickers were so messy! I’d like to use an app or even an online app, but I’m holding out for CrM to come out with one of their own. Oh, and I’m pregnant now (because I wanted to be), so I’m in no hurry. :)
If you have an Android phone or tablet, check out OvuView in the Google apps store. It is very good and does all the same things as this, except for the online backup and sharing. That can be done manually by saving the data to an SD card and/or copying to a PC. The data can also be emailed.
It uses multiple rules, inlcuding 21/20 Day, First 4/5/6 Day; Doring; Billings; Rotzer; Konald/Kippley; Standard days; Calendar Rhythm. Which rules are in use depend upon what data you enter (i.e., if you don’t put in anything but start and end dates for cycles, it can only use day based methods like rhythm or standard days). The more data entered, obviously the more accurate it will be.
Tried a number of other apps simultaneously for a few weeks, but slowly dropped the others due to ease of use, clarity, methods available and charting.
http://www.sleekbit.com/ovuview/
Wow. Tell me again why this is OK and condoms aren’t?
Hey Raymond- It’s the difference between separating the act (as condoms do) and abstaining when you have just reason. Yes the end result is the same, but one act is disordered (condoms, separating the marriage act) and the other is not.
To Raymond - NFP is “okay” because it does nothing to interfere with the marriage act.
In NFP, you are just using your body’s natural God-given cycles of fertility and infertility. There is nothing wrong with having sex when you’re infertile, and there’s nothing wrong with abstaining when you’re infertile.
Condoms and other forms of artificial birth control are interfering with the bodies natural actions.
I meant to say “abstaining when you’re FERTILE” - sorry!
A memorable way of explaining what’s wrong with condoms or other unnatural means of family planning is this, from an African priest: it’s like chewing and swallowing your food and then vomiting it up to make room for more, the way the ancient Romans used to do at banquets.
Okay, so how many comments are going to come *verbatim* from Simcha’s blog? Seriously, guys, not everyone here is going to be in on the joke.
Although, to be honest, Simcha’s blog is one of the coolest blogs on the whole net. If you don’t read it, you should. Now. And then you’d also be in on the joke comments by people cutting and pasting Simcha’s comment predictions.
I’m not doing this to spoil anyone’s fun. I just don’t want to be the only giggling about this today.
Ew, you said cervix.
would an ‘app’ like this be available on a website- I don’t have a smart phone
Priest’s wife, here is the “traditional” version of this app:
http://www.nfpcharting.com/
I used fertilityfriend.com, it was great
Dear JB,
” catholics are so lame”? Humm, I guess the first Christians facing their demise at the hands of ” worldly” Neros must have been as lame ?? Maybe it is the spiritual death of Christians ( including those who marry) who belong to separated congregations ( those that have rejected the one, holy, apostolic and universal Church that Christ founded) which the Catholic church is trying to reach , by teaching the opposite sexes to respect the human person reflected in a body that God created. You included.
What does the “I” mean in the picture of the app? ;)
I could tell you, Jared, but then I’d have to kill you.
For the sympto-thermal folks, there is also a Taking Charge of Your Fertility based web charting program at http://www.tcoyf.com
Instead of an “I” you have a choice of using either a heart icon or a (disturbingly salacious) winking smiley faced emoticon for, er, days on which “I” occurs.
I like Ovuview too. https://market.android.com/details?id=com.sleekbit.ovuview&feature=search_result
Beautiful design,more detailed than others, easy to use.
My husband and I love the Creighton Model and we are fortunate here in Austin to have the Vitae Clinic where a pro-life doctor practices gynecology and his wife teachings NFP.
I have been charting on my iPhone for two years. Boys like their toys and charts are fun.
I’ve been using this app for several months (with a baby break in the middle) and love it. I’m also a CrM user. Surely they’ll get on board? Charts and stickers are in my past!
Even to use NFP you have to have a grave reason. You will find that most NFP proponents have the same excuses as condom users. Thank you theology of the body.
Traditional Troubleshooter:
You’ve read and understood all the transcripts of the Pope’s TOB talks, and you’ve heard the private confessions of everyone you know who’s using NFP, have you? That is the only way you’d be qualified to make the statement you just made.
Has it ever occurred to you that people might not want to reveal the intimate circumstances of their lives to you? What you judge as a inadequate “excuse” may be a very serious reason indeed, but simply none of your business. I know someone who said she just wanted to lose those last few pounds of baby weight. Turned out, years later, her husband was having an affair—and THAT’S why she was putting off having another baby. Unless you are someone’s confessor, you’re doing damage to your own soul by implying that other people are in serious sin.
A tiny fraction of Catholics go against the grain and actually practice NFP. It always astonishes and, frankly, disgusts me that fellow Catholics spend their time parsing the private souls of this tiny fraction, instead of supporting them and praying for them.
Please know I say this with all due respect and understanding for your friend who was obviously going through an extraordinarily difficult time and probably didn’t know what to say in the circumstance she found herself. However, if people are lying and giving reasons such as she gave for using NFP to cover up real serious reasons, they are causing harm and giving scandal—nevermind fodder to “NFP is evil” naysayers. Clearly, it would be better to say nothing at all and for others not to expect anyone to discuss their personal decision/reasons to learn or use NFP. Keep your eyes on your own work, people.
That said, I think there can and should be objective discussion (not personal judgement)as to what constitutes serious reason and why there needs to be serious reason. I do think it is easy for many of us to get confused about why and what is serious when we are surrounded by a contraceptive culture that tells us to be sure of our own happiness above all else, because this will make us better people and better parents. I think there are many young, sincere, good-hearted Catholics who buy into secular reasoning in lots of areas of their lives. If people whom they respect and look up to are proffering less than serious reasons for NFP use, they may be encouraged to go and decide likewise.
You know what, I don’t think she was lying, though. I think she knew there was something horribly wrong in her marriage, and didn’t yet know what - so she was attacking the only problem she could solve, which was her own very minor weight problem. The point is that these issues—the decision whether or not to conceive—are incredibly complicated and incredibly private. My point was that, even when it seems obvious to an outsider than someone else is being trivial, there is often more to the story.
//
I do agree with you that Catholics ought to have a different mindset from the typical, secular reasoning, when addressing family planning. However, some people (I don’t say you - don’t want to put words into your mouth!) have called for an actual official list: THIS is a good enough reason to avoid pregnancy, THESE are not good enough reasons.
//
I can think of many reasons why such a list would be a terrible idea. One is that a huge, deal-breaking reason for me might be a sinfully trivial reason for you. And a trivial reason for me at age 25 might gradually become a huge reason for me at age 35. I fully agree that there should be more discussion over the kind of thinking that should go into this; but I believe there is a reason why the Church has not been more specific.
//
I know what you mean about young, good-hearted Catholics being led astray by too much wiggle room in our thinking. On the other hand, what effect would it have on young, good-hearted Catholics who are presented with what appears to be an unachievable example? If they are just married, just starting out, well-meaning but immature (and all young people are immature, no matter how good their religious formation), then showing them the example of a mature, experienced couple may very well be nothing but discouraging and counter-productive.
//
I’m not saying we should shy away from what the Chruch teaches, by any means; I’m just saying that, especially when sex is involved, HOW you teach it is fully as important as WHAT you teach.
I also meant to say that I believe that the use of NFP tends, in my experience and observation, to have a cumulative effect over time, and changes your attitude little by little. This is another reason why I believe it’s a mistake to tell young couples, “You must leap into a radical trust of God, and be incredibly strict with yourself when judging your reasons for postponing pregnancy.” Expecting young couples to comport themselves in the same way as couples who’ve been married for decades just isn’t appropriate.
//
I don’t say that young couples should be allowed to get away with mortal sin! I’m just saying that young couples should be given time to grow into an understanding of their sexuality, because that leads to a deeper understanding than they might achieve by being overly-zealous while trying to imitate more experienced couples.
//
In other words, if you are in a position to influence another married couple, the most helpful thing you can do is to be very charitable toward them, and to trust that God will do the work that HE thinks He needs to do on their souls. Which may be entirely different from the work that needs to be done on YOUR soul.
But why can’t we at least TALK about what might be GOOD reasons to use NFP that aren’t extreme - like, the mom might die if she has another baby, the husband is having an affair, etc? Here’s what I liken it too, when I was a teenager and everybody talked about chastity, I didn’t REALLY know what that mean. I didn’t know that chastity meant “avoiding sexual stimulation”. Seriously, I thought it meant, “don’t have sex” and I think I would have agreed that you shouldn’t do anything that will make it really really hard to avoid sex. Without any boundaries, everyone sort of 1. wonders if their reason is ‘good enough’ or 2. rigidly justifies their reasons because no one can tell me I’m doing wrong or 3. is truly self-aware and holy enough to know that the major decisions they make in life are in keeping with God’s Holy Will which seems like a giant tome kept in heaven. I bet a lot of people at least struggle with #1 before jumping to #2 and I guess there could also be a #4 which is “seems like the best solution yet, look at the evidence of good” which only comes from, “lets see how this works” which means they went through #1. So, I’m back to everyone being in #1 at least for a while.
Surely there are at least guidelines beyond “don’t be selfish” “don’t desire wanting a second car” “being tired is no excuse”, etc.
Granted, I don’t foresee a need for NFP in my life, but that doesn’t mean that there won’t ever be one.
Well, with chastity, it’s fairly easy to say, “Don’t chase after stimulation unless you intend to follow through.” While there are nuances for different personalities in different states of life, it’s reasonable to say that you can make that objective rule. Someone should certainly have taught you that when you were younger!
//
It seems to me that anyone who takes it seriously enough to wonder and pray about it with their spouse is already 90% of the way to making the decision that God wants.
//
But here’s the problem: I think you are thinking of God’s Will as being the One Right Decision, and everything else is The Wrong Decision. But God’s Will can encompass several different choices, including having a baby or not having a baby. God’s will for you might also encompass things like, “Becoming closer to your husband while agonizing over what God wants” or “Learning to stop taking yourself so seriously” or “Realizing that we are not so much in control as we think we are” or “realizing that other people aren’t just being selfish when they say they’re too tired for another baby right now.” These are things that God also wants of us, and could be achieved in a number of different way. It’s not always a simple matter of “baby vs. no baby.” The decision to have or not have a baby right now is all bound up in all kinds of other issues; so that’s one reason why it just wouldn’t work to have a list of reasons somewhere.
Simcha’s Husband, ;)
“God’s Will can encompass several different choices, including having a baby or not having a baby.”
//
I absolutely agree with this, because I don’t think it is ever “wrong” not to use NFP. Although, I had an excellent moral theology prof at university who would probably disagree. He once said that a mother may have a moral obligation to preserve her life and health for the sake of her born children and husband. I can see that, too.
//
And, I do agree that it would be difficult/impossible to come up with a hard, fast list of just reasons. At the same time, I think the ambiguity is difficult not only for those who are falling into the mentality of “the world,” but also those who struggle with scrupulosity. Many of us desperately want to be right with God but are hard on ourselves, always feeling that we’re falling short—and, sometimes, we are. But when!? But when?!
//
I do suspect ambiguity is exactly what contributes to the very polarized views on the subject of NFP and why there are such ill feelings on both sides. And, then what happens when spouses are split? I suppose one could say “follow one’s husband”—but what about when the husband thinks “life or death” issues only and the wife has truly serious reasons that are not technically “life or death”—say depression?
//
Although, maybe that’s just what we live and struggle with as Catholics—not every decision is spelled out clearly for us in black and white, and God sees the heart. There is liberty and room for reasonable/faithful minds to disagree and legitimately come to different conclusions. At the same time, we do have an obligation before God with regard to openness to life that ain’t trite. Like the commenter above, I can’t help but feel that it would be helpful to folks (myself included!) to have general discussions, not personal ones using individual examples from life, regarding some examples of reasons that in themselves ought not be considered “serious.” It’s a pipe dream - it’s not going to happen, but sometimes I think it would just be nice to be able to have the discussion without freaking people out.
Simcha, I love (and I mean L-O-V-E) this! We also use Creighton and I’m stinking tired of getting scolded for not charting at the end of the day everyday. I struggle for the similar reasons as you point out. Maybe the folks at Pope Paul VI Institute have read this; just in case they haven’t, I’m going to point them in this direction!
I just wanted to let you know that Creighton is developing an application so we can chart digitally. I don’t know if it will be an iPhone app or not. I do know they have been working with a developer. From the little bit I saw it seems similar to the app you describe above. You might ask your Practitioner to keep you posted for when the Creighton app is available. =)
I wish they had one for Creighton. While Billings is similar, I don’t want to get it messed up in my mind and ruin what I already know (and haven’t been using for a while since I just had a baby five months ago, so I’m a little rusty!) Please let us know if one ever becomes available.
Regarding that “list” of grave reasons to use NFP, I certainly agree that it should not exist. This is one of those situations in which your conscience should be your guide; meaning, a WELL-FORMED Catholic conscience. I do think many young couples (and old couples?), however subconsciously, buy into the contraceptive mentality of our current society and use NFP like their friends use the Pill: for arbitrary reasons. And yes, there are arbitrary reasons. Granted, the simple fact of using NFP often leads a couple to mature in their reasoning since they have to revisit the question every month. And like you mentioned, the “reason” is often all-encompassing, not simply baby vs. no baby.
But I can’t tell you how many couples I know who use NFP roll their eyes and say scornfully, “Ugh, I’m not having another one for a while!” or “I don’t want another one yet!” This makes me sad, and has unfortunately turned me off a little to the idea of using NFP to avoid conceiving. It seems to be the completely wrong mentality! The Catholic Church teaches that children are a blessing from God! Sure, it can be difficult, but so what? That’s part of growing in virtue and becoming a Saint. Shouldn’t we do our best to be witnesses to the world, a world of Mirena commercials where children are a terrible nuisance? How about, “We’d welcome another baby if God saw fit to bless us with one,” and leave the I’m-not-having-another-one-for-whatever-“grave”-reason to being between you, your husband, and God?
As an NFP-er who “doesn’t want another one for a while… or ever, maybe?” I understand how a statement like that could make you sad. And it even sounds sad to me. But at this point, I’m not talking about an ACTUAL baby that exists yet. I’m talking about the idea of a newborn that is going to keep me up all night and need changing and feeding and all the stuff that goes with starting ALL over again!
That being said, I’m a chronic pregnancy-test-taker. And every time I take a test, while waiting for the result to pop up, I’m thinking of baby names and mentally simulating this phantom “new baby” into our family already. Do I want another baby? No. What will happen if we have another baby? I will love that baby to pieces and be overjoyed that God has blessed us, and not be able to imagine our lives without this wonderful new baby.
That’s the reality.
Thanks for posting this! The NFP apps are going to revolutionize the use of NFP and bring it to many more people. Just so you know, the Creighton model is in the process of developing an app for the iphone/ipod, so you’ll be able to go back to using the Creighton method you were trained in and place those 10KL’s where they belong! Take care!
For contraception I’d rather go for a symto-thermal method that integrates temperature measurements, as they are more safe (lower pearl-index) and able to estimate a shorter fertility window. There are a number of apps such as Lilly for i-phone or Lady Cycle for android phones.
Hello Everyone,
We created a fertility management software called FertileView in 2003. Some dioceses LA, Others… use it for marriage prep. Here is more information:
Novuscor Company Overview
Novuscor is a software company specializing in fertility management and reproductive health. Our company is devoted to research and application development for the FertileView program. Novuscor was established to support fertility management including infertility and the process to both achieve and avoid pregnancy. FertileView is a tested and supported program that was created for doctors to provide to patients as an interactive healthcare process.
FertileView is a Biomedical Informatics software program for fertility management. The program application tool allows the patient to chart their fertility signs while the FertileView program interprets the information. This comprehensive software program is designed to be used by the patient to provide specific cycle details that include ovulation. The program data or informatics process shapes the boundaries of the client’s fertility defining that optimal time to achieve pregnancy and when to avoid pregnancy.
One of the many benefits of the FertileView program is to make available to clients a program process that will help support them directly. Whether couples are avoiding pregnancy or struggling with fertility issues to achieve pregnancy; couples can work through the process together. The FertileView program restores the couple’s ability to be proactive in the process. FertileView is empowering software that supports natural fertility management and your fertility goals.
Client benefits-
• Proactive Healthcare Process
• All Natural with No Side Effects
• Doctor Supported
• Interpretive Software
• Individual Cycle Education
• Fertility Goal Setting
• Personal Fertility Metrics
• Cycle History and Storage
• Information Management
• Patient Data Delivery Process
OB-GYN’s utilize FertileView to support their patients and their practice. Novuscor is establishing OB-GYN partnerships to better serve the OB-GYN community by providing integrated patient programs. This includes the FertileView fertility management software. The program offers doctors with superior practice continuity that includes better patient relationships while providing best of care.
The Novuscor business program is based on both an Integrated Healthcare and Proactive Healthcare approaches. From the medical applications perspective to the clinical support software, Novuscor is providing a program tool that connects the patient to their fertility and to the doctor’s support process. This mutual process is based on the patient’s fertility goals. If the patient would like to achieve pregnancy the doctor would prescribe the FertileView program to better support them. The patient process funnels into several categories including: achieving pregnancy, infertility, minor fertility issues and avoiding pregnancy. These categories are designed for the OB-GYN to better support their patient and offer a new level of service.
To Contact us go to Novuscor dot com… we will provide FertileView at our doctors program rate.
Peace,
Tim
Yea, turn your wife into a barnyard animal.
Thus Spake The Peanut Gallery.
NFP and fertility monitoring are great things and there is a lot of low and mid-hanging fruit to be produced with this. It is “the way” to go regarding “family planning” because it is not just “birth control” but planning to remain a family, even if unconsciously.
However it is done be a man and a woman, fallible people.
Let’s not let the perfect become the enemy of the good. Some scattered barrier contraception and/or kinkyness are in store for most NFPers, especially the 20-somethings.
No major guilt trips needed.
Thank you thank you thank you for this app. The old way of charting with stickers was such a pain, and I quit doing it. However, am on a new regimen from the dr. And charting is essential. Now it’s so easy! Thanks so much, it’s really made a difference in my health. God bless, Kim
when will they come out for Android phones??
Another computer application is FertileView…. It is completely interpretive and is able to support women in serious circumstances… I think you can get it off the pauline nun book store. It isn’t inexpensive, but it works great and you will never have to use paper or take pictures of your charts again. Scroll down to the bottom of the page…
http://store.pauline.org/English/Books/tabid/126/CategoryID/654/List/0/Level/a/Default.aspx?SortField=ProductName,ProductName
I called Creighton a month or two ago, and it seems like there’s an app in the works, although I didn’t get more details other than it’s a couple months out.
I made a survey to see who’s interested in a Creighton app, and I’m going to pass it on to Creighton with a real petition for them to develop this sooner rather than later.
Please take the survey, even if you’re not a Creighton person! Thanks so much!
http://www.nfpworksblog.com/2012/08/01/survey-who-wants-a-creighton-app/
Also as a side note (from a former diocesan coordinator), I’m a little confused about this paragraph:
“Culvert has chosen to teach NFP in his home, rather than through the diocese, because it gives him the opportunity to spread the Gospel to non-Christians and others who “wouldn’t necessarily set foot inside a Catholic church.”
So, is Culvert a certified BOM instructor who happens to be non-Catholic and teaches out of his home? If he is a certified instructor teaching a Catholic method, he still needs to connect with his diocese or the USCCB about it. This isn’t to be overly bureaucratic, but rather to provide support and oversight on a very delicate issue—family planning. As an NFP coordinator, I have come across many people disillusioned with NFP and/ or the Church for various issues, but sometime it goes back to the instructor, who, as it often turns out, wasn’t certified or supervised.
I think the Culverts, if they are certified BOM instructors, should be able to teach out of their homes for pastoral reasons, but they should really make all the right connections with a supervisor and the diocese. And if they aren’t certified instructors….well, they should make that happen. It’s really to their advantage.
Why would you petition for a program when there is one already out there? From what I understand the FertileView program is inclusive and has made natural fertility management easy for anybody. Any doctor can utilizee the program because it was built for the medical industry. Further the program has Bishops support and is supporting many couples, especially those struggling with infertility.
Post a Comment
By submitting this form, you give The National Catholic Register permission to publish this comment. Comments will be published at our discretion, and may be edited for clarity and length. For best formatting, please limit your response to one paragraph and don't hit "enter" to force line breaks.