I am sorry that my response is so long, but you touched on many subjects and I also have problems with being concise.
Pam,I completely agree with you about putting much more monies into the uses that you mentioned,but right now Gaddafi is slaughtering so not realistic. Hey, did you know that Obama has actually encouraged more funding for those things that you mentioned? The problem is, not as much as is needed and most people argue can’t take funding away from the things we use for war since the world is not a nice place so the US has to keep its military super funded. Maybe one day the US will get a super, super Christian as president and somehow reverse that. One can dream of utopia, no? You see, Pam, we do agree on some very important things. Now back again with trying to further clarify the topic. No Pam, Obama has nothing to do with what I am talking about. Again, I am not talking about Obama. Again, I am talking about what is the Christian thing to do in any such situations so it doesn’t matter who is the president of the US. The reason I even opened up the link to this site was because of the word, “humanitarian”, and I ended up finding an article that was just mainly focused on bashing Obama and not even really talking about the subject matter. Dirty trick, like I’ve been saying. Again, don’t trust people who do that. Don’t trust their words. Again, fine to bash him, but don’t use such dirty tricks. Shameful. Again, unChristian in my view.
Since you mentioned the topic, feel I need to address the following. In some way, agree with you that President Obama escalated the bloodshed, but not in the way you think. Pam, he was dragged into this thing with Libya. He’s not an idiot. He understands that the US’s plate is full with Iraq and Afghanistan. He understands things are not going well there. He understands that Muslim countries don’t look highly on the US interceding in another Muslim country. He understands that the country is deathly afraid of the US getting mired into another country againnnnnnnnn. He understands the country is broke. Finally capitulated when it became obvious it possibly wasn’t going to happen if the US didn’t agree to become involved. He understood not intervening would have meant the US is not just fiscally bankrupt, but also morally. The problem was, while he was dickering, more Libyans were getting slaughtered so that’s why I said I agreed with you. Gaddafi’s forces were actually back in Benghazi and then finally President Obama agreed to offer assistance. I distinctly remember that because thought it could possibly be too late and was very saddened by the way the US was acting. I grew to understand that he was trying and still is trying to balance many things when it comes to Libya, all those things that I mentioned before, with Christian ideals. He seems to be trying very hard to get the rest of the world, rightly so, to take more of the responsibility for such things therefore from the beginning said the US was only going to be in the lead for a limited amount of time and limit the US’s involvement via NATO. You know what happened next? NATO couldn’t handle it and things deteriorated in Libya(more slaughter). So, all this delaying and dickering may have caused more Libyans to be slaughtered and at the end possibly for nothing since NATO and the countries involved still seem to be dickering. President Obama finally orderd two drones to Libya. Not as many as could have been sent since he still seems to be trying to get other countries to take proper responsibility and not expect the US to do most of the heavy lifting. Now back to more dickering for another few weeks. Then they’ll try something else and if that doesn’t work, more dickering and on and on. All that dickering while people are being slaughtered. Need to stop the dickering and just do what needs to be done. Gaddafi doesn’t stop slaughtering while they are dickering. The more dickering, the more time that madman has to figure a way to stay in power. His newest way is by saying he was going to get the Libyan tribes involved. He rather see a true civil war instead of just simply stepping down. Would think if he really loved his people, his country, and if he really loved God as he says, he would step down instead of continuing to slaughter them, no? So, we are back to my original quest. The reason I came to this site. As a Christian, what would God want us to do? Yes, there is prayer as you said and talking to Gaddafi as you said. Then I said, prayer isn’t working and they have talked and talked and talked to Gaddafi and it isn’t working. So, what would plan “C” be as a Christian? There has to be a plan “C” otherwise more slaughter.
Pam, you very much misunderstood somehow. I may have left a church, but that for sure does not mean I left God. I would never do such an awful thing. God is not in a building or an institution, he is within us as you know. If I walk away from God, I would end up being a walking dead.
I would certainly not fall into the “troll” category. I am not/was not trying to provoke emotional responses, nor disrupt “normal” on-line discussion on this site. I have actually tried to be very on topic by discussing Christianity and what that means when it comes to the US’s involvement in Libya. I am sorry that you feel otherwise. Being very sincere about that. Same as with everything I have posted. Since you feel as you do, I will say my good-bye and you can continue as you were. Very disappointed since strongly believe that open, sincere and respectful communication is sorely needed in this world. No wonder we have wars and wars and wars. ED, if you’re reading this, remember when I first posted and said, “I’m in for it now”, and you said, “no”. What do you think now?
BTW,Pam, President Obama has his term like any other president. If one feels differently, one has options that are lawful. Start impeachment procedures.
Lastly, don’t be silly, I don’t believe everything I read/see on the news/internet. FYI, I don’t watch Fox, gravitate more towards The Christian Science Monitor type of news outlets. I’ll actually read almost anything. Believe one should read almost anything since it broadens one’s mind. My mind will continue to be broadened as long as I live, Inshallah.