I have never donated to Komen.  Very little of the money they raise goes to research.  Most goes to “education” - whatever that means.  And the salaries of the top people are off the charts.  It’s nothing but a big pink marketing scheme.

I don’t have a lot of money; I can’t afford a shadow of a doubt.  When people say they didn’t cave, I say, they already did—they had nothing to apologize for, and yet they backed down.  I’m not so much angry as incredibly disappointed.

I’ve also heard that anything “pink” even if it doesn’t specifically say “SGK” IS for them.  I do not purchase Yoplait, Pepsi, Doritoes, or anything else that Pepsi sells.  When I’m at a restaurant, I ask if they have Coke products and if they don’t I have water.  I was suspicious when this story first came out anyway, and so I’m happy I didn’t give to them, and I will never walk in the Three-Day EVER again!  We need to elect new leadership in this country; that is a given, or God knows what will happen to us next.

If you are a Catholic you should be a pro-lifer in fact if you are Catholic you ARE A PRO-LIFER. If not then you are not Catholic. People who support these organizations are members of the Culture of Death. By support I mean financially or mentally. Life is the most important thing in this world that God has created. Stand up for life instead of laying down for death….

SGK is trying to be all things to all people.  You LOVE PP—give to us because PP is eligible to apply for SGK grants.  You HATE PP—give to us because we aren’t committing to actually giving PP anything.  PP doesn’t do mammograms.  I expect in the next year to see a big story about SGK donating all kinds of money to PP so it can buy mammogram machines because PP will explain to them the need for them to “reaffirm” their commitment to them.

Komen’s issue was never a pro-life one.  If you read all the comments they made, it was because they felt irresponsible in giving money to organizations under investigation.  They have always been for the liberal ‘feminist’ agenda.  I could see us rallying to support them had they ever even hinted that it was an issue of them finally coming around and seeing the evils of abortion.  They never did.  I could maybe justify some support had they come out and said that there is such an obvious link - scientifically proven - between abortion and breast cancer,  They haven’t.  Bottom line - nothing has changed.  It really is sad, but then, maybe that will serve us as a lesson to not get so super excited so quickly next time.  Who knows how much money Komen was donated for this, and Planned Parenthood brought in over $3 million in 4 days…  Change is hard, yes, but if it walks like a duck and talks like a duck…....

Jay Everett ~ yes!

My husband and I are converts (Assembly of God pastor, even) and I’ve said for years that people who are “Nancy Pelosi Catholics” are like people who say they’re Celtics fans but wear Lakers gear.  Fooling noone.  Confusing some.

Just go to another church already ; I don’t get it.

I wonder if deep down, people like that know it’s the Real Church and are nervous enough to remain ...

Unfortunately, we gave to Komen right away when they said they would no longer fund PP as a thank you to them.  They apparently raised a lot of money.  But that is the last they will ever see from me.

Komen are wimps.  Like the libral adjenda, it’s hypocritical.  Komen helps to save the lives of women with cancer, yet funds an organization that helps women kill their ouwn babies.

What a world!

I have a family member who is a breast cancer survivor.  She has been extremely active in the “Race for the Cure” ever since and runs in the local race almost every year.  I’ve never felt comfortable supporting the SGK foundation because of their ties to PP and because I just don’t think they’re all that interested in research and breast cancer prevention.  Their failure to acknowledge the hard facts—that their is a direct link between hormonal contraception and breast cancer—has always prevented me from supporting their organization in any way.  Instead, I’d rather give $$$ to St. Jude Children’s Hospital or possibly even Fred Hutchison Cancer Research Hospital—at least Fred Hutch was willing to publish a study that did, in fact, show a link between contraception, abortion, and breast cancer.
http://cebp.aacrjournals.org/content/18/4/1157.abstract

I remember at one time reading about another organization similiar to SGK with no connections to PP.  What’s that organization’s name again so others can donate?

Thank you Mr. Archbold. Your article expresses my exact feelings. I never gave to Komen before and I certainly will not now!

I saw a post on another article where the person said we should be showing God to others.  Allison, instead of casting these “Nancy Pelosi Catholics” aside and wanting them to go to another church already, I believe we should be trying to help them understand the Church’s teachings and be good examples to them.  If we can’t explain the Church’s teachings well, we can certainly refer them to people who can.  Just because a person struggles with something, whether it be abortion or any other issue, I don’t believe we should be writing people off so quickly.  It seems to me that those who struggle need our prayers the most.

The number of vague statements about there being many other places (other than Planned Parenthood) where poor women can obtain health care has nagged at me since last week.  Not being a poor woman, I have never had to think about this.  I did check into free or low cost health care in my area and found that there are places to go, although I’m not sure of all the services offered or quality of the care.  From what I read, many of these places receive some federal funding.  I guess the point I am making here is I do believe in the sanctity of all life, the unborn and the living.  I wanted to research for myself that women who are here have access to health care, regardless if PP exists or not.

Komen kept more than 80% of all donations for itself. Komen was little more than a Right Wing money scam, ripping off donors across the political spectrum. Good riddance!

I have given 10’s of thousands of dollars to companies that pay directly for abortion, abortifacent contraceptives, sterilizations, invitro fertilization and possible more practices that are against the teachings of the Catholic Church.  The CEO of these companies usually makes between 10-20 million dollars a year which dwarfs the 1 million the CEO of planned parenthood makes.  Most of the Catholics I know have done the same.  It is called health insurance. 

Here we are hysterical over this planned parenthood/Komen fiasco yet we have this in our back pockets.  Irresponsible of me to donate 10 bucks to Komen? Now I actually would not donate to Komen for many reasons-one being so little of the donation actually goes to research.  Still I’ve seen moms vilified for letting their daughters participate in girls scouts as if they are directly funding abortion with their dues (which is possibly $15)or even worse by buying a box of girl scout cookies. Yet it is somehow acceptable for us to fund the companies that together pay for the most abortions in the US: commercial health insurance.

Now we have heard it said that just because something is difficult doesn’t mean we should not stand up for the truth.  The way to heaven is narrow.  Yet, we have not banded together on this to find an alternative way for us to have health insurance? But here we are going on and on about Komen and their $700,000?  Perhaps I have missed something here?  Can you offer me some understanding?

Yeah, I’m not impressed by Komen’s flip-flops, of either kind.  I recently posted a reflection titled Thinking Pink? Think Again! on my blog because this back and forth with Planned Parenthood and their dubious past (and present) is sign enough they don’t warrant my support.

I stopped many years ago giving to Nationwide organizations. We have little grassroots groups in our area that support people right here. Think about it, you can physically check on these groups to see what they are doing because it is in your own back-yard. PLUS, you can actually give your time if you are unable to give money. I send money locally to Churches that need money to keep programs alive.( I am Catholic but there is a Lutheran school who is offering programs FREE to anyone who wants there children taught in a Christian atmosphere.) I, now, get involved with my own parish, too. (I have never been a “joiner”.)PEOPLE, GET INVOLVED LOCALLY !!! God Bless America.

I have paid close to a hundred thousand dollars over the last 20 years to companies that pay directly for abortion, abortifacent contraceptives, sterilizations, invitro fertilization and possible more practices that are against the teachings of the Catholic Church.  The CEO of these companies usually makes between 10-20 million dollars a year which dwarfs the 1 million the CEO of planned parenthood makes.  Most of the Catholics I know have done the same.  It is called health insurance. 

Here we are hysterical over this planned parenthood/Komen fiasco yet we have this in our back pockets.  Irresponsible of me to donate 10 bucks to Komen? Now I actually would not donate to Komen for many reasons-one being so little of the donation actually goes to research.  Still I’ve seen moms vilified for letting their daughters participate in girls scouts as if they are directly funding abortion with their dues (which is possibly $15)or even worse by buying a box of girl scout cookies. Yet it is somehow acceptable for us to fund the companies that together pay for the most abortions in the US: commercial health insurance.

Now we have heard it said that just because something is difficult doesn’t mean we should not stand up for the truth.  The way to heaven is narrow.  Yet, we have not banded together on this to find an alternative way for us to have health insurance? But here we are going on and on about Komen and their $700,000?  Perhaps I have missed something here?  Can you offer me some understanding?

@Liz—there is nothing to explain here.  The Church is against abortion.  I think Matthew should extend this:  It is irresponsible:

1) to give money to groups who are pro-abortion
2) to vote for candidates who are pro-abortion
3) to identify yourself as a member of a political party that supports abortion.

Seriously, anybody who is Catholic and a member of the Democratic Party is living a lie.  You can only serve one Master.

Planned Parenthood’s successful ambush of Susan G. Komen for the Cure last week will “likely to go down as a textbook case of the political power of social media.” Planned Parenthood felt it had to bring Komen down.What PP did in three short days to totally annihilate Komen.Komen’s your first mistake was underestimating the enemy. Worse than that, Komen you didn’t even realize Planned Parenthood was the enemy..Will never donate AGAIN

To Tom and everyone else posting and listening here:  Does your health insurance pay for abortion? 

Do you buy from or support any of these companies which all support PP (list from lifesitenews): Adobe, AOL, Bank of America, Bayer, Chevron, Darden Restaurants (Olive Garden, Red Lobster, etc.), eBay (PayPal, etc.), Laureate Education, Midas, Nationwide (insurance), Nike, Select Comfort (Sleep Number bed), Southwest Airlines (Jet Blue, etc.), Starwood Hotels (Aloft, Element, Four Points, Le Méridien, Sheraton, St. Regis, W, Westin, etc.), Symantec, Wells Fargo, and Whole Foods.

The Boycott List includes a “Dishonorable Mention” section, which identifies nonprofits that are associated with Planned Parenthood and/or its agenda. Groups new to this section include: Comic Relief, Eagles Clubs, Elks Clubs, Elton John AIDS Foundation, and the Red Cross.

Other groups in the “Dishonorable Mention” section include: AARP, American Cancer Society, Amnesty International, Audubon Society, Boys & Girls Clubs, Camp Fire, Dr. Phil Foundation, Girl Scouts, Girls Inc., Human Rights Watch, Juvenile Diabetes Foundation, Kiwanis Clubs, Leukemia & Lymphoma Society, Lions Clubs, March of Dimes, Michael J. Fox Foundation, Muscular Dystrophy Association, Paralyzed Veterans of America, Parkinson’s Disease Foundation, Ronald McDonald House Charities, Rotary Clubs, Salvation Army, Save the Children, Sierra Club, Susan G. Komen Breast Cancer Foundation, YMCA, and YWCA.

Why are you so focused on Komen when in fact the majority of health insurance plans cover abortions?  (Unless you are fortunate enough to have a plan that does not fund abortion) Why not a peep about the YMCA or ebay or the Red Cross?

Sorry about the double post above.  Why are all my comments being flagged as possible spam or needing to be moderated?

The operative method of choice employed so efficiently by the Herodian minions of the harridan Margaret Sanger to reduce the incidence of breast cancer among women is to brutally reduce the incidents of birth of the very littlest of little girls before they have a chance to grow into women susceptible to the dread disease.  The coat-hanger-brandishing harpies of Sanger have achieved more deaths among females of the species than ever could beastly breast cancer,  even if there were no valiant sororities like Komen posing to retard its onslaught.

Tom—you are so correct—- I can add nothing. Hope Catholics keep this in mind when they vote. I am always leery of big organizations and the money spent for advertising.  I check them out on the net and see their charity rating and the salaries for those at the top. That is the best indicator as to where the money goes.

Tom - I understand that the Church is against abortion and I am also.  Perhaps I made a bad choice of words, since there is nothing to explain to me.  My issue is more general in that I have difficulty dismissing other human beings and giving up on them because they don’t believe what I do, make a mistake, or sin.  I was taken aback by the woman who made the statement that people should go to another church already, since in her judgement they are not real Catholics I guess.  I will continue to pray for those who have fallen away from the Church.

Liz, I understood exactly what you were saying and the point you wanted to make.  It was a very wise and well stated point.

@prayerful_mom—thanks for posting this list.  I will investigate.  I do think we should rethink our associations with companies that support Planned Parenthood.  If they can be avoided—we should avoid them.  That said, we should start with Susan G. Komen and Catholic Democrats like Nancy Pelosi.  We should never vote for a politician who supports abortion.

@Liz—I agree with you 100% when it comes to praying for others who are in need or falling away.  But, there is no excuse for ignoring the truth or redefining it when it is difficult to hear or accept.  The Church has been very clear on its stand on abortion.  IT is murder.  Can a murderer be forgiven…absolutely. And we should pray for them and attempt to help them see the error.  But, none of that makes it any less true that it is murder.

Instead of hopelessly “racing for the cure,” donate to the Breast Cancer Prevention Institute (BCPI) to help get the word out that there is a definite link between contraceptives, abortion, and breast cancer.  The medical research of this fine organization is well-documented, informative, and persuasive.  Google Breast Cancer Prevention Institute for a wealth of downloadable resources to spread the news:  abortion and contraceptives kill human life in more ways than one!

I was suspicious of Komen’s claim that they were ending their generous funding of Planned Parenthood from the start.  Their press releases were written in fluent Weasel, something about withdrawing funding from “organizations under investigation” blah blah.  I wish every supporter of innocent life can stop payment on their checks, dispute any debit card transfers, and reverse credit card postings to Komen - the givers were all defrauded.

RE: Carol’s post.
Yes, there are plenty of stats to show the link between abortion and breast cancer.  A visit to BCPI, www.http://bcpinstitute.org/home.htm , is well worth the time to educate yourself.  The data is logically presented.  You can make your own decision. 
It would be self-incriminating for Komen to support PPH.  But, Komen does not subscribe to the reports of BCPI.

Additional breast cancer information can be found at http://www.abortionbreastcancer.com/presentation2011/ the Coalition on Abortion/Breast Cancer site.  There are two Power Point presentations that you can view.  Hope this helps everyone to answer the own questions.

**sigh** I wish someone would have taken the time to answer my question.  I am so tired of hearing about this Komen saga.  Most Catholics do business with a health insurance company that funds abortion yet no one ever says a word about it.

Prayerful Mom:

I am glad you reposted your question since I meant to check on my health insurance to see if it covered abortions.  I just got busy and forgot.  I have Cigna.  Under the section of services they do not cover, this is one of the items: “Services, drugs, or supplies related to abortions, except when the life of the mother would be endangered if the fetus were carried to term, or when the pregnancy is the result of an act of rape or incest.”  They do cover an abortion in certain cases.  I suspect many health insurance plans do, so we are paying premiums that support these services even if we don’t use them ourselves.

@Prayerful Mom—I noted above that we should investigate all companies that we do business with and avoid whenever possible those that support abortion.  In some cases, there is no way to avoid it.  However, this does not excuse Susan G. Komen.  Nor does it justify ignoring the issue or feeling that the issue is overblown.  We should under no circumstances voluntarily support Susan Komen until it changes its policy on providing funding to Planned Parenthood.

@prayerful mom:

I think one of the reasons why so many are upset about Komen is because they just had their hopes that that organization had seen the light and was to stop giving money to PP, only to witness the merciless backlash from PP and the inevitable cowering….. Additionally, Komen is supposedly fighting against an illness that has been scientifically linked to abortion and contraceptives.  Freeing up money from PP’s budget so they can operate the portion of their business that increases a woman’s likelihood of getting the very the they want to eradicate just does not make logical sense.  Of course, most pro-lifers do the best they can to avoid giving ANY money to companies that support PP, and I am sure we may all overlook one or two mthat are subsidiary companies of bigger parent companies (e.g. Campbell’s being a subsidiary of PepsiCo.). but that does not mean that we are being hypocritical for the letdown we feel after there was some hope that a major PP partner had left them.  Perhaps I should not speak for others, but for myself, I had hopes that if Komen stopped the money flow, than maybe, just maybe, other companies/organizations would have the courage to follow the path they forged.  With them reversing their decision, it just made it even more difficult for other companies to leave once they begin that partnership….  Also, I am sure there are a great many who feel betrayed because they rushed to show their support in a financial way, and now, they realize that the money they are giving to Komen is going to help PP as well- against their will, really….. Can you not just imagine that frustration and sense of helpless, and righteous, anger?

Finally, for those who want a different alternamtive to insurance companies, I suggest checking out medical share plans.  There are some Christian ones, though not specifically Catholic ones, that I have found…  Samaritan Ministries is one such group, and they cover Nothing having to do with abortion…..

@prayerful mom & others…..Again, we must be extremely naive to think NONE of our tax dollars go to support PP. How do they separate your dollar from mine???? From the very beginning when the Supreme Court made their decision, the abortionists already had their plan in place. The progressives/abortionists have been at this more than 50 years. We finally are awakened by all these things coming into the light. Now, we must BE INFORMED AND ACT ACCORDINGLY !! As I told some Church members, we start organizations with the best intentions and someone comes along and slips in something evil. By the way, I salute EWTN and “Cardinal” Dolan and others who are drawing a line in the sand. I am and always will be against abortion in any form, including contraceptives which do not allow that little human being to attach himself to the uterine wall. Yes, contraceptives abort babies! Another truth that has come into the light. God forgive us for our ignorance.